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Originally posted by Humster
Do they have any info about the Air defensive properites of this T-95 tanks?
Its seriously lacking for modern day MBTs
Originally posted by Apollyon
81mm mortar rounds will cause sympathic detonation of era type armor once striped of the explosive armor they are easy marks.
Originally posted by Apollyon
iin combat there is always on in the pipe ....if you load wrong you can either spend the round and hope you haven't spooked/alerted the target or unload/reload, slow in auto loaders.
www.globalsecurity.org...
The Line of Sight Antitank is a dedicated antitank weapon system capable of providing a high volume of accurate fires at ranges exceeding those of current tank main guns. The LOSAT Weapon System consists of an encased missile, missile shipping and storage containers, Fire Unit, support structure, reload system, Electro-Optical System (EOS), Target Acquisition System (TAS), Fire Control System (FCS) and Pulsed Laser System (PLS). The LOSAT will be mounted on an armament carrier, HMMWV (M1113), will have a three man crew, and carry four ready to fire Kinetic Energy Missiles (KEM). The KEM, a long rod tungsten penetrator, accelerates up to 5000 feet per second and has FIVE times the kinetic energy of current tank rounds. Time of flight to maximum range is less than five seconds.
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Newer KE penetrators like the US M829A2 and now M829A3, have been improved to defeat the armor design of Kontakt-5. The M829A2 was the immediate response, developed in part to take on the new armor bricks. The M829A3 is a further improvement of this as well and designed to fight future armor protection methods.
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BGM-71F TOW 2B The TOW 2B is the newest version of the TOW missile which will provide additional capability against future armored threats, starting production as an engineering change proposal to the FY 1990 production contract. The TOW 2B Missile incorporates new fly-over, shoot-down technology. The TOW 2B entered production in late 1991.
The TOW 2B was designed to attack targets from the top. The missile's trajectory places the missile slightly above the target when its two warheads explode downward. TOW 2B features a dual-mode sensor and a new armament section equipped with two warheads substantially different from those used in other TOW versions.
Earlier TOWs are direct-attack missiles with nose-mounted warheads that fire forward. The TOW 2B is designed to fly over the top of a tank and destroy it from above, where is is less heavily armored, by simultaneously detonating the missile's two Explosively Formed Penetrator (EFP) warheads downward. The fly-over shoot-down flight profile permits the attack of targets in defilade or protected by berms or other fortifications.
TOW 2B resembles the TOW 2A, with a six-inch diameter warhead section in front, but without the standoff probe. Similarly, with only software modifications, the TOW 2B is compatible with all TOW 2 launcher platforms and equipment already in the field.
A soft launch ejects the missile from the launch tube to give a low-recoil shoulder launch. The soft launch enables firing from inside buildings or covered positions. Once the missile is clear, the larger propellant in the second stage is ignited and the missile is propelled towards the target. The weapon has two attack modes, direct or top attack.
www.army-technology.com...
The round consists of the Javelin missile and the ATK (Alliant Techsystems) Launch Tube Assembly. The range of the missile is 2,500m. Javelin is a fire-and-forget missile with lock-on before launch and automatic self-guidance. The missile is equipped with an imaging infrared seeker which is based on a cadmium mercury telluride (CdHgTe) 64 x 64 staring focal plane array in the 8 to 12 micron waveband. BAE Systems Avionics is providing the infrared seekers for the British Army's missiles. The tandem warhead is fitted with two shaped charges: a precursor warhead to initiate explosive reactive armour and a main warhead to penetrate base armour. The propulsion system is a two-stage solid propellant design which provides a minimum smoke soft launch.
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by Apollyon
81mm mortar rounds will cause sympathic detonation of era type armor once striped of the explosive armor they are easy marks.
Kontak-5 is a harder type of ERA that has an hard surface on the top to stop those type of attacks
The FGM-148A flies at altitudes above ground of up to 50m (160 ft) for the direct attack or 150 m (490 ft) for the top attack mode. The Javelin's IIR (Imaging Infrared) seeker with its staring focal plane array will guide the missile to the target, and the tandem shaped charge warhead detonates on impact. The warhead section consists of a precursor warhead to defeat ERA (Explosive Reactive Armour) and a main warhead to penetrate up to 800 mm of conventional armour.
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The CLU is reusable, the 35 pound missile and launch tube are used once. The Javelin contains a dual shaped charge warhead, mainly to defeat reactive armor. The missile comes in from above, hitting thinner top armor as well.
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Originally posted by Stealth Spy
Originally posted by deltaboy
armor.vif2.ru...
There is also an interesting artist's impression :
[edit on 21-5-2005 by Stealth Spy]
Thats a funky lookin tank. The US is making a new one which will be short and stealthy. Russians wouldnt be able to dectected it unless they see it with their eyes.
Originally posted by rogue1
BS, so now you're saying that it can distinguish between normal HE and a shaped charged HE.
Originally posted by chinawhite
It doesn't distinguish anything. Its a extra layer of armour to defeat APS rounds not HE rounds
Newer KE penetrators like the US M829A2 and now M829A3, have been improved to defeat the armor design of Kontakt-5. The M829A2 was the immediate response, developed in part to take on the new armor bricks. The M829A3 is a further improvement of this as well and designed to fight future armor protection methods.
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by rogue1
BS, so now you're saying that it can distinguish between normal HE and a shaped charged HE.
It doesn't distinguish anything. Its a extra layer of armour to defeat APS rounds not HE rounds
Originally posted by rogue1
Gawd, you said that it won't be detonated by mortar rounds, however will magically work when struck by a sabot
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by rogue1
Gawd, you said that it won't be detonated by mortar rounds, however will magically work when struck by a sabot
I gather you dont know how the Kontak-5 in comparison to the standard ERA
It does not work on kinetic instead the percising of the dense exterior which triggers the explosive off. And i doubt a mortar round (like you claimed) would
Originally posted by rogue1
ERm nada. I gather you don't know what Kontact-5 is or how reactive armour work What is this dense interior you talk about ?
Kontakt-5 ERA
In addition, thanks to their heavier (15 mm hard steel) front plate, the Kontakt-5 elements are harder to trigger by the precursor charges of tandem warheads, forcing the producers of tandem ATGMs to allocate more mass to precursor charge and, making an MBT more resistant to tandem HEAT warheads, as well.
It is very important to note that while light ERA containers are completely destroyed in the process of detonation, Kontakt-5 sections are not, as their detonation is contained by the outside armor plates. Therefore even after detonation Kontakt-5 sections continue to provide some applique protection.
Just because an article says something does not mean it is so.
Actually its third generation.
First one were the israeli ERA brick type blocks which were basic explosives which defeated Heat or other chemical rounds.
Then russian Kontakt-5 which were like the brick ERA but had a thicker denser outside to try break the tip of a APFSDS round and gave it extra protection which was mildly better.
Then there is this new Kaktus type of interweving armour which is a lot thinner and looks like it doesn't contain a lot of explosives or maybe none at all. Im just assuming this is just going to be used to defeat APFSDS rounds
Comparision
As you can see a lot thinner. And possibly the armour arrangment is a clam shell one as well
Here is a good read about ERA
Modern Explosive Reactive Armours
Originally posted by chinawhite
And 15mm of hardened steel shatted APS rounds, how is a "Few hundred" grams of HE going to penerate 15mm of steel?. And considering the armour is put on angles of more than 45 degress it at least gives it more avabile armour. eg the famous T-34 armour on a slope