'Mass Casualty event' - Attack at Christmas market in Germany

I didnt care about his religion you cannot bring in millions of people who speak a different language (by and large) have a different culture without something like this eventually happening and then you get blow back the other direction.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Exactly. At some point the cultures will clash no matter which two are put together.

The argument of 'we left a bad situation' is not valid if you bring the culture that made the situation with you. You left because you did not like it but you want here to be just like there.

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

I hope noone follows your traffic jam advice. Parking in the emergency lane is illeagle unless you are the emergency. You block the emergency responders. You must stay in the regular lanes to stay out of their way. This applies to all USA states. Your country may vary.

I have never sayed to park in the emergency lane! I agree with you and do not know how you read it from my words. Some in the video do this, yes, I never comment on it or sayed the video is ready for training. I do train the youth fire brigade here. This thread is about Germany and here it is same like in the USA it looks like. If you want I can look for training material with official guideline, next time I go into fire brigade building. We have new year celebration, I can go to computer and look for video.

I am in fire brigade since youth and now middle aged and I train youth too. I do not invent it now for appear bigger, I sayed it before and talked to member here and in discord about fire brigade topic before.

I think it is big misunderstanding, I agree with all what you say.

You should pull over and stop in regular traffic if possible.

Yes, what I sayed. Pull over and stop. But also when you get into traffic jam and not know yet, there was accident. You need do always. Always be prepared. Because once all traffic is full stop, it is hard to make rescue lane. This is why I say, always pull over when stopping, rolling out to left and right. Like in the video.

It is called the emergency lane for a reason. I have seen several police stops for using emergency lanes during traffic jams.

Like I sayed, I/we am the one that need to get through. Sometime emergency lane is not wide enough. For the turntable ladder truck under bridges, sometime we need take the lane more to middle of bridge. Only one example why sometime it is better have middle lane and not use emergency lane and it is product of situation.

a reply to: Irishhaf

I agree.

I am not against immigration in general. The problem was open border and ignoring due process, law that was there for reason. For that we can help the one in deep trouble and those that want to participate in positive but keep out the incompatible.

A fine line of humanitarism when needed like in war, but control the flow in a balanced way so everyone profit and the country and people can benefit.

But let us go back to topic. It think the case here is clear.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
I didnt care about his religion you cannot bring in millions of people who speak a different language (by and large) have a different culture without something like this eventually happening and then you get blow back the other direction.

So, taking that as your starting point. Why school shootings in the US? What is that blow-back from?





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originally posted by: Naftalin

I am not against immigration in general. The problem was open border and ignoring due process, law that was there for reason.

I don't know about the rest of Europe but in the UK we have border control because, as a consequence of the pogroms in Russia and Poland, large numbers of Jews came our way. These were poor destitute people and we really didn't want their type messing up our already over-crowded and fetid cities, so we invented border control laws to prevent them from coming here.

Then came the second world war. And once again, poor destitute jews wanted to come to the UK fleeing persecution but we had them this time, we had the border control laws, the Alien Acts, so we could turn them away with impunity. Job well done.

Then Hitler and his compatriots killed all those jews that we turned away - literally - and so we all, those of us who had turned away the poor and the desperate leading to their deaths on an industrial scale by the millions realised our error and created the Asylum and Refugee provisions to prevent that happening again.

Open borders were just fine for vast majority of human history and really, historically speaking, it's the borders, more often than not, that cause the problems rather than the lack of them.

originally posted by: BrucellaOrchitis

originally posted by: Irishhaf
I didnt care about his religion you cannot bring in millions of people who speak a different language (by and large) have a different culture without something like this eventually happening and then you get blow back the other direction.

So, taking that as your starting point. Why school shootings in the US? What is that blow-back from?

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Add to that the progressive education system where kids “couldn’t fail”, the change in the rating system for entertainment with violence and graphic content, both parents out of the home working, and marginalized youth, especially those that were taught to feel guilt and shame for what their forefathers did, and you have a great formula to produce screwed up kids.

originally posted by: NorthOS
Add to that the progressive education system where kids “couldn’t fail”, the change in the rating system for entertainment with violence and graphic content, both parents out of the home working, and marginalized youth, especially those that were taught to feel guilt and shame for what their forefathers did, and you have a great formula to produce screwed up kids.

You think the intention was to produce screwed up kids? What was screwing up kids before that?

If it was that simple, why aren't more kids screwed up?

Only a very small percentage of kids kill but if all kids are victims of a "progressive education" system and have been made to feel "guilt and shame", why aren't all kids trying to kill eat other. Why such a small proportion?

Both parents out working is not a new thing. That has been par the course for the working classes since "work" was invented. The stay at home mother is a modern invention.

Why is it only now that children require are so demanding of their parent's time that they will murder their peers if they don't get it?

We have been screwing up our kids for centuries with bad parenting. Nothing new there to blow-back upon.

Parents that are not present. Teachers that don't care. These things do mean that when a child is struggling no one notices. When their mental health starts to deteriorate, there is no one to see the change, no one to catch them, help them get back on track. Same with migrants.

This is not about school shootings.
Please stick to the Topic.....

'Mass Casualty event' - Attack at Christmas market in Germany

Thanks.

a reply to: Naftalin

It appears that the Saudis warned the German government FOUR times about this guy.

A source close to the Saudi government has told the BBC it sent four official notifications known as "Notes Verbal" to the German authorities, warning them about what they said were "the very extreme views" held by Taleb Al-Abdulmohsen.

www.bbc.com...

Maybe the guy is some sort of anti-Saudi radical.

In Canada we have issues with the Eritreans fighting as well as the East Indians.

Regardless of what these immigrants have issues with back home, we don’t want it in our countries.

They need to leave the conflicts that they claim to be fleeing and not screw up their new homes.

a reply to: Naftalin

Sorry for my misunderstanding you. I read it several times and I would have worded it differently than you did. I am used to writing instructions for idiots where I worked and you have to be very precise and specific with some of them.

I had a guy remove a panel on night shift that I had put instructions for him not to and a post it on the door. It took me most of the next day to put it back and figure out the wiring to the five motors and control wiring to get it back together. It did stop management from wanting night shift to help with electrical projects.

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3
It can happen, misunderstandings. All okay

a reply to: NorthOS

Maybe the guy is some sort of anti-Saudi radical.

This case looks like it is bit crazyer. From current theory, he wanted to punish the German government for being open muslim. Could be tharnishing the true reason, maybe he is islam sleeper.

Regardless of what these immigrants have issues with back home, we don’t want it in our countries.

Yes, leave it at border -that they pass lawful.

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

You seem to be suggesting that it was our fault that Hitler killed all those Jews, and the others you forgot about.
That's some crazy, #ed up logic.

And it wasn't just because of Jewish immigrants we have border controls.
Please show me sources that back that up.

originally posted by: angelchemuel
a reply to: gortex

It's 11 dead now and 70 injured.
Sad Rainbows
Jane

ETA A man from Saudi Arabia has been arrested and car being searched for explosive device

FYI...

Christmas Market Attack Suspect Was a Saudi Arabian ‘Leftist’ Asylum Activist Promoted by BBC.

Full Story at: www.breitbart.com...

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis

Ill take deflection for 1000 alex...

care to comment on the actual problem rather than go BUT US...

this is a german problem that was foreseeable as early as 2017, so try to stay on topic.

originally posted by: onestonemonkey
a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3
German press and Reuters reported that the Saudi authorities had reported him to the German authorities recently,so he was definitley on the radar as a threat.
The usual pattern sadly.

Right, then he found himself a target where the bollards were conveniently moved aside.

a reply to: 777Vader

Seems he used his position as a Dr to bypass security.

In the aftermath of the attack, questions were raised over how the driver was able to enter the Christmas market, given protections put in place since an attack in Berlin in 2016.

Now Magdeburg city's deputy for personnel, citizen services and public order, Ronni Krug, has said the perpetrator used an emergency service rescue route.

The entrance, designed for doctors and firefighters to reach accidents, was not protected by bollards, reports German outlet Bild.

Instead, police forces were stationed there, said Krug.

Defending the concept, he said it had "proven itself over many years".
news.sky.com...

About 1,000 "Far Right" demonstrators gathered in a central square in the state capital of Saxony-Anhalt to protest and call for "re-immigration", the video which only contains footage of concerned Germans protesting is prefaced with a "distressing content " warning .


Care about your Country ? , then you are Far Right.

And they wonder why Right wing parties are surging across Europe , listen to your people or pay the price !

a reply to: BrucellaOrchitis


For most of human history we haven't had welfare or the NHS or free schooling.

You can't have those things with an open border, you need to keep down the number of people taking from the pot else it ends up empty.

just seen this on X, the supposedly non muslim killer shouting Allan's snackbar...link to X