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Oct 18th 2024 - Desperate Attempt by Obama Judge and Biden-Harris DOJ to Stop Candidate Trump.

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posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

"If Smith's goal was to get Trump in court, he never would have released all of that stuff."

I don't understand. Please explain?



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: frogs453

Are you okay with a Global sect taking over the United States? Because that is what is happening here. 100% it's in all of our faces, so you can no longer deny knowing this as fact.

We, the United States, are being taken by a Global outfit. Are YOU okay with this?
edit on 19-10-2024 by SourGrapes because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vermilion

"If Smith's goal was to get Trump in court, he never would have released all of that stuff."

I don't understand. Please explain?


Prosecutors don’t ever release the ridiculous amount of “evidence” before a criminal trial like Smith has.
1) It is blatant election interference by Smith, and Chutkan for allowing it without justification.
2) It’s also borderline salting the jury pool.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

Smith didn't ask for it to be released. Again, filings are always released. Smith noted that much needed to remain under seal at that time and still is. That likely includes transcripts of testimony before a grand jury and FBI interviews.

Now, first of all, this is all happening because Trump took this all the way to the Supreme Court. When they delayed for 6 months and sent it back down for Chutkin to determine, the entire fillings had to be redone. This again is because of Trump's actions. You don't like it? Blame Trump and the justices who sent it back down to Chutkin.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

Please provide links that federal court filings that are not under seal should not be or are not released.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

I see. You mean releasing it into the public domain?

That would never happen here.

That's just wrong.

But I don't know how it works over there.

Here, it's not in the public domain until it all comes out in open Court.

Weird.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vermilion

I see. You mean releasing it into the public domain?

That would never happen here.

That's just wrong.

But I don't know how it works over there.

Here, it's not in the public domain until it all comes out in open Court.

Weird.

Yes it’s kind of a problem here because most of that “evidence” hasn’t had a hearing to determine fact and/or admissibility, especially considering the immunity issue.
The prosecutors normally only release the bare minimum as to not show their hand.
They do not ever release thousands of pages of this stuff.
In this case, Smith did and the judge let him.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

Yes, I get it now.

Most...odd?

Your judicial system is a bit of a mystery to me.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: frogs453

Now, first of all, this is all happening because Trump took this all the way to the Supreme Court.

In case you didn’t know, or conveniently forgot, Smith is the one who asked for it to be sent up to SCOTUS.
Smith did that during the DC circuit review of the immunity and before they even ruled on it.
The DC circuit denied Smith’s asking and decided to rule themselves.
This did two things.
1) It gave them the power to decide against Trump, which they did.
They ruled immunity only applies to presidents other than Trump. 🤡
2) It delayed the trial even though they expedited their decision.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vermilion

Yes, I get it now.

Most...odd?

Your judicial system is a bit of a mystery to me.


QUESTION: how far would Trump’s antics have gotten him In England?

I doubt we’d be where we are in this trial in England.

Seems to me Churkan has had enough and us pushing boundaries to get this done.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vermilion

Yes, I get it now.

Most...odd?

Your judicial system is a bit of a mystery to me.


If you look at it through the concept of “innocent until proven guilty” it’s not difficult to see the underhanded shenanigans going on with the judges and the DOJ/prosecutors.
I know zero about UK law but I would assume due process is a foundation as well.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Seems to me Churkan has had enough and us pushing boundaries to get this done.

That’s a silly statement.
Chutkan has rushed the whole process from day one.
Forgoing defendants due process the whole way.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:45 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Since you ask, the Judge would not have been as patient with him and would have sent him down until he had "purged his contempt".



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

Yes, it is. This is clearly politicized shenanigans.

Stop me if I am being too technical....



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Annee

Since you ask, the Judge would not have been as patient with him and would have sent him down until he had "purged his contempt".


You may confusing trials, easy to do since there are too many.
You’re probably thinking of the Merchan trial when he unconstitutionally gagged Trump.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:51 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Annee

Since you ask, the Judge would not have been as patient with him and would have sent him down until he had "purged his contempt".


I’m sure you have your “delicate” trials.

I personally find these Trump trials ridiculous — pointing finger directly at Trump.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Annee

Since you ask, the Judge would not have been as patient with him and would have sent him down until he had "purged his contempt".


I’m sure you have your “delicate” trials.

I personally find these Trump trials ridiculous — pointing finger directly at Trump.



Ridiculous?
What word would you use if you actually knew none of these lawfare cases should have ever even been in court?
At least you can’t deny seeing how all of them keep crumbling.
That’s a good indicator that they’re indeed just lawfare.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: Vermilion

Not confusing. Any hearing where someone slagged off the Judge, Court staff etc could result in contempt of Court.

I had a case where I got summary judgement and the guy shouted "If this is justice I'm a #ing banana."

DJ: "Usher, detain that man".

Night in the cells until he apologized.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vermilion

Yes, it is. This is clearly politicized shenanigans.

Stop me if I am being too technical....


From both sides? Or all sides?

I’m just not a fan of nonsense.



posted on Oct, 19 2024 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Vermilion

Not confusing. Any hearing where someone slagged off the Judge, Court staff etc could result in contempt of Court.

I had a case where I got summary judgement and the guy shouted "If this is justice I'm a #ing banana."

DJ: "Usher, detain that man".

Night in the cells until he apologized.


Trump didn’t slag off Chutkan, so no purging of contempt needed.
That’s why I noted the confusion.



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