Euthanasia of ATS

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy



Because they LOVE us!

LOL...that's us the ATS dysfunctional family.

Obama started the downfall or at least got it moving faster ... It's been nonstop politics since then.

Bleh

a reply to: DBCowboy

ATS is like checking your pockets before you leave the house. It's such an ingrained habit that most of us just do it. It's the first thing I check in the morning because we are a melting pot of news and opinions. Even after 16 years here, I would still be pissed if it just disappeared.

Even you reincarnated from....well, those who know, know.

We'll keep going till "They" pull the plug.

originally posted by: nugget1
If DI would list the new topics and the author instead of the last topic commented on and who the commenter was I'd probably switch.

There is a way. I'll DM you there later tonight/early morning; a bit tied up atm.

I suppose.

It's just disheartening to see folks I didn't even like get banned, and I feel the site is being whittled down.

From once a mighty oak, now a toothpick.

a reply to: DBCowboy

ATS is in a unique situation.
We're essentially a closed system, with no new members.

We could turn ATS into an open democracy, where only members get to vote.
I was gonna say one vote each, but there may be some socks aboot ...

We could openly create threads, and vote on them, and di it better than the false democracies like Swisschocolateland.
Some may say : that's what we already do.
But I mean we could take it to another level.

I don't know.
Just a different flavoured idea.

If we formulate a good enough idea, perhaps we would get the mods interested, so they don't have to play good-cop/bad-cop anymore.

I check ATS every morning while having coffee - Why? The World has gone crazy, and we have members from all over the World posting news that we don't get to see most times in our own Countries.

Not Politics .......

a reply to: BernnieJGato

I've not got a clue any longer.

Some reason i have late August in my head.

I look at this more as a listening post, and likely the owner whichever agency it is nowadays does as well. As long as folks like us are scouring other lesser seen corners of the web and presenting something that has not been noticed, there is value here as an OSINT hub. Not to mention they get to test their lovely AI bots on us to better refine their ability to lie and obfuscate.

I like how easy ATA is to navigate. DI not so much. Maybe it's me. I am a technical person with a computer background but find DI frustrating to navigate.

a reply to: montybd

ATS was not very different in the beginning. It took like twelve years to get to this format on ATS and there were many technical people volunteering to help. It will just take time for DI to build that same sense of community again.

This place had actual rocket scientists and aviation engineers participating at one point. Who knows if that kind of mind will ever feel comfortable on the internet again in these kinds of communities with the world the way it is. They cannot even discuss the public aspects of their work for fear of being tagged by foreign agents for infiltration. It must be rough being a genius on the internet. Good thing I am just some nobody idiot, they leave dumbasses like me alone.

I'm a little behind and hadn't realised no new accounts are being created. Probably the reason no one has bothered to get back to me about being locked out of my old account after the hack lol

a reply to: DAVID64

Noooo !!!

Dust Bunny Lives Matter !

Smoosh gathers all of the dust bunnies and gives them safe harbor.



I was thniking more along the lines of washing windows and doing dishes, but perhaps I should give these wild ideas of mine considerably more thought.....

originally posted by: Encia22

originally posted by: nugget1
If DI would list the new topics and the author instead of the last topic commented on and who the commenter was I'd probably switch.

There is a way. I'll DM you there later tonight/early morning; a bit tied up atm.

Thanks, Encia; that's so kind of you!

Weird, no new accounts allowed?

Let me ask - If ATS was to go subscription only would you pay $9.99 a month - At this point I would not,

For the life of me I still can't figure out why no advertising sales like a real advertising sales department no merch nothing to bring in income .

Hell, if I was an owner i would have bought my own T-shirt printers etc. long ago .

I would have bought an ATS shirt or a cool Alien shirt so many topics - And a bunch of members would have bought political yard signs flags hats etc. ...

I could do it but would need $100,000 up front and a budget, IT team and a monthly salary

a reply to: ByeByeAmericanPie

“I started singing bye, bye, Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry
Them good ole boys were drinking whiskey 'n rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die”

I’m sorry, but just couldn’t help myself.

a reply to: JadedGhost

I can't help myself, either.

The Doors, The End:

m.youtube.com...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Just a question to toss out there, with the new site up (Deny Ignorance) and Discord running, and the fact that no new members can join ATS, instead of slowly dying a long and lingering death, why haven't the mods just banned everyone?

No one could post anymore.

Topics would fade away into irrelevance.

Is it time to pull the plug?

Just asking. . . . .

While ATS continues to be moderated, DI will probably continue to lose a bunch of new members and already has over the past several months. The initial boom of membership seems over and DI has failed to capture the inflow. If moderation stops then the site will no longer be the barrier that it is now, no banning needed. It'll be too chaotic for it to be attractive for propaganda and the message to potential members will be visible.

It would only take one mod (or anyone really) to post a thread with the DI information and explanation of the current situation on ATS every few days. It would be easy keep it at the top, then all the people that tried in vain to set up accounts may have known DI existed. The board being moderated gives the appearance that it's a functioning site, but it isn't. While it continues to appear like a functioning site this problem will continue.

People show up, try to register without success, then simply disappear. They aren't spending a week here digging through posts to find a link to DI, especially when they don't know it exists.

Everyone here seems pretty clear on the fact that DI isn't for all ATSers, too. As Western governments turn to authoritarian censorship and criminlizing the exercising of rights, DI seems to have made a point of castigating political discussion as the source of incivility. It plays right into the hands of groups that have been trying to ban ATS for years. These are the same forces, the sycophants for these groups, that engage in malicious forum behavior and use toxic rhetorical techniques to stifle discussion.

Imagine if these behaviors and techniques, rather than the topics in which they are most often employed, were the things that were taboo.

I'm not capitulating to authoritarians and cry-bullies, nor do I foresee joining sites that have capitulation built into their policies. I hope everyone finds a place the suits them and allows them to discuss the things they enjoy discussing without being heavily restricted. Unfortunately, for many here, that doesn't seem to be DI.