Hurricane Helene storm surge flooding rain, 30+ dead Florida Georgia Tenn North Carolina hard hit

a reply to: lostsock2

When I decided to try and be prepared water purification was the first thing I looked up.

Its frightening that so many people dont know how to treat water to make it safe.

Here's a link to a loop of 14 hours of rescue helicopter traffic over NC.

On the ground is just going to be so delayed. Saw video today of one road now covered in a height of 5 ft of rocks and stones for like a 1/4 mile. Just devastating.

14 hours of rescue helicopter traffic NC-Twitter

a reply to: frogs453

yea, if the rumor mill is correct and they had a huge storm that already pushed things to flood stage then got that hurricane.

Worse than the worst case scenario I think.

I wouldnt be surprised if the death toll shoots past 1k, lotta folks back in the holler that had nowhere to run to or time to.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Yes, I've followed a lot of posts of the missing, and a spreadsheet list. Many were on roofs when the house floated away, some managed to rescue others, but they themselves are now missing. When I look at addresses, I mean some are so remote, right on the downside of a mountain, in the path of anything that would flow that way. It's awful.

Some good news is that many are being found OK. Terribly tragic event. I don't think anything could have been done to prevent it. And as we've seen with other devastating hurricanes, some towns still have not fully recovered, years and years later. It's so terribly sad.

did i hear a correct pronouncing of hurricane HEL-LEAN.... finally

did i hear a correct pronouncing of hurricane HEL-LEAN.... finally

did i hear a correct pronouncing of hurricane HEL-LEAN.... finally

a reply to: frogs453

What really sucks from my remote point of view..

Ive seen Fema in action first hand, they show up with all the equipment and goods to the high profile areas, remote towns not so much. (oklahoma several years ago when Moore got hit with an F5, all the news was in moore, all of fema was to, all the little towns that also got hit, if they were lucky a couple people from fema showed, churches did the coordinating and locals did the heavy lifting to clean things up)

Lot of those little towns will have to rely on the state and themselves to get back to any semblance of normal.

a reply to: Irishhaf

I can only relate as to having a place that was damaged on Sanibel Island during Ian. I only know that the infrastructure is all in place, however, so many places are still not fully repaired and functioning. I'm not sure with damage from subsequent hurricanes that some areas will ever recover.

I think it's time to sell anywhere on the gulf coast. It will not get better, only worse with monster storms each year. I don't know what's in store for Appalachia.

a reply to: Irishhaf

FEMA is a joke.
Now they’re worse if that was even possible.

I’ve dealt with them also when my house was destroyed in the 1994 Northridge earthquake.

The Biden Harris admin changed FEMA’s goals.
Here they are now…

“The 2022-2026 FEMA Strategic Plan outlines a bold vision and three ambitious goals designed to address key challenges the agency faces during a pivotal moment in the field of emergency management.”

Goal 1: Instill equity as a foundation of emergency management

Goal 2: Lead whole of community in climate resilience

Goal 3: Promote and sustain a ready FEMA and prepared nation

Let them tell you themselves… www.fema.gov...

Re: gettr.com...

Imagine the Trump-Musk team next year!

originally posted by: StudioNada


did i hear a correct pronouncing of hurricane HEL-LEAN.... finally

HELL-LEAN
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I went to 2 different grocery stores this evening. When it comes to bread, water, eggs, toilet paper, paper towels and some other supplies, reminds me of Covid days. Entire aisle nearly bare. Walmart did have an off brand of some eggs though and they had some small cases of small water bottles. Seemed like almost everyone in the store was buying water. I’m happy to have power and air conditioning. It has been muggy and in the 80’s. It still feels like the tropics. Next week is supposed to get much better.

My friends down in South Carolina still have no power. They are using a neighbor’s pool water with permission to flush toilets and eating peanut butter sandwiches. I heard over 4000 working on restoring power but over 62 percent still without power as of Wednesday evening almost a week later. I read they feel lucky that no trees fell on their house because that happened to some. I also heard there are still trees blocking roads in the middle of the largest city in the county. Just 3 days ago the power outage map showed 97 percent outage in the county so things are improving. I’m hearing over 18 states have sent people to help so I will say Thanks to everyone helping out all the storm victims. Unfortunately too many weren’t prepared to survive this storm. It will take some areas probably months or years to fully recover in my opinion.

Thank you if you are helping out with manpower or gifts. My condolences if any of your family were affected. I truly believe some people in the mountains have a long journey ahead of them before anything approaching normal is re established with so many roads washed out and trees down and mud slides reshaping the landscape.

a reply to: Vermilion

Agree with you. IF you can get FEMA insurance, you're likely to be in an area that will never need it. Hurricane/flood insurance truly sucks, and imo is breaking the backs of good people who did the right thing, but got caught up in the crap anyway.

Just listened to a pilot do an interview with a local radio station in Chattanooga Tennessee. He pulled out for maintenance and a few hours rest. Heading back shortly.

Trucks are begining to be able to get closer to the worse areas. Fixed wing flights of supplies are not needed as much, trucks are taking over long hauls of supplies. Helicopters are doing most of the flight operations in the worst areas still. Sixty helicopters operating in a 50 mile radius area. Few are federal. Mostly civilian and then national guard.

Hundreds of Starlimk stations brought in, I think he said around 700, less than 100 from fema.

Improved landing zones are now set up so the helicopter landings are safer now. Distribution of supplies and communication is being handled from those sites.

The need for supplies, food, water, personal supplies, etc.. will be needed for at least weeks in some areas. Some are cut off from landslides and washouts that bad.

Over 7000 feet of temporary bridging has been moved to that area and is being installed.

The immediate medical and rescue need have been taken care of mostly by civilian agencies. It is now changing to keeping the survivers supplied until the roads, and other infrastructure can be rebuilt.

Still many messages going in asking about people that have not been heard from since the storm. The searches continue.

Biden's quote of the moment, "What storm?"

This just on Fox naws, a SpaceX engineer is reporting that they can no longer deliver and install Starlink equipment without being escorted by at least firemen or other officials. This is delaying deployment of emergency communication equipment.

They are also reporting of several reports of fema confenscating other equipment and supplies from civilian agencies and warehousing them. They are not allowing the donations to be distributed as they come in.

In my opinion, someone needs to straighten fema out. It seems they can't let others help because it might make them look bad. It is way past fema looking bad in this energy response.

I am purposefully not capitalizing fema as they don't deserve it.

Fox is also reporting at least 200 people still missing and over 200 known deceased.

Edit: I have found more on the Starlink and donation confenscation part.

www.pcmag.com...

My God WTF is going on!!!! ☠️☠️🥶️


REPORT: FEMA is blocking & seizing shipments, including Starlinks, in NC as business leaders & locals are trying to save Hurricane Helene victims.

The development comes as new FEMA whistleblowers allege FEMA withheld pre-disaster aid.

Musk source: FEMA is actively blocking shipments & seizing goods & services locally & locking them away to state they are their own.

Volunteer: FEMA said they "are too tied up at the border to send more representatives" to North Carolina.

Musk source 2: They are now about to shut down the Air space to 'regulate' the private choppers we are riding in to deliver Starlink and supplies.

We spoke with Ivanka [Trump] and handed out Starlinks with her yesterday but FEMA then showed up and started blocking us.

FEMA whistleblowers: FEMA has wasted taxpayer funds, misappropriated funds, and left other federal, state, and local responders without deployment orders on the ground.

a reply to: xuenchen

Fema is doing more harm than good at this point. They don't have effective leadership that is for the people in need.

Biden had a press conference today, no questions or mention of the hurricane response. The leadership problem goes all the way up.

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: xuenchen

Fema is doing more harm than good at this point. They don't have effective leadership that is for the people in need.

Personally, I think it's on purpose. The political advantage is their goal. Nothing is beyond possibly now. They can't be this incompetent.


David Axelrod says Hurricane Helene victims in North Carolina that are Trump voters will have a hard time voting in the 2024 election

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Irishhaf

I can only relate as to having a place that was damaged on Sanibel Island during Ian. I only know that the infrastructure is all in place, however, so many places are still not fully repaired and functioning. I'm not sure with damage from subsequent hurricanes that some areas will ever recover.

I think it's time to sell anywhere on the gulf coast. It will not get better, only worse with monster storms each year. I don't know what's in store for Appalachia.

I recommend fear and selling your land on the coast. /s Then watch the very folks in the media buy up cheap land where houses where washed out to sea or down the mountain's once babbling brook. Adding another notch on the do what I say, not what I do column of keeping score.

You don't understand people if you think they will do that.