Raise your hand if you want this person to govern you for the next 4 years???

originally posted by: underpass61

"Everyone beware" -sounds like a direct threat

It was a threat.

Kamala is a crazy from California that literally
is unhinged in dozens of video clips.

Imagine what would happen when she gets a few
glasses of wine and goes on a tear.

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

How much would it cost him out of his billions to help care for his grand nephew. A pittance, yet, he has not. So the question that i have back here is just who is holding the grudge here? Who really is being truthful.

With all due respect, Bingo we have no idea who this guy is or how he's lived his life.
Is he one of those who makes bad decisions and squanders his money, then expects family to bail him out? Is his son so terminal that no amount of money will improve his condition but rather prolong the inevitable? Does Fred want to prolong his life for the SSI easy money?
SSI provides pretty much all the medical care a disabled person would need including financial aid. Is Fred not being responsible enough with those funds to need a bailout?

Did Trump really suggest he let the kid die, or is it Fred's hatred of Trump making false statements?

There are always two sides to everything and pronouncing guilt with only half the information just perpetuates the problem.
Should Trump refute the claims with the rest of the story? I bet the Trump haters would accuse Trump of slander-just as Fred is trying to do to Trump.

The book was published on July 30, 2024; don't you think it's possible Fred has always leaned liberal? Or perhaps he's upset that his uncle was willing to fund his lifestyle? Maybe even the DNC arranged a ghost writer and enriched Fred for his cooperation?
I bet if Trump graced the guy with enough money-more than the DNC offered-he'd switch parties in a heartbeat. Just my personal bias towards back-stabbing relatives that love creating family drama and airing their dirty laundry in public to be the focus of attention.

Taking things at face value based on personal bias seems to be the greatest obsticle to any meaningful progress in society these days.

For all we know Fred Trump could be a first class jerk and even more unlikable than Kamala in person, but I don't care enough about internal family feuds to research the guy.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: putnam6

Why was Fred and Mary's inheritance taken away to begin with?

Good question, why.

According to Fred and Mary's story, it was because uncle Don needed money due to being in a money pinch. The book details how earlier, information that came out during the discovery process over that inheritance, uncle Don made an attempt to coerce his father Fred 1 into signing over all power to not only the company that he had turned over to Don but more the entire financial empire that he had established.

Fred 1 was still the center of that empire and Don attempted to have him sign papers during the early stages of his dementia that would relinquish any and all power he had to Don. His siblings discovered his attempt and put an end to it. This came out during the trial over Fred's will.

The basis for them being excluded from the will was that the will had been changed during that same period of dementia. It was changed by only a few words. The original will held that the inheritance was to be divided equally among his children and there families. The amended will changed that to ''surviving'' children. Fred Jr, died before his father leaving his family out of the amended will.

Fred 3 was, out of thin air, informed that he and his sister were out. They were told to sign an agreement and would then receive two hundred thousand. Fred 3's lawyer who had been the lawyer for Fred 1 and a supervisor of Fred3s stake in the business called him prior to receiving the notice and told him not to sign.

The gist of the law suit was that Fred1, near the end of his life had been in almost complete dementia and had been coerced by Don and his other siblings to change the will and exclude the family of the deceased brother Fred Jr. This would mean an increase in their own percentages by tens of millions of dollars.

In the end, the trial ended in a settlement which did not disclose publicly the amounts but it was certainly much more for Fred3 and his sister then the paltry two hundred grand they were told to take.

You have all that rattling around in your ole noodle, or did you help write his book.

You see this kind of stuff happen in families of wealth all the time, unfortunately.

So when did this occur? Trump's been worth over 500 million since 1988, was it during the early 90s? When this occurred Trump was worth close to 2 billion dollars

Why would he be deeking around with 10s of millions makes no sense. Any documentation besides Fred's book?



I did find where Fred Jr., was a disappointment to his father and was no longer part of the Trump business early on

en.wikipedia.org...

Fred Sr. wanted his oldest son to be "invulnerable" so he could take over his real-estate business, E. Trump & Son (later known as the Trump Organization), but Fred Jr. was the opposite in personality.[11] In 1966, Fred Jr. was listed in newspapers as vice president of the company, but he had a difficult time working with his father.[12] Fred Jr. left the company to pursue his dream of being a pilot, quickly being accepted at Trans World Airlines, which created tension with his father.[13] According to Fred Jr.'s daughter, Mary L. Trump (born 1965), her grandfather "dismantled him by devaluing and degrading every aspect of his personality." Both Fred Sr. and Donald mocked him for his decision to become an airline pilot, comparing it to being a bus driver or chauffeur.[14][15][16][17]

Alcoholism and death

Fred Trump Sr. c. 1950
By 1970, after a series of domestic incidents, Clapp asked Trump to leave their home and arranged for Fred Sr. to change the locks.[18] When his alcoholism prevented him from continuing to function as a pilot, Trump returned to work for his father's business. He eventually moved into the unfurnished attic of his parents' house and again did maintenance on Trump properties.[19] On September 26, 1981,[20] at the age of 42, he died from a heart attack caused by his alcohol use.[21][22][c]

In 1999, just after Fred Sr.'s funeral, Fred III's son, William Trump, was born with cerebral palsy.[30] The Trump family agreed to pay for the child's medical expenses. When Fred Sr.'s will was revealed it mandated that Trump's children, Fred III and Mary, would be excluded from their father's share of Fred Sr.'s inheritance; over $20 million would be divided among Fred Sr.'s other children.[13][d] Fred III and Mary filed a lawsuit, alleging that their father's siblings, including Donald, exhibited "undue influence" on a dementia-addled Fred Sr. to cut them out of the inheritance. Donald, who later said he "was angry because they sued,"[13] suspended the medical benefits for Trump children, as well as Fred III's infant son. According to Mary, she and Fred III sued to have the benefits reinstated, but only her infant nephew received "some accommodations" as a result.[32] Mary’s lawsuit was rejected by a New York State Court, citing that she had signed agreements that removed her ability to sue but granted her more than $2.7 million. The judge found her to have willfully acknowledged (and signed) the agreement and ruled that the agreement was neither coerced nor unfair.[33] The court decision was upheld on appeal.[34]

www.forbes.com...

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: theatreboy

Maybe I was not clear to you. I do not think he is on a divine mission, nor do I think he thinks he is. However, even though you feign ignorance, there are plenty people with in wide scope of Christian faith that do. To be more blunt, and loud if I may be forgiven.

DID YOU NOT HEAR THE VOICES INVOKING GODS CHOSEN WARRIOR SPOUTED BY SPEAKER AFTER SPEAKER AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION???

Why yell at me, I come for debate.

And no, I did not. You can read into what they said all you want.

I still think it is a miracle he is alive.

But after the life I’ve lived, I am a walking miracle too, just to be alive.

It is all perspective.

August 17th Update

Kamala Harris's 2nd in command is competing with Kamala for the "biggest liar" award...

Tim Walz has been accused of lying about his military rank by his National Guard successor for 'political gain,' private letters have revealed.

Walz, who is currently serving as the Governor of Minnesota, joined the National Guard after high school and served 24 years in the 1st Battalion, 125th Field Artillery, rising to the rank of command sergeant major.

The now 60-year-old, who is Kamala Harris's recently-announced running mate, retired in 2005 - months after being warned that the battalion would be deployed to Iraq.

Walz left to run for Congress, and he was elected to office in 2006.

Private letters addressed to Walz from his National Guard successor, Tom Behrends, from 2016 have accused the Governor of lying about his rank for political gain.

More at: www.dailymail.co.uk...

a reply to: nugget1

Also with due respect Nug, your points are in general, possibilities. However..

The book is a history of the Trump family from the time of their German origins, their immigration and the establishment of Trump dynasty. He talks about his grandfather Fred and the family gatherings and his impressions of growing up with all the surrounding wealth. The staunch grandfather Fred, his children, aunts and uncles, and his father who did not want, according to him, to succumb to the overbearing pressure to mature into the clone that Fred 1 wanted him to be.

He wrote strongly about his father Fred Jr becoming the black sheep of the family rather than the heir apparent and his decision to marry a woman of ''lower'' class standing. Of the family gatherings where not only the ''lower class women, his mother'' was not accepted by the family at large and the ensuing ostracization of not only her but Fred Jr who due to that and other things was turning him towards alcohol abuse.

The book was , to me at least, boring.

Taking things at face value based on personal bias seems to be the greatest obsticle to any meaningful progress in society these days.

Here, I cannot agree with you more. Believe me or not as your own biases might direct you, it was in fifth grade that I first learned about how bias affect our perceptions of reality and what is considered to be true and what is not. It was the most blindingly dramatic bit of information I had ever heard in my young life. That was sixty five years ago.
Now it's my turn to question you. You, it seems to me are willing to suppose numerous things about the nephew based on what, other than general possiblities. Have you ever read about him or his life prior to this book? I hadn't.

Do you make your assumptions about him and his motives based on knowledge of his life or is it just your established beliefs that draw you to those assumptions? You say you have leveled the hammer of guilt on him without knowing anything about him other than he has seriously negative things to say about his uncle.

a reply to: putnam6

That time period that Forbes has him off the list was an expensive time for Trump. During that time he had faced two bankruptcies on his casinos as well as facing two exxpensive divorces. This was also the time period that the changes were made to Fred Sr.s will to cut out Fred Jr.'s family from the will.

a reply to: theatreboy

As I asked, forgivness please.

If you come for debate then please don't try to ''debate'' with no knowledge of what you are debating against as being untrue. Fact is, there are plenty of religious groups that hold that Trump is God's chosen tool to work his Will and fight his Battles.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: theatreboy

As I asked, forgivness please.

If you come for debate then please don't try to ''debate'' with no knowledge of what you are debating against as being untrue. Fact is, there are plenty of religious groups that hold that Trump is God's chosen tool to work his Will and fight his Battles.

Just as there are as many religious groups who feel the same about kamala.

That's also a fact.

So, I actually did come with knowledge.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: xuenchen

Remind me again, which one is the frontrunner for President and which one is begging at the MAGA table for scraps?

So obviously you losers are fine with Harris's disaster economic plan that will destroy the country?

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

it was in fifth grade that I first learned about how bias affect our perceptions of reality

It was in 7th grade our class was forced to learn how to debate. We'd have to give a 'pro' argument one time and then take a 'con' stance on the same subject the next week. I learned a lot about perception and bias in that class, even though I hated debates! lol

Do you make your assumptions about him and his motives based on knowledge of his life

It's not assumption; it's devil's advocate. I didn't read the book, but I do know enough about human behavior to know people always down-play their culpability when things go awry.
So Fred and his father were both considered black sheep? Do we take Fred's word at face value or consider there might be very good reasons fo it?

Maybe Fred is a back stabbing trouble maker? Every family seems to have at least one.

I can imagine RFK Jr. could write the same kind of book about the Kennedy clan. Fred's here-say stories would take a lot more work than I'm willing to do to get to the bottom of how credible he is, and I won't-because I don't care.
If I did care what fred has to say I'd do an in-depth on his life and see what humanitarin efforts he's engaged in. I'd want to know if he was 'aided' in throwing together his defamitory book. I'd want to know why an entire family has singled out just this one line to lable as black sheep-or if they even did. Maybe that's a moniker Fred gave himself?
Don't know; don't care.

I can find a plethora of things to dislike about Trump, but family dirty laundry in book forn isn't something I'm likely to put much consideration in, especially considering how dirty the DNC fights. Thath's a red flag black mark in my book and makes be very suspicious of political shenanigans foot.

PS: Thank you McGoof for you polite, respectful discourse! Much appreciated!

America really is on the precipice.
President Harris.
God help the world.

originally posted by: UKTruth
America really is on the precipice.
President Harris.
God help the world.

No. Not really. Harris is just a duplication of what she did in Summer/Fall of 2019..

Soar-Hover-Crash.

a reply to: nugget1

You as well nug. I appreciate politically suspicious nature and for all that I find we agree upon I am at a loss that we come down on opposite sides if this Trump issue. Maybe that is the real issue, just how we, as cogent individuals can arrive at two polar opposite stances politically.

Heres' to another time to come

Protestor rushes onto the stage.

Due to FEAR and COWARDICE, the woman who wants to be our next President hands him the microphone.

After the protestor is carried off the stage Kamala gives a nervous "thumbs up" sign, to let the audience know she was not hurt badly.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: nugget1

You as well nug. I appreciate politically suspicious nature and for all that I find we agree upon I am at a loss that we come down on opposite sides if this Trump issue. Maybe that is the real issue, just how we, as cogent individuals can arrive at two polar opposite stances politically.

Heres' to another time to come

Bingo, I see Kamala's positions are extreme left with a strong bent towards socialist ideals. Walz has some very frightening, heavy-handed ways of running things, leaning strongly towards authoritarian rule.
Now they're trying to distance themselves from their past over-reaching histroy and cater to moderate liberals, but I'v never believed in the leopard spot-changing store.

Biden's policies favored far too many socialist ideals, and it hasn't worked. I don't believe the excuses as to why it isn't his fault and he couldn't have prevented any of the disasterous things that have lowered the standards of living in our country. H&K would be (IMO) Biden policies on steroids.

I don't know if Trump could or would do any better, but comparing what I know of his ability to lead the country versus H&W I have no other options.

I have to vote against H&W. I believe with all my soul that those two would complete obama's plan to 'fundamentally remake America'.

Like you, I can't understand how anyone could not come to the conclusion that Harris is not qualified to run a country, and should anything happen to her Walz and his abismal record is too frightening to think about should he have to take over the leadership.

I don't believe Harris would be calling the shots anymore than Biden was/is and the best guess as to who is behind the curtain seems to be- or should be-quite obvious. H&K were quite clear on the policies they support, with examples all throughout their careers; it wasn't until running for this office that their pollicies did an about face. I'm not buying it.

I would vote for Pat Paulson again, or maybe Willy Nelson-but this time I think voting against the worst of two evils is absolutely critical. I go with the one that hasn't been draining my savings account, forcing unqualified DEI hires on employers, force parent to change their childs' natural gender, etc., etc. and hope for the best.

And, truthfully I don't understand a mindset that isn't appalled and sickened over left policies and the damage they're doing and have done.

a reply to: nugget1

And, truthfully I don't understand a mindset that isn't appalled and sickened over left policies and the damage they're doing and have done.

100%. The one thing that gets me the most is that people voting for Harris are supporting a party that has not only allowed but also facilitated a record number of women and children to be trafficked into the sex and labor trade. The people voting for Harris are complicit in this dispicable and disgusting action, they’re morally bankrupt to want it to continue. Border czar Harris is the one that refused to do the one job given to her. It’s why I’ll always call bs when a democrat says they care about people because they really don’t.

So some trust fund baby couldn’t get an income to support his family and his rich relative recognised himfor the leech he is and turned him away.

So he wrote a book, or had one written for him, to tell tales and scrounge up some shekels.

Cry me a river.

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: theatreboy

Yes, that is a theory. It's logical I guess, that is if one wants so badly to believe in Trump and, by your reference to the Bible, his divine mission. You believe in that do you? One of the many people who believe the Bible and at the same time believe that a bellicose and belligerent man teetering on the edge of his own psychosis's is the best tool for his Will at this time in this place?

Bellicose and belligerent, I’m no bible scholar but you make him sound like the second coming of John the Baptist.

Isn’t bellicose another way of saying belligerent?

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
Who in their right mind would vote for this? I get it, you hate trump but this? Help me to understand how anyone could vote for her? www.foxnews.com...[/url]

KAMALA's campaign is starting to experience internal explosions!

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