UK police commissioner threatens to extradite US citizens over social media posts

It sounds like they want to reach into other countries and stop people from using their free speech incorrectly.

www.msn.com... ocid=BingNewsSerp

In related news; UK government warns foreigners on expressing Free Speech that may be viewed as violent as deemed a criminal offense.

Just not in the UK.

a reply to: Solvedit

Somebody needs to remind him how it worked out last they tried to force their laws on us.

Am I understanding this correctly ??

Is he saying they will Extradite American citizens to the UK and punish them in the UK for social media post ?

Has he lost his mind ? What are they putting in the 'Tea' over there ?

Now I'm gonna go on Twitter and just start bashing the UK and see how long it takes Scotland yard to show up at my door Maybe he forgot we have guns in America ....

a reply to: Solvedit

To extradite me in my state they would have to use an American Federal authority who would have to ask for the permission of my Sheriff...

Who would laugh and laugh and escort them to the state line.

For their own safety, of course.

What an empty threat... LOL

As a US citizen, I wouldn't be worried. But if I lived in the UK, I would be. According to the article, they are going through social media posts and apparently going after those who post/share images or video of any part of the riots.

Those on the conservative side can thank all those on the liberal/progressive side for the current state of 'freedom' and 'democracy' we now get to so abundantly experience. And just like Venezuela and several other countries, their corruptness gets too big, too powerful to just 'vote' them out and then you get civil chaos. There's literally no other choice but to accept or fight. It's the position many now have been put in because law and justice have no more power.

For those of you who think your state or local cops will save you. They have nothing to do with it.

The US State Department receives requests for extradition from the UK through the British Embassy in Washington.

After reviewing the request, a State Department attorney determines whether it complies with the 2003 Treaty, which serves as the foundation for extradition between the two governments.

In order to meet the treaty's essential requirement, the British request must contain "such information as would provide a reasonable basis to believe that the person sought committed the offence for which extradition is requested."

Requests sent from the US to the UK are exempt from this restriction.

Whether there is "probable cause" to support the request is another thing the Department of Justice looks into.

The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution, which prohibits arrests without "probable cause" by the police, serves as the basis for this test. A suspect may only contest the legality of the request after being taken into custody.

The Secretary of State makes the ultimate decision if the request is found to be legitimate, taking into account human rights concerns such whether the suspect might not receive a fair trial or be subjected to cruel treatment.

US/UK Treaty agreement Chatham House PDF

Extradition treaty with UK at Congress.gov

As a senior on limited income the day may come when I cn no longer afford a home-especially if H & K become the new administration.

How well do they treat you in UK jails?

a reply to: StoutBroux

nd just like Venezuela and several other countries, their corruptness gets too big, too powerful to just 'vote' them out and then you get civil chaos.

Venezuela seems fine enough for President Trump:Donald Trump Says He Will Go to Venezuela if He Loses Election

a reply to: tamusan

You should probably read up on what the actual powers are of a County Sheriff.

In America.

In a state that enforces it.

a reply to: Lumenari

Why don't you simply provide a source that says your sheriff can and will stop the U.S. federal government from taking someone into custody.

As lumenari stated above, anytime the federal law enforcement acts, they must ask the local sheriff for permission.

quote]originally posted by: tamusan
For those of you who think your state or local cops will save you. They have nothing to do with it.

The US State Department receives requests for extradition from the UK through the British Embassy in Washington.

After reviewing the request, a State Department attorney determines whether it complies with the 2003 Treaty, which serves as the foundation for extradition between the two governments.

In order to meet the treaty's essential requirement, the British request must contain "such information as would provide a reasonable basis to believe that the person sought committed the offence for which extradition is requested."

Requests sent from the US to the UK are exempt from this restriction.

Whether there is "probable cause" to support the request is another thing the Department of Justice looks into.

The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution, which prohibits arrests without "probable cause" by the police, serves as the basis for this test. A suspect may only contest the legality of the request after being taken into custody.

The Secretary of State makes the ultimate decision if the request is found to be legitimate, taking into account human rights concerns such whether the suspect might not receive a fair trial or be subjected to cruel treatment.

US/UK Treaty agreement Chatham House PDF

Extradition treaty with UK at Congress.gov

a reply to: bigginpc

As asked above: Source?

a reply to: nugget1

How well do they treat you in UK jails?

England isn’t really known for their cuisine so I’m guessing you’ll lose alot of weight.
I’m now on their extradition list but I’m not that worried because I will probably have to do 5-10 in France first for using “England “ and “cuisine” in the same sentence. 😆

originally posted by: tamusan
For those of you who think your state or local cops will save you. They have nothing to do with it.

The US State Department receives requests for extradition from the UK through the British Embassy in Washington.

After reviewing the request, a State Department attorney determines whether it complies with the 2003 Treaty, which serves as the foundation for extradition between the two governments.

In order to meet the treaty's essential requirement, the British request must contain "such information as would provide a reasonable basis to believe that the person sought committed the offence for which extradition is requested."

Requests sent from the US to the UK are exempt from this restriction.

Whether there is "probable cause" to support the request is another thing the Department of Justice looks into.

The Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution, which prohibits arrests without "probable cause" by the police, serves as the basis for this test. A suspect may only contest the legality of the request after being taken into custody.

The Secretary of State makes the ultimate decision if the request is found to be legitimate, taking into account human rights concerns such whether the suspect might not receive a fair trial or be subjected to cruel treatment.

US/UK Treaty agreement Chatham House PDF

Extradition treaty with UK at Congress.gov

Awww that's cute you think the UK has some sort of power over US Citizens

I recall a War over this several hundred years ago ..... it didn't end so well for you .

I'd say you have bigger fish to fry with the Radical Islamic Mayor in London .....

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I guess we'll see, won't we. I don't care either way. It's really going to come down to whether President Trump is in the White House again or hiding out in Venezuela.

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I guess we'll see, won't we. I don't care either way really.

I'd care .

How many more children are gonna get stabbed in the name of Fanaticism before you guys snap out of it .

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I'm not liberal at all but I also don't care about other people's kids at all either.

By the way, I live in the U.S. and am a U.S. citizen for the time being. My Inverness is not in the UK.

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: Lumenari

Why don't you simply provide a source that says your sheriff can and will stop the U.S. federal government from taking someone into custody.

I live in Montana... a state that has Constitutional sheriffs.

Their power within their county is greater than any Federal authority and even more than the President.

Perhaps you should educate yourself on the powers of a Sheriff as defined by their State.

Here, ATF, DHS and the FBI have to check in with the local sheriff before going on to do what they are doing.

There have been several times in Montana where they have been turned away and escorted to our border.

Because they have no power in our state without our locally elected Sheriff giving them permission.

a reply to: Lumenari

I can't find anything saying your special sheriffs can stop a U.S. Marshall or other Fed from abducting you but I did find this: House kills justice elections bill, 'constitutional sheriff bill ...