Secret Service wants Trump’s campaign to not schedule large outdoor rallies and events

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: FlyersFan

Exactly, the scene was not secure because outdoor spaces is where most political assassinations happen and that is the main reason for failures, not DEI.

But The USSS had the other roofs secured. Why not the roofs a few hundred feet away? 🤣🤣✅

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: FlyersFan

Exactly, the scene was not secure because outdoor spaces is where most political assassinations happen and that is the main reason for failures, not DEI.

But The USSS had the other roofs secured. Why not the roofs a few hundred feet away? 🤣🤣✅

She did say there was 'oversight' but where was the 'oversight' on that other 'oversight'?

originally posted by: quintessentone
Trump agrees it's a bad idea to hold large outdoor rallies.

www.nbcnews.com...

Why can't you quote where Trump said he agrees ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: network dude

But what does that have to do with her being a woman? If this was a white man with the same credentials we would just call it a failure in leadership. But because she's a woman we've got people saying that's it's a failure in leadership because she was a woman.

it doesn't matter if she is a man, woman, pigmy, or a transgender, the person who was in that position failed. No she wasn't responsible for patrolling that rooftop. But she was 100% responsible for managing the people who's job it was to secure that rooftop. (their most important, and most consequential job)

Now the DEI aspect comes in as her hiring strategy. If you base your criteria FIRST about diversity, you exclude the potential best hires, and make your pool of available hires diluted with "DEI" rather than merit, skill, and competence.

If you are hiring a spokesperson, the outward appearance is key. If you are hiring security, the ability to secure is key. There is a large difference, and it's one of life and death. quite literally.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: FlyersFan

She had 24 years experience as a Secret Service agent and two years experience as Pepsi's head of global security.

On paper, which part of her professional history makes her unfit for the job?

One sloped roof.....

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: quintessentone
Trump agrees it's a bad idea to hold large outdoor rallies.

www.nbcnews.com...

Why can't you quote where Trump said he agrees ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If Trump "plans" to stop holding outdoor rallies does it not stand to reason, to you, that he agrees to stop holding outdoor rallies?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: FlyersFan

She had 24 years experience as a Secret Service agent and two years experience as Pepsi's head of global security.

On paper, which part of her professional history makes her unfit for the job?

All it takes is 5 minutes and a payoff with threats and blackmail. The 24 years means zer0 🤣🤣

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: quintessentone
Trump agrees it's a bad idea to hold large outdoor rallies.

www.nbcnews.com...

Why can't you quote where Trump said he agrees ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If Trump "plans" to stop holding outdoor rallies does it not stand to reason, to you, that he agrees to stop holding outdoor rallies?

so now, "stands to reason" is equal to "fact"? I had no idea the rules had changed yet again.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: quintessentone
Trump agrees it's a bad idea to hold large outdoor rallies.

www.nbcnews.com...

Why can't you quote where Trump said he agrees ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If Trump "plans" to stop holding outdoor rallies does it not stand to reason, to you, that he agrees to stop holding outdoor rallies?

so now, "stands to reason" is equal to "fact"? I had no idea the rules had changed yet again.

So are you saying Trump disagrees with holding large outdoor rallies but is forcing himself to because he has no choice, while also saying that he will still hold small outdoor rallies. Where is the critical thinking?

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: quintessentone

No, DEI isn't to blame for ALL of the mistakes made on the 13th, but DEI is to blame for Cheatle's elevation to the position of Director of the Secret Service.

That's how all Directors are advanced within the SS, male or female, and assassination attempts have also been made when a male was the SS Director, so no soap.

At least you are relating to the only Genders on Earth - Man and Woman
What happened to all those others made up to divide We The People ?

Face it


Progress

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: quintessentone
Trump agrees it's a bad idea to hold large outdoor rallies.

www.nbcnews.com...

Why can't you quote where Trump said he agrees ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If Trump "plans" to stop holding outdoor rallies does it not stand to reason, to you, that he agrees to stop holding outdoor rallies?

so now, "stands to reason" is equal to "fact"? I had no idea the rules had changed yet again.

So are you saying Trump disagrees with holding large outdoor rallies but is forcing himself to because he has no choice, while also saying that he will still hold small outdoor rallies. Where is the critical thinking?

so you are saying Trump will manage the country way better than someone placed there because of her skin color and gender?

a reply to: network dude

Of course they will, DEI stands for Definitely Earned It, does it not?

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: network dude

Of course they will, DEI stands for Definitely Earned It, does it not?

Well it does not prove Didn't Earn It without proof, that's reality.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: quintessentone
Trump agrees it's a bad idea to hold large outdoor rallies.

www.nbcnews.com...

Why can't you quote where Trump said he agrees ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If Trump "plans" to stop holding outdoor rallies does it not stand to reason, to you, that he agrees to stop holding outdoor rallies?

so now, "stands to reason" is equal to "fact"? I had no idea the rules had changed yet again.

So are you saying Trump disagrees with holding large outdoor rallies but is forcing himself to because he has no choice, while also saying that he will still hold small outdoor rallies. Where is the critical thinking?

so you are saying Trump will manage the country way better than someone placed there because of her skin color and gender?

Will anyone placed there manage the country for all the people? Doubtful.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

What was to blame for James Rowley's elevation to the position of Director of the Secret Service? What was to blame for him remaining in that position until 1973?

What was to blame for H. Stuart Knight's elevation to the position?

a reply to: quintessentone

Sure, whatever you say princess.

Your regurgitated rhetoric gets quite tiresome to constantly disprove.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: quintessentone

Sure, whatever you say princess.

Your regurgitated rhetoric gets quite tiresome to constantly disprove.

Don't you love it, princess?

a reply to: quintessentone

Easy to disprove but pointless to keep pointing out the obvious to those that ignore reality

Feel free to move on along unless you want to keep up your infatuation with me for some reason

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: xuenchen
Brilliant. So we have a USSS that says this now after they allowed the damage to begin with. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Guess who's still running the USSS? Yup, same people that was running the USSS since Jan 2021.

Evidence is showing the USSS knew the shooter was there before Trump was even on the stage. Explain THAT

The Director did, they identified him as 'suspicious' and not a 'threat'; maybe therein lies the failure.

She never offered proof for who made that determination so quickly. Alarm Bells sounding 🤣🤣🤣🤣

What does it matter who? What matters is whether or not their operational strategies work well in all known and potential (unknown) situations. Perhaps thinking outside their box is what is required.

What does it matter? 🤣🤣🤣 It matters because it failed (or it was a success). This roof was a few hundred feet away from Trump and they knew somebody was there that wasn't supposed to be 🤣🤣🤣🤣

a reply to: quintessentone

Indeed, strategic operations failures, very simple ones to overcome, by a person unqualified for the job.

Got it.

There was simply no excuse. The simple fact that Cheatle even mentioned the roof pitch (slope) at all just SCREAMS inexperience and lack of qualifications, just SCREAMS it. The simple fact she thought this was a reasonable excuse is just unthinkable...especially when she clearly had agents stationed on a roof with more pitch than the roof in question. She clearly thinks people are just stupid. This suggests a more endemic problem within the organization if that's even a consideration at all!

Is roof pitch a training regimen within the SS?? "Thou Shalt wear a safety harness and proper PPE when on any roof other than a flat roof? Thou Shalt place hand-rails in accordance with OSHA regulations on any roof elevated more than 4 feet off the ground? Thou Shalt reduce all personal risk to zero, else thou shalt NOT venture onto said structures?"

Needless to say, I have a "little bit" of a problem with this!!