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originally posted by: yuppa
Yeah.ima send this to the mans family. Enjoy the lawsuit for slandering a dead man.
The possibility that this is what happened still stands. You think Trump doesn't know a guy, who knows a guy, who can make it happen for a price?
originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: asabuvsobelow
No.
I want to see if there is Any photographic or video record of the shooting from the vantage point of someone in the bleachers behind Trump.
So far, we have seen nothing from that POV. And yet, it seems, no one finds that fact questionable.
Even though it is that POV that could/would, categorically, dispel any doubt as to whether Trump was wounded by a gunman bullet, or something that happened while he was on the ground.
From a "conspiracy" standpoint, it matters. Especially if we are being honest with ourselves when we say that we are seeking "the Truth", and not just what we are told is the truth.
ETA:
There was no "Hole", there was a laceration, as confirmed by statements made by both Trump's former physician, and Trump's own son, Eric.
A "laceration" can result from many sources, including, but not limited to, a "graze" by a bullet.
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
Are you just trying to prove a point or what?
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: network dude
Eric Trump is on the record saying his dad only had a laceration on the top of his ear, not a hole. Also that it didn't require stiches and would heal on its own.
originally posted by: network dude
you can argue with the air all you like, but the picture shows a hole. I'm not even sure you could argue with Kodak at this point as digital images have taken them out of the loop. I suppose sky screaming is always an option.
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: network dude
you can argue with the air all you like, but the picture shows a hole. I'm not even sure you could argue with Kodak at this point as digital images have taken them out of the loop. I suppose sky screaming is always an option.
His own son said there isn't a hole, so you can fool yourself into believing you see a hole but even Donald would probably tell you there isn't one.
Neither you or I know, but his son said it was a laceration at the top of the skin of his ear that didn't even need stitches.
Maybe you should look it up?
The bullet track, he said, “produced a 2 cm wide wound that extended down to the cartilaginous surface of the ear. There was initially significant bleeding, followed by marked swelling of the entire upper ear.”
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
Are you just trying to prove a point or what?
The only point I am making is that someone altered that pic and flipped the video of him on the roof to make it look like the shooter was on the other side of the building.
Why would someone go through the trouble?
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
I've spent years shooting in and out of the Military.
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
I've spent years shooting in and out of the Military.
Then you should know that the target doesn't hear the shot until after the bullet hits or misses them.
So this narrative that Trump heard that shot and turned just in time to have the bullet only nick his ear is false.
Besides, the point I was making wasn't about that, it was about why the media was given and put out the altered image and video. Making it seem like the shooter was on the other side of the building.
This is the moment right before Trump reacted to the gunshot. 0.14 seconds was what the bullet would have taken to reach the stage. He was in that position for over .5 seconds. I'm thinking someone caught that and said, we have to make it look like the shooter was on the other side for a nicked ear and not gouging or even penetration of the skull.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: network dude
I never said that he claimed he heard the bullet coming, I said he reacted to the gunshot after his head head was in the position in that pic for enough time for the bullet to have struck him and in that position, from the position the shooter was at it would have caused more damage than a 2cm nick at the top of his ear.