Biden is Out

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
See now, that is Harris' stance that womens' right to make decisions about her body will be her decision not the states.

The people of the states are who 'the states' are.
It's not the government of those states making the laws.
It's the people of those states deciding what the laws should be.
If the people of a state want abortion up to birth ... that's the law of that state.
If the people of a state want abortion banned after 6 weeks gestation ... that's the law of that state.
The PEOPLE make the laws of the state, it's not the state making the laws for the people.

Roe v Wade originally struck down laws in states than banned abortion, those Trump picks got ride of it. Enough said.

no, you need to provide a link showing where you are getting you false information.

What is a constitutional right?

reproductiverights.org...

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
See now, that is Harris' stance that womens' right to make decisions about her body will be her decision not the states.

The people of the states are who 'the states' are.
It's not the government of those states making the laws.
It's the people of those states deciding what the laws should be.
If the people of a state want abortion up to birth ... that's the law of that state.
If the people of a state want abortion banned after 6 weeks gestation ... that's the law of that state.
The PEOPLE make the laws of the state, it's not the state making the laws for the people.

Roe v Wade originally struck down laws in states than banned abortion, those Trump picks got ride of it. Enough said.

no, you need to provide a link showing where you are getting you false information.

What is a constitutional right?

reproductiverights.org...

I have looked and looked, and damned if I can't see the word "abortion" listed in that document anywhere. Could you be a lamb and point it out to me.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If only Congress had ....

If only Biden had left the border alone when he came into office because it was working just fine. But no ... he broke it and left it broke for 3 1/2 years, allowing an invasion of tens of millions of future Democrats to flood the country. Biden only half assed did something to stem the flow at the last minute when it became an election issue.

You keep trying to make it about "future democrats".

That makes sense because you can't provide any proof to back up your claim that Biden was "allowing an invasion of tens of millions" part.

The name calling is another clue that all it ever was is a fact free rant.

Tens of millions indeed.

originally posted by: IDELB2006

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If only Congress had ....

If only Biden had left the border alone when he came into office because it was working just fine. But no ... he broke it and left it broke for 3 1/2 years, allowing an invasion of tens of millions of future Democrats to flood the country. Biden only half assed did something to stem the flow at the last minute when it became an election issue.

You keep trying to make it about "future democrats".

That makes sense because you can't provide any proof to back up your claim that Biden was "allowing an invasion of tens of millions" part.

The name calling is another clue that all it ever was is a fact free rant.

Tens of millions indeed.

How about this one?

homeland.house.gov... -Startling-Stats.pdf

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
See now, that is Harris' stance that womens' right to make decisions about her body will be her decision not the states.

The people of the states are who 'the states' are.
It's not the government of those states making the laws.
It's the people of those states deciding what the laws should be.
If the people of a state want abortion up to birth ... that's the law of that state.
If the people of a state want abortion banned after 6 weeks gestation ... that's the law of that state.
The PEOPLE make the laws of the state, it's not the state making the laws for the people.

That is not correct. It is elected officials who make the laws and they often do not represent the will of the voters.

Look at Texas, doctors now will not perform an abortion on ectopic pregnancies because of their asinine ban on abortion, the same with many other states controlled by the right.


The overwhelming majority of citizens in those states want abortions in cases where a women's life is in danger(ie ectopic pregnancy) and in cases of rape.

a reply to: network dude

You are right, no mention of the word "abortion" but the 14th Amendment does guarantee against state deprivation of liberty—including a right to privacy and to control one’s body.

So, there is that.

originally posted by: IDELB2006

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If only Congress had ....

If only Biden had left the border alone when he came into office because it was working just fine. But no ... he broke it and left it broke for 3 1/2 years, allowing an invasion of tens of millions of future Democrats to flood the country. Biden only half assed did something to stem the flow at the last minute when it became an election issue.

You keep trying to make it about "future democrats".

That makes sense because you can't provide any proof to back up your claim that Biden was "allowing an invasion of tens of millions" part.

The name calling is another clue that all it ever was is a fact free rant.

Tens of millions indeed.

Or this one?

https:/ /www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/immigration/3007611/border-officials-encounter-10-million-migrants-under-biden-september-green/

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66

Aw c'mon, I know you really really wish JOE BIDEN was still the candidate, .....

Not really but whatever you need to sleep soundly at night.

The same abject losers that would vote for Biden, would vote for Harris without even looking at her terrible record.

You guys seem to forget that as VP, Harris was polling at historically low numbers.

As Moon68 hilariously pointed out earlier, she was polling even lower than Dick Cheney after he shot someone.

Putting lipstick on that pig isn’t going to change the fact that she is part of a colossal failures of the Biden regime.

originally posted by: IDELB2006

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Threadbarer
If only Congress had ....

If only Biden had left the border alone when he came into office because it was working just fine. But no ... he broke it and left it broke for 3 1/2 years, allowing an invasion of tens of millions of future Democrats to flood the country. Biden only half assed did something to stem the flow at the last minute when it became an election issue.

You keep trying to make it about "future democrats".

That makes sense because you can't provide any proof to back up your claim that Biden was "allowing an invasion of tens of millions" part.

The name calling is another clue that all it ever was is a fact free rant.

Tens of millions indeed.

Or, feel free to put the extrapolated data in yourself

www.cbp.gov...

a reply to: FlyersFan

Trump is terrified of being prosecuted by Kamala Harris, and her wiping the floor with him during the ABC debate, so he's trying to weasel out.

It's not up to Kamala Harris to put herself in hostile territory, because Trump is a too cowardly to debate on neutral ground, especially since CNN hosts Dana Bash and Jake Tapper were nothing but fair and respectful to Trump, and they gave him every opportunity to say whatever he wanted.

I think you're scared of her too. She's a sexually active, younger woman of color, who supports DEI, the ACA, LGBT rights, women's reproductive rights, affordable childcare and family leave, Ukraine, aide for innocent Gaza Palestinians and higher taxes on billionaires. All the things you despise.

a reply to: jrod

You can’t name one woman in Texas who’s life was in danger that was denied an abortion.

a reply to: RazorV66

"That pig"?

I don't think mysoginst hate rhetoric will play well with women voters.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: network dude

You are right, no mention of the word "abortion" but the 14th Amendment does guarantee against state deprivation of liberty—including a right to privacy and to control one’s body.

So, there is that.

The unborn is a separate body, a unique individual.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RazorV66

"That pig"?

I don't think mysoginst hate rhetoric will play well with women voters.

That’s a shame but I am not running for office.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

If Trump was too scared of Kamala he would just say “I don’t feel like getting shot anymore, I quit”.
His balls are too big and he certainly isn’t scared of any lefty LoL

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: FlyersFan

Trump is terrified of being prosecuted by Kamala Harris, and her wiping the floor with him during the ABC debate, so he's trying to weasel out.

It's not up to Kamala Harris to put herself in hostile territory, because Trump is a too cowardly to debate on neutral ground, especially since CNN hosts Dana Bash and Jake Tapper were nothing but fair and respectful to Trump, and they gave him every opportunity to say whatever he wanted.

I think you're scared of her too. She's a sexually active, younger woman of color, who supports DEI, the ACA, LGBT rights, women's reproductive rights, affordable childcare and family leave, Ukraine, aide for innocent Gaza Palestinians and higher taxes on billionaires. All the things you despise.

All identity politics, that’s all the Liberal have.

You’ll be crying a different tune when she has 25 word salad moments in the debate that will have you wishing Biden was back in it.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: network dude

You are right, no mention of the word "abortion" but the 14th Amendment does guarantee against state deprivation of liberty—including a right to privacy and to control one’s body.

So, there is that.

AMENDMENT XIV

Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5.
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

www.archives.gov...#:~:text=No%20State%20shall%20make%20or,equal%20protection%20of%20the%20laws.

can you show me where it says that?

eta:
LOL, looking at this, it almost solidifies the SCOTUS decision.

nor shall any State deprive any person of life

Depriving of life, like killing them. I'd say if this argument is used, it might make a case for a national abortion ban.