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originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: quintessentone
If it's truly "strong ", you'd listen to opposition. Otherwise, you're just repeating what you see and hear.
Critical thinking starts with digesting opposing arguments and making your own determination, based on your current education (not necessarily formal).
originally posted by: quintessentone
My devotion to combating mis- and dis-information and just plain old BS is strong.
originally posted by: SourGrapes
a reply to: quintessentone
I think you view arguing here, with members, is the same as listening to opposing views. It's not.
Listen to one episode of Bongino and I'll agree to listen to any one of your choices.
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., wrote on X Friday that “whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service. “DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel,” he added, posting a letter he sent today to United States Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas. “Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office. According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner,” Hawley wrote. “Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s security perimeter.”
“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations,”
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: quintessentone
This is looking to be one of the biggest fails ever in the history of the USSS.
Just in….
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., wrote on X Friday that “whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service. “DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel,” he added, posting a letter he sent today to United States Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas. “Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office. According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner,” Hawley wrote. “Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s security perimeter.”
“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations,”
www.foxnews.com...
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
My devotion to combating mis- and dis-information and just plain old BS is strong.
Nope. If it were you would be using common sense, and you wouldn't be sucked into the DEI cult.
I doubt they’ll be heard Mon but they will eventually be heard. It always takes time to organize a hearing with whistleblowers. But…who knows. It sounds like there’s a few and I highly doubt that they’re full of # if they’re coming forward.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: quintessentone
This is looking to be one of the biggest fails ever in the history of the USSS.
Just in….
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., wrote on X Friday that “whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service. “DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel,” he added, posting a letter he sent today to United States Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas. “Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office. According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner,” Hawley wrote. “Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s security perimeter.”
“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations,”
www.foxnews.com...
If that is true then we will hear from the whistleblowers in Monday's investigative hearing.
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
I doubt they’ll be heard Mon but they will eventually be heard. It always takes time to organize a hearing with whistleblowers. But…who knows. It sounds like there’s a few and I highly doubt that they’re full of # if they’re coming forward.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: quintessentone
This is looking to be one of the biggest fails ever in the history of the USSS.
Just in….
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., wrote on X Friday that “whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service. “DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel,” he added, posting a letter he sent today to United States Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas. “Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office. According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner,” Hawley wrote. “Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s security perimeter.”
“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations,”
www.foxnews.com...
If that is true then we will hear from the whistleblowers in Monday's investigative hearing.
SS director needs to be fired immediately. It’s the SS sole job and they dictate everything when it comes to security for a prez. They have the last word period. They f’d up hardcore.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
My devotion to combating mis- and dis-information and just plain old BS is strong.
Nope. If it were you would be using common sense, and you wouldn't be sucked into the DEI cult.
So the female SS agent, Eric Trump, and the SS itself don't have common sense, is that your stance?
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
I doubt they’ll be heard Mon but they will eventually be heard. It always takes time to organize a hearing with whistleblowers. But…who knows. It sounds like there’s a few and I highly doubt that they’re full of # if they’re coming forward.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: quintessentone
This is looking to be one of the biggest fails ever in the history of the USSS.
Just in….
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., wrote on X Friday that “whistleblowers tell me that MOST of Trump’s security detail working the event last Saturday were not even Secret Service. “DHS assigned unprepared and inexperienced personnel,” he added, posting a letter he sent today to United States Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas. “Whistleblowers who have direct knowledge of the event have approached my office. According to the allegations, the July 13 rally was considered to be a ‘loose’ security event. For example, detection canines were not used to monitor entry and detect threats in the usual manner,” Hawley wrote. “Individuals without proper designations were able to gain access to backstage areas. Department personnel did not appropriately police the security buffer around the podium and were also not stationed at regular intervals around the event’s security perimeter.”
“In addition, whistleblower allegations suggest the majority of DHS officials were not in fact USSS agents but instead drawn from the department’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). This is especially concerning given that HSI agents were unfamiliar with standard protocols typically used at these types of events, according to the allegations,”
www.foxnews.com...
If that is true then we will hear from the whistleblowers in Monday's investigative hearing.
SS director needs to be fired immediately. It’s the SS sole job and they dictate everything when it comes to security for a prez. They have the last word period. They f’d up hardcore.
I hope they are heard Monday and I agree they f'd up hardcore.
originally posted by: KrustyKrab
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
My devotion to combating mis- and dis-information and just plain old BS is strong.
Nope. If it were you would be using common sense, and you wouldn't be sucked into the DEI cult.
So the female SS agent, Eric Trump, and the SS itself don't have common sense, is that your stance?
Eric Trump is not a security expert genius and we’re learning more everyday that the SS is a keystone cop skit gone bad, just stop already.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
That must be SS to know SS comment ....
You don't have to be Secret Service to know that there was a massive security failure in Butler. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls were too short to do the job. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls at the car didn't know what the hell they were doing. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls were playing with their sunglasses and tugging on their blazers to look good and they were flipping pony tails and were in a PANIC while loading Trump into the vehicle.
My god man ... get real.
Opinions from feelz are not facts.
Not even from MSNBC and Morning Mika ? 😃
The facts coming from Monday's investigative hearing will show the truth.
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
That must be SS to know SS comment ....
You don't have to be Secret Service to know that there was a massive security failure in Butler. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls were too short to do the job. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls at the car didn't know what the hell they were doing. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls were playing with their sunglasses and tugging on their blazers to look good and they were flipping pony tails and were in a PANIC while loading Trump into the vehicle.
My god man ... get real.
Opinions from feelz are not facts.
Not even from MSNBC and Morning Mika ? 😃
The facts coming from Monday's investigative hearing will show the truth.
Assuming Director Cheatle shows up and doesn't refuse to answer or diverts from any questions. 😀
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: SourGrapes
Now there's SS whistleblower reports that most of the agents on Trump's detail on Saturday were not even SS.
They were random DHS agents. No wonder it was a goat rope.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: xuenchen
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: FlyersFan
originally posted by: quintessentone
That must be SS to know SS comment ....
You don't have to be Secret Service to know that there was a massive security failure in Butler. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls were too short to do the job. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls at the car didn't know what the hell they were doing. You don't have to be Secret Service to know that those little girls were playing with their sunglasses and tugging on their blazers to look good and they were flipping pony tails and were in a PANIC while loading Trump into the vehicle.
My god man ... get real.
Opinions from feelz are not facts.
Not even from MSNBC and Morning Mika ? 😃
The facts coming from Monday's investigative hearing will show the truth.
Assuming Director Cheatle shows up and doesn't refuse to answer or diverts from any questions. 😀
Then I see a subpoena in her future.