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why ukraine should not be innocent
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Some would argue Russia has historic claims to this land. To which we could then evaluate Kaliningrad, Manchuria, Kuril Islands along with other territory that wasn’t theirs before WWII.
The problem with Russia is they gave up the land in 1992 as an independent country, and now Putin says my bad?
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Ukraine has been a deep state cesspool for some time now. Labs developing bio weapons along with the "children" of Pelosi, Romney and Biden siphoning money ostensibly doing "business" in Ukraine. Zelensky is currently leading Ukraine as an unelected tyrant, suspending any elections and democracy in Ukraine yet we are being sold the lie that the support for Ukraine is in the name of saving democracy. The hundreds of billions of dollars has been unaccounted for no real bookkeeping or auditing going on. Our populace got into a place where we are lied and tricked by the msm and our politicians. Americans and more broadly the world have been sucked into a massive psyop, a false reality that has been created and we are all struggling to parse the mis and disinformation to make sense of it all. These are truly troubling times, all of the false narratives and psychological warefare is coming to a head.
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Obama let Putin cross a "red" line and take Crimea and the weakness of Biden, visible to the world, signaled to Putin that he could take Ukraine. American leadership is not what it used to be, the world needs a leading nation, I hope and pray the USA steps up and regains its leadership role.
The hundreds of billions of dollars has been unaccounted for- False
Ukraine says corrupt officials stole $40 million meant to buy arms for the war
US did not properly track more than $1 billion worth of weapons sent to Ukraine, watchdog report finds
Kyiv — From cholera to anthrax, Ukraine's Virology Reference Laboratory in Kyiv has housed some of the most infectious diseases known to humankind. Dr. Natalia Vidayko, the lab's chief researcher, led us through a maze of white walls and stainless steel equipment. Researchers in lab coats hovered over petri dishes, each containing genetic samples of diseases sent in for analysis.
On February 27, three days after President Vladimir Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine, Russian officials claimed one reason they did it was because the U.S. was "filling Ukraine with biolabs, which were — very possibly — used to study methods for destroying the Russian people at the genetic level."
Ukraine oligarch ‘top cash contributor’ to Clinton Foundation prior to Kiev crisis
Nancy Pelosi's son Paul Pelosi Jr. (who went to Ukraine in 2017) was a board member of Viscoil and executive at its related company NRGLab, which DID ENERGY Business in UKRAINE! And Nancy Pelosi appeared in a promotional video for the company!
US intel, Romney figure joined board of Ukraine gas company: Burisma
Victoria Nuland, third-highest ranking US diplomat and critic of Russia’s war in Ukraine, retiring
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Kyiv — From cholera to anthrax, Ukraine's Virology Reference Laboratory in Kyiv has housed some of the most infectious diseases known to humankind. Dr. Natalia Vidayko, the lab's chief researcher, led us through a maze of white walls and stainless steel equipment. Researchers in lab coats hovered over petri dishes, each containing genetic samples of diseases sent in for analysis.
Nancy Pelosi's son Paul Pelosi Jr. (who went to Ukraine in 2017) was a board member of Viscoil and executive at its related company NRGLab, which DID ENERGY Business in UKRAINE! And Nancy Pelosi appeared in a promotional video for the company!
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
performing bioengineering that would never be allowed in any civilized country.
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Ukraine oligarch ‘top cash contributor’ to Clinton Foundation prior to Kiev crisis
Nancy Pelosi's son Paul Pelosi Jr. (who went to Ukraine in 2017) was a board member of Viscoil and executive at its related company NRGLab, which DID ENERGY Business in UKRAINE! And Nancy Pelosi appeared in a promotional video for the company!
US intel, Romney figure joined board of Ukraine gas company: Burisma
Why is this a problem? The US helped update, convert, and secure 20+ labs there after the USSR fell that were older USSR labs.
level 2 bio labs my arse
The World Health Organization has advised officials in Ukraine to destroy any high-risk pathogens housed in public health laboratories in order to prevent their release amid the Russian onslaught, according to a report by Reuters.
worried Russia may sieze level 2 labs? really?
Victoria Nuland: Ukraine Has "Biological Research Facilities," Worried Russia May Seize Them
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
The US didn't help, they created/retrofitted the labs to do research that would not be permited here in the US.
Our deepstate will do elsewhere when prohibited to do in the US. If it was level 2 why all the secrecy? Victoria Nulan along with the State Department denied the labs existed for some time before admitting then shortly after Victoria Nulan resigned or retired.
C'mon man, you have to be able to connect the dots here. This is not a democrat or republican issue nor is it a Trump or Biden issue. I love my country but we are in cahoots with Ukraine who have recieved billions in "aid" before the Russian invasion, they even fired prosecutors when Biden threatened to not give them a billion in "aid" on one trip he made to Ukraine as VP, just for investigating Burisma and his son. "If you don't fire the prosecutor no money". You saw that, right? These things are all related. They impeached Trump for simply asking Zelensky to look into things and find out if any shannanigans are going on. You really have to try too hard to say, your words, Why do people like you go to such lengths in pushing a point on some massive Hyperbolizing of the truth?
When the US has developed 20+ secret bio labs
originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: joy36k
Russia had more of a valid reason to invade Ukraine than the US had for invading Iraq.
There had been agreements for 30 years that NATO would not expand to countries that bordered Russia.
Then in Feb 2022 the VP of the US said that we would make Ukraine a NATO member.
This of course followed the 37 bio-weapons labs the DOD was operating in Ukraine.
And don't forget the US staged a coup in 2014 that installed a US puppet as the Ukrainian President.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
performing bioengineering that would never be allowed in any civilized country.
Like what?
U.S. halts funding for new risky virus studies, calls for voluntary moratorium
U.S. scientists brace for tighter scrutiny of potentially risky research
Expert panel recommends stricter reviews of research involving pathogens or toxins that could have “dual use”
originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Just like they did in Wuhan. Did you not know that we were lied to in regards to the 3rd party funding at Wuhan? You are free to believe the false narritives all you want. It will never be spelled out. The governement and evil doers will never say, "ok, you got me. It was all a lie." We will never be told the truth, we have to pry it out of them and even then the lawyers muddy everything up and stretch it all out for years. I have provided enough data points in my prior replies for you to connect the dots, its up to you.