Trumps sentencing postponed until sept 18 HAHA

a reply to: Degradation33

I visit Wisconsin regularly and rarely see Democrat signage, or hear Democrats on talk-radio.

I'm totally stumped by how they have a Democrat governor and vote 50/50 Repub/Dem.

originally posted by: EndTime

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: EndTime
a reply to: pennylane123

Echo…Echo…Echo…

Not surprising given the SCOTUS ruling.

Interesting precedent set. Who knows what could happen with the current administration, the next or the next.

Interesting that you consider what just happened a precedent.

All it actually was is a reaffirmation of Presidential powers under our existing Constitution..

No laws were made, nothing changed...

The same protections that the SCOTUS pointed out applied to Trump also applied to the 44 Presidents before him.

Change your news sources please.

Do you think we will see democrats setting up alternate electors and stage peaceful demonstration inside Congress during the certification process next year?

And that has exactly what to do with the SCOTUS decision?

And for the record, I think we will see mass demonstrations (the mostly peaceful kind) and a whole lot of cities on fire if Trump wins.

You know, like the last time.

I see you have bought into Pelosi's attempt to frame Trump and his voters though.

Again, please change your news sources.

Because if I want to know what you think, I'll just tune into the View for 10 minutes.

Which saves me some typing here.

a reply to: VariedcodeSole

IF the goal of the Democratic party (and some Republican plants) is to turn America into a socialist nation they've made great strides towards that end in the last few decades, and it looks like they're nearing their goal. They've come way too far to give up the fight now; all of the gloves are going to come off, and a politician will lie, cheat and steal their way to victory.

What stuns me the most is nearly 4 years of a president who completely ignores the laws of our countery and rules as a dictator, yet his base choose to wilfully ignore the facts.

We still have reasonably intelegent people right here on ATS carriying water for Biden, for gawds sake.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: pennylane123


Merchan is just using the Supreme Court Decision on Presidential Immunity as an excuse to save himself from hell next year. Trump was not President when he paid Stormy Daniels to lay low.

Ah , Lets set the Record Straight about the FACTS in this Stormy Case shall we ? Mr. Trump was Shaken Down by a Professional Prostitute (Actress) by Her Own Admission . He then Denied the Allegation and his Now Confirmed Lying Scumbag Lawyer at the Time Michael Cohen was the one who Paid her $100,000 to go Away without Mr. Trump's knowledge at the time . She then did not Shut Her Mouth as a Condition of getting that Money from Cohen and was subsequently Sued by DJT when he found out , and then fought and Won the case against her . Seems like there may never have been any Sex in this FAKE Scandal to begin with and Stormy eventually had to make a Sworn Statement in Writing to that Fact .

a reply to: Lumenari

The decision has allowed for, or rather reinforced a greater level of defence if a president decides to order generally illegal actions.

It also allows for a distinction between for official versus non official acts as it relates to immunity.

What news sources? You are being repetitive.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Heard (havent looked it up) 19 states and 2 of them battle ground states have passed the point of no return and as long as biden is alive and says he is running his name stays on the ballot.

They are in a crack of their own making.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: pennylane123

So now election, right? No needless ankle monitors or calls for regicide just yet.

This is good, the witch hunt is on hiatus during some crucial parts of the campaign. Now the focus can be on Biden floundering in carotene and Trump taking liberties with reality.

As of know Trump is running and winning, regardless of Sep 18th. Biden is shooting albatross thinking he's at the county fair duck booth, and will be until they realize the unwinnable corner they are backed into.

All swing states are tied or leaning Trump. Every one.

www.270towin.com...

Virginia = Tie
Pennsylvania = 2.4%
Michigan = 1%
Texas = 6%
Wisconsin (flipped) = 0.5%
Georgia = 4.8%
Arizona = 4.6%
Florida = 6.3%
North Carolina = 4.8%
Ohio = 7.5%

236 does not win. Biden supporters are likely more concerned about his chances, than Trump not going to jail. And he probably never will to chagrin of haters. The DNC indecision or reluctance to switch choices makes it all that much easier now.

Only a dark horse is saving the Democrat Party on this one. Swing states are trending far away from democrat comfort.

Biden's faltering is killing the Dems all down the ballot, thats the DNC''s real concern but

Forget the politics for a moment, the odds of this happening after the Mar a Lago raid 2 years ago were astronomical. It's almost as if they made Trump's campaign stronger by all the indictments. The indictments and hassles gave him publicity and a forum for free, if the Dems were smart they would have left him alone. Hell, it couldn't have turned out worse for them which makes you question DNC's leadership, if they screwed the pooch on this what else are they missing.

The question who is the dark horse? Gavin would be stupid to walk away from Cali for an emergency Save our Chances campaign

let's remember they have till the end of August to decide if they want a different candidate than Biden in Ohio. The DNC new candidate would have to be a write-in, so unless it's Harris they can write off Ohio and since they are down there a lot any way they might just sacrifice it, and roll with who?

To come in so late is a huge disadvantage, anybody who has future aspirations would be advised to sit 2024 out, as it is likely a loss, and nothing good publicity-wise can come from that.

For Biden to win he needs to do a full-court press and actual campaign in the next 5 months, thats not likely either.

a reply to: Irishhaf

Serves them right.

I didn’t know one person who was a Biden supporter in 2020.

The people who I knew who said they were going to vote for him said they were holding their nose.

So if that’s the case it gave them four years to find someone their party could get behind and they didn’t.

They screwed their own base for three cycles in a row. Democrats can blame their own party if they’re upset when Trump wins.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: EndTime

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: EndTime
a reply to: pennylane123

Echo…Echo…Echo…

Not surprising given the SCOTUS ruling.

Interesting precedent set. Who knows what could happen with the current administration, the next or the next.

Interesting that you consider what just happened a precedent.

All it actually was is a reaffirmation of Presidential powers under our existing Constitution..

No laws were made, nothing changed...

The same protections that the SCOTUS pointed out applied to Trump also applied to the 44 Presidents before him.

Change your news sources please.

Do you think we will see democrats setting up alternate electors and stage peaceful demonstration inside Congress during the certification process next year?

And that has exactly what to do with the SCOTUS decision?

And for the record, I think we will see mass demonstrations (the mostly peaceful kind) and a whole lot of cities on fire if Trump wins.

You know, like the last time.

I see you have bought into Pelosi's attempt to frame Trump and his voters though.

Again, please change your news sources.

Because if I want to know what you think, I'll just tune into the View for 10 minutes.

Which saves me some typing here.

FWIW the fear of chaos if Trump wins is all the ammo the Democrats have left, but after missing on all the other attempts to derail Trump who will still write checks to finance it? there's a chance the GP has had enough of that BS, especially considering the lukewarm results.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Irishhaf

Serves them right.

I didn’t know one person who was a Biden supporter in 2020.

The people who I knew who said they were going to vote for him said they were holding their nose.

So if that’s the case it gave them four years to find someone their party could get behind and they didn’t.

They screwed their own base for three cycles in a row. Democrats can blame their own party if they’re upset when Trump wins.

I agree

Trump wouldn't have mattered at all if the Biden admin had an effective 4 years.

TPTB put too much time, energy, and money into knocking him out, which makes me wonder about their thought-processing and problem-solving abilities, which are particularly crucial for the country domestically and internationally

Juan Merchan is not even American; the f*cker was born in Columbia.

The ''real'' American speaks.

originally posted by: TheSemiskepticII

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: pennylane123


Merchan is just using the Supreme Court Decision on Presidential Immunity as an excuse to save himself from hell next year. Trump was not President when he paid Stormy Daniels to lay low.

Yes he was, The checks were written in 2017.

I thought dictators didn't pay people off. They bump people off.

originally posted by: xuenchen
He may actually be immune because the alleged crime(s) happened in 2017 I think, and were connected to official business "at the time". 😊

Good grief....You're right!: www.politico.com...

I thought the payments were derived from the campaign fund, which was/is illegal to do.

Am I suffering early stages of Joe's disease?

a reply to: chr0naut

Yes, Merchan is known for being above board lol. Like failing to recuse himself after his daughter received 10 mil fron the Biden administration and then wants to legally bind the defendant from even mentioning it. Totally ethical in every way.

a reply to: EndTime

If it's anything like France, or 2020, we'll see fewer grandma's wondering around the halls of congress and more cities burnt to the ground. Cant imagine you own a small business that would be destroyed along with your lifelong investment, so here's hoping you live in a mostly peaceful democratic urban stronghold.

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: EndTime

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: EndTime
a reply to: pennylane123

Echo…Echo…Echo…

Not surprising given the SCOTUS ruling.

Interesting precedent set. Who knows what could happen with the current administration, the next or the next.

Interesting that you consider what just happened a precedent.

All it actually was is a reaffirmation of Presidential powers under our existing Constitution..

No laws were made, nothing changed...

The same protections that the SCOTUS pointed out applied to Trump also applied to the 44 Presidents before him.

Change your news sources please.

Do you think we will see democrats setting up alternate electors and stage peaceful demonstration inside Congress during the certification process next year?

And for the record, I think we will see mass demonstrations (the mostly peaceful kind) and a whole lot of cities on fire if Trump wins.

You know, like the last time.

I went through Ferguson Missouri (St Louis suburb) after Obama/Holder stoked a riot there. Mostly Black. Mostly burnt. Stupid people who burned their own local businesses to the ground.

Why do they only focus on voter fraud in swing states. They don't seem to look at the states that they say are Democrat or Republican or the big cities within those Republican states where all the votes are going to the democrats.

The Democrats always seem to bring up the fact that the majority of the people are in those big cities, they should actually look at the security everywhere, not just in the swing states. We should look for fraud everywhere not just in swing states, that will give us a real view of how many people actually support a candidate.

a reply to: rickymouse

You also only focus on division and not unity...NOT UNITED states.

originally posted by: TheSemiskepticII

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: pennylane123


Merchan is just using the Supreme Court Decision on Presidential Immunity as an excuse to save himself from hell next year. Trump was not President when he paid Stormy Daniels to lay low.

Yes he was, The checks were written in 2017.

The alleged crime happened in 2006. A little bit before Barron Trump was born.