Looks Like a Global Red Tide ..

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal. Right-wing governments will implement new laws to tighten-up border security. It is a primary point of their political platform.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be a realist about the what right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be realist about the right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

Hopefully we'll shut down immigration and take care of our own citizens for awhile.

Too drastic?

a reply to: MykeNukem

The trend towards the Right is continuing.

Not in The U.K.

Labour are predicted to get a HUGE majority in 2 days time. The Conservatives face a total wipe out.

x.com...

a reply to: chr0naut

As per usual here you are bemoaning other nations from your "island." Pun intended.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: MykeNukem

The trend towards the Right is continuing.

Not in The U.K.

Labour are predicted to get a HUGE majority in 2 days time. The Conservatives face a total wipe out.

x.com...

Sorry to hear that.

Red Tide (Remastered)

Far right is now anything half a step away from extreme left. Just another slur from the fascist left.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be realist about the right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

Hopefully we'll shut down immigration and take care of our own citizens for awhile.

Too drastic?

Your government has no mandate to interfere in other sovereign countries and has been taking care of its own citizens, for both good and bad. Cutting immigration won't stop governmental corruption, mismanagement, or overreach.

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Right-wing government is smaller because it centralizes wealth and power into an elite, and the enforcement of 'new' laws to conform to what they decide are acceptable norms, reduces the freedom in general. Remember that they have a legacy of implementing regulations many times that led to genocide.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

As per usual here you are bemoaning other nations from your "island." Pun intended.

I would guess that you feel your over-the-top fear of other nationalities is officially endorsed.



The truth is that on our little islands, we have elected a right-wing and far-right coalition government, in a hope that they would concentrate on the financial issues post-covid.

Their first official act was to legislate to remove Māori alternate names from government departments, more money poured into futile and costly politicking - fu#k!

I am fairly sure that they wouldn't be elected again if another election was held, but how do you remove people who want power more than good governance?

They are currently trying to legislate to remove the Māori rolls, which will, in effect, stifle the voice of the pre-European inhabitants of these islands. And don't get me started on how they are trying to quash co-governance. They have betrayed their promises for their own agendas.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be realist about the right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

Hopefully we'll shut down immigration and take care of our own citizens for awhile.

Too drastic?

Your government has no mandate to interfere in other sovereign countries and has been taking care of its own citizens, for both good and bad. Cutting immigration won't stop governmental corruption, mismanagement, or overreach.

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Right-wing government is smaller because it centralizes wealth and power into an elite, and the enforcement of 'new' laws to conform to what they decide are acceptable norms, reduces the freedom in general. Remember that they have a legacy of implementing regulations many times that led to genocide.

What are you on about now?

Right-wing? LMFAO

We don't want "new" laws, the one's we have will do just fine, so long as they are enforced.

How many people walked across the border into New Zealand last year?

FFS LOL

originally posted by: chr0naut

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Once the numbers of illegal entries reach a certain
point, this may or may not be true.

However, being as this was the goal in the first place,
to overwhelm the system; which we know by now that
it was, you shouldn't try so hard to shroud your talking
points. Its pretty much accepted now to just say
"I'm a socialist who works for the demise of national
sovereignty" blah blah or something similar.

a reply to: MykeNukem

I work for a First Nations group.

Many of the reserves in Canada don’t have fresh drinking water or adequate housing.

Then there are just the regular families and single moms just barely getting by.

However, a refugee can be entitled to the below….

(Sorry for the long quote but I think this is important)

Here are the details of the income assistance Program:

1. Furniture Allowance (G/L 59001)

Furniture allowance is provided one-time only to take care of:

Tables and chairs
Loveseat and sofa
Beds and dresser
The local IRCC will determine if this allowance will be provided through funds given to the new immigrants to:

Buy the furniture or
Through a standing offer with a supplier or
A combination of both (hybrid models).
Here are maximum allowance rates for one-time furniture:

Single without accompanying dependants – $1,550
Single with one dependants – $2,440
Single with two dependants – $2,880
Couple without accompanying dependants – $2,280
Couple with one dependant – $2,560
Couple with two dependants – $3,185
Couple with three dependants – $3,885
For each additional dependant – $420
2. Linens Allowance (G/L 59001)

Linens allowance is provided one-time only. Suggested items include:

Towels
Bed linens such as blankets and sheet sets.
The local IRCC will determine if linens allowance will be provided through funds given to the new immigrants to:

Buy the furniture or
Through a standing offer with a supplier or
A combination of both (hybrid models).
Linens allowance rates are:

A single immigrant – $80
A family of 2 – $160
A family of 3 –$240
A family of 4 –$320
A family of 5 –$400
A family of 6 –$480
Each additional dependant – $80
3. Basic Household Needs Allowance ( G/L 59001)

New Canadian immigrants are provided with a one –time basic household needs allowance to cover:

Common household products like mops, brooms, pans, pots, and kitchen utensils.
Basic window coverings and
Other furniture items such as coffee tables, lamps etc.
The maximum allowable rates are:

Family of 1- $600
Family of 2- $650
Family of 3- $700
Family of 4 – $750
Family of 5 –$800
Family of 6 –$850
Each additional dependant –$50
4. Staple Allowance (G / L 59001)

New refugees get a one-time staple allowance to set up a household with cleaning supplies and basic food. Below are staple allowance rates:

Single individual – $210
Family of 2- $300
Family of 3 –$390
Family of 4 –$480
Family of 5 –$570
Family of 6 –$660
Each additional dependant –$90
5. Utility Installation Allowance ( G/L 59001)

This is a one-time utility allowance of $75 which includes services such as:

Internet / telephone connection fees
Hook-up / installation of utilities (electricity, gas, water).
6. School Start-up Allowance ( G/ L 59001, Second Installment if applicable)

A school Start-up allowance of $150 is provided to school children and young adults between the ages of 4 and 17 attending provincial schools (K-12), to defray cost for gym clothing and school supplies.

This allowance does not apply for those enrolled in English as a Second Language (ESL) or Language Instruction for Newcomers to Canada (LINC) related classes.

Young adults between the ages of 8-12, with demonstrated proof that they are enrolled in Secondary School full time may qualify for School Start-up allowance.

7. Transportation Allowance (G/L 59003)

A monthly transport allowance is provided based on the cost of monthly transportation in that community. This is determined based on the needs of the refugee.

In areas where public transportation is not allowed, a maximum rate of $75 is provided. Typically, only refugees who are 18 or older are eligible to receive a transportation allowance.

8. Communication Allowance (G/L 59003)

A monthly allowance of $30 is provided to enable families maintain a basic service for school, employment-related uses, and emergencies. Communication allowance is only given to cover basic needs and other costs such as phone and internet plans, long distance telephone calls etc.

9. Maternity- related Allowances

a. Maternity Food Allowance (G/L 59003)

This monthly allowance of $75 is issued once it is confirmed that the refugee is pregnant. The letter is usually issued by the doctor or nurse practitioner.

b. Maternity Clothing Allowance ( G/L 59007)

Once pregnancy is confirmed by the doctor or nurse practitioner, The IRCC officer will approve a one-time payment of $200 to cover the purchase of maternity clothing.

10. Newborn Allowance (GL 59007)

Once the doctor or nurse practitioner confirms pregnancy and due date, the IRCC officer will approve a one-time payment of $750 to cover the purchase of items for the baby. This allowance is usually administered 2 months to the due date.

11. Funeral Expenses (G/L 59007)

If a newcomer or the dependent of a refugee dies while on transit in Canada or already in Canada, the IRCC RAP officers will first evaluate the potential sources of the funeral expenditure such as life insurance, individual’s assets, or family members.

Funeral expenses including cremation shouldn’t exceed the established territorial or provincial social assistance rates.

tudorhouseconsulting.com...

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be realist about the right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

Hopefully we'll shut down immigration and take care of our own citizens for awhile.

Too drastic?

Your government has no mandate to interfere in other sovereign countries and has been taking care of its own citizens, for both good and bad. Cutting immigration won't stop governmental corruption, mismanagement, or overreach.

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Right-wing government is smaller because it centralizes wealth and power into an elite, and the enforcement of 'new' laws to conform to what they decide are acceptable norms, reduces the freedom in general. Remember that they have a legacy of implementing regulations many times that led to genocide.

What are you on about now?

Right-wing? LMFAO

We don't want "new" laws, the one's we have will do just fine, so long as they are enforced.

Yeah, right:

Four Years of Profound Change: Immigration Policy during the Trump Presidency

How many people walked across the border into New Zealand last year?

FFS LOL

There were 340,300 entries of non-New Zealanders in the year up to March 2024. Most of them from Australia, China and the USA (in that order). Being Islands a long way from most other large land masses, they all arrived via official ports of entry, as far as I know.

It is not possible to walk here. But I suppose it is possible for people to stow away on ships or aircraft?

Are you concerned only with those who walk into your country?

originally posted by: burntheships

originally posted by: chr0naut

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Once the numbers of illegal entries reach a certain
point, this may or may not be true.

However, being as this was the goal in the first place,
to overwhelm the system; which we know by now that
it was, you shouldn't try so hard to shroud your talking
points. Its pretty much accepted now to just say
"I'm a socialist who works for the demise of national
sovereignty" blah blah or something similar.

Your economy is all the people buying and selling stuff. Each of these potential immigrants will buy and sell stuff within US borders. If they are blocked from the country, they cannot contribute to the economy.

If they order stuff, say, from the US into foreign countries, they will drain the US economy of resources that would otherwise stay in-country.

Add that to the un-recoupable costs of enforcement, it is not to the advantage of the USA.

A truly wise administration would monetize immigration to the advantage of the country without compromising ethical principals of human rights and dignity.

a reply to: chr0naut

Tossing principle aside, perhaps, perhaps not.

Your talking points are only useful if one considers
a one generational advantage/disadvantage.

In case you haven't realized it (surely you have)
this is war. There are hundreds of years to recoup
the cost of repelling illegal invaders.

Additionally it should be a policy to recoup
losses from countries responsible for such invasions.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be realist about the right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

Hopefully we'll shut down immigration and take care of our own citizens for awhile.

Too drastic?

Your government has no mandate to interfere in other sovereign countries and has been taking care of its own citizens, for both good and bad. Cutting immigration won't stop governmental corruption, mismanagement, or overreach.

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Right-wing government is smaller because it centralizes wealth and power into an elite, and the enforcement of 'new' laws to conform to what they decide are acceptable norms, reduces the freedom in general. Remember that they have a legacy of implementing regulations many times that led to genocide.

What are you on about now?

Right-wing? LMFAO

We don't want "new" laws, the one's we have will do just fine, so long as they are enforced.

Are you concerned only with those who walk into your country?

No. They can all take a hike. Walk, crawl, run, drive, fly, etc..

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: MykeNukem

I work for a First Nations group.

Many of the reserves in Canada don’t have fresh drinking water or adequate housing.

Then there are just the regular families and single moms just barely getting by.

However, a refugee can be entitled to the below….

(Sorry for the long quote but I think this is important)

Here are the details of the income assistance Program:

1. Furniture Allowance (G/L 59001)

Furniture allowance is provided one-time only to take care of:

Tables and chairs
Loveseat and sofa
Beds and dresser
The local IRCC will determine if this allowance will be provided through funds given to the new immigrants to:

Buy the furniture or
Through a standing offer with a supplier or
A combination of both (hybrid models).
Here are maximum allowance rates for one-time furniture:

Single without accompanying dependants – $1,550
Single with one dependants – $2,440
Single with two dependants – $2,880
Couple without accompanying dependants – $2,280
Couple with one dependant – $2,560
Couple with two dependants – $3,185
Couple with three dependants – $3,885
For each additional dependant – $420
2. Linens Allowance (G/L 59001)

Linens allowance is provided one-time only. Suggested items include:

Towels
Bed linens such as blankets and sheet sets.
The local IRCC will determine if linens allowance will be provided through funds given to the new immigrants to:

Buy the furniture or
Through a standing offer with a supplier or
A combination of both (hybrid models).
Linens allowance rates are:

A single immigrant – $80
A family of 2 – $160
A family of 3 –$240
A family of 4 –$320
A family of 5 –$400
A family of 6 –$480
Each additional dependant – $80
3. Basic Household Needs Allowance ( G/L 59001)

New Canadian immigrants are provided with a one –time basic household needs allowance to cover:

Common household products like mops, brooms, pans, pots, and kitchen utensils.
Basic window coverings and
Other furniture items such as coffee tables, lamps etc.
The maximum allowable rates are:

Family of 1- $600
Family of 2- $650
Family of 3- $700
Family of 4 – $750
Family of 5 –$800
Family of 6 –$850
Each additional dependant –$50
4. Staple Allowance (G / L 59001)

New refugees get a one-time staple allowance to set up a household with cleaning supplies and basic food. Below are staple allowance rates:

Single individual – $210
Family of 2- $300
Family of 3 –$390
Family of 4 –$480
Family of 5 –$570
Family of 6 –$660
Each additional dependant –$90
5. Utility Installation Allowance ( G/L 59001)

This is a one-time utility allowance of $75 which includes services such as:

Internet / telephone connection fees
Hook-up / installation of utilities (electricity, gas, water).
6. School Start-up Allowance ( G/ L 59001, Second Installment if applicable)

A school Start-up allowance of $150 is provided to school children and young adults between the ages of 4 and 17 attending provincial schools (K-12), to defray cost for gym clothing and school supplies.

This allowance does not apply for those enrolled in English as a Second Language (ESL) or Language Instruction for Newcomers to Canada (LINC) related classes.

Young adults between the ages of 8-12, with demonstrated proof that they are enrolled in Secondary School full time may qualify for School Start-up allowance.

7. Transportation Allowance (G/L 59003)

A monthly transport allowance is provided based on the cost of monthly transportation in that community. This is determined based on the needs of the refugee.

In areas where public transportation is not allowed, a maximum rate of $75 is provided. Typically, only refugees who are 18 or older are eligible to receive a transportation allowance.

8. Communication Allowance (G/L 59003)

A monthly allowance of $30 is provided to enable families maintain a basic service for school, employment-related uses, and emergencies. Communication allowance is only given to cover basic needs and other costs such as phone and internet plans, long distance telephone calls etc.

9. Maternity- related Allowances

a. Maternity Food Allowance (G/L 59003)

This monthly allowance of $75 is issued once it is confirmed that the refugee is pregnant. The letter is usually issued by the doctor or nurse practitioner.

b. Maternity Clothing Allowance ( G/L 59007)

Once pregnancy is confirmed by the doctor or nurse practitioner, The IRCC officer will approve a one-time payment of $200 to cover the purchase of maternity clothing.

10. Newborn Allowance (GL 59007)

Once the doctor or nurse practitioner confirms pregnancy and due date, the IRCC officer will approve a one-time payment of $750 to cover the purchase of items for the baby. This allowance is usually administered 2 months to the due date.

11. Funeral Expenses (G/L 59007)

If a newcomer or the dependent of a refugee dies while on transit in Canada or already in Canada, the IRCC RAP officers will first evaluate the potential sources of the funeral expenditure such as life insurance, individual’s assets, or family members.

Funeral expenses including cremation shouldn’t exceed the established territorial or provincial social assistance rates.

tudorhouseconsulting.com...

Yes and it's an absolute shame.

Even the FN Bands are treating their own people like dirt, then the Government is the sh#tty cherry on top.

Here's a thought: Let's make sure the nation with the most clean drinking water on earth gets that water to it's people before we worry about handing out money to able-bodied foreigners?

Just a thought..but it's a radical suggestion apparently..

Then, they wonder why we aren't interesting in discussing it anymore and want to take action.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: chr0naut

Tossing principle aside, perhaps, perhaps not.

Your talking points are only useful if one considers
a one generational advantage/disadvantage.

In case you haven't realized it (surely you have)
this is war. There are hundreds of years to recoup
the cost of repelling illegal invaders.

Additionally it should be a policy to recoup
losses from countries responsible for such invasions.

How would the USA survive if they had to completely repatriate the Native Americans? They have taken everything they now claim as their own.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be realist about the right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

Hopefully we'll shut down immigration and take care of our own citizens for awhile.

Too drastic?

Your government has no mandate to interfere in other sovereign countries and has been taking care of its own citizens, for both good and bad. Cutting immigration won't stop governmental corruption, mismanagement, or overreach.

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Right-wing government is smaller because it centralizes wealth and power into an elite, and the enforcement of 'new' laws to conform to what they decide are acceptable norms, reduces the freedom in general. Remember that they have a legacy of implementing regulations many times that led to genocide.

What are you on about now?

Right-wing? LMFAO

We don't want "new" laws, the one's we have will do just fine, so long as they are enforced.

Are you concerned only with those who walk into your country?

No. They can all take a hike. Walk, crawl, run, drive, fly, etc..

Then are any of those illegal activities, because that seems to be the biggest point of difference?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MykeNukem

What happens to all the asylum seekers displaced by the wars and other political turmoil? Surely one of the primary policies of right-wing politics is to prevent national identity from being from being watered down by exiles from other nations/cultures?

And what of those other cultures and peoples already settled?

What solution might someone come up with?

and you know it is.

-------

I support legal immigration to my Great Nation, k?

BUT not if it's related to Liberal pandering and games, k?

F.I.F.O is my stance. Clear enough?

It is a legal requirement for asylum seekers to cross the border to seek asylum. Whoever is in government sets what is legal and illegal.

Have a look at the numbers of posts in this threads about legal immigrants who people are saying are 'taking over', and be realist about the right-wingers are actually going to do... again.

Hopefully we'll shut down immigration and take care of our own citizens for awhile.

Too drastic?

Your government has no mandate to interfere in other sovereign countries and has been taking care of its own citizens, for both good and bad. Cutting immigration won't stop governmental corruption, mismanagement, or overreach.

The process of pouring public money into enforcement will make your country poorer.

Right-wing government is smaller because it centralizes wealth and power into an elite, and the enforcement of 'new' laws to conform to what they decide are acceptable norms, reduces the freedom in general. Remember that they have a legacy of implementing regulations many times that led to genocide.

What are you on about now?

Right-wing? LMFAO

We don't want "new" laws, the one's we have will do just fine, so long as they are enforced.

Are you concerned only with those who walk into your country?

No. They can all take a hike. Walk, crawl, run, drive, fly, etc..

Then are any of those illegal activities, because that seems to be the biggest point of difference?

Stopping it won't be illegal, either, now will it?

No new law required.

Just, no new immigration.

As far as illegal immigration goes, expel them immediately with whatever they weasel'd in with.

Perfect.