Modern war crimes

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: jofafot

Sure pumpkin. Yes, they found beheadings they just couldn’t tell if they were chopped off or blown off.
I find it despicable, disgusting and extremely disturbing that you go to any lengths to defend and support the scum that committed these atrocities listed below. Says a lot about you. I don’t know why I bother with you bot but here’s just a few atrocities committed 10/7.

You should visit the first link it has pics just for you, they’re graphic.

Charred remains and a CT scan of the remains show an adult and a child who were bound together and burned alive by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7. Two spinal columns can be seen in the scan. The pair were likely embracing as they burned.

Kugel also explained that the age range of the victims spans from 3 months to 80 or 90 years old. Many bodies, including those of babies, are without heads. Asked if they were decapitated, Kugel answered yes. Although he admits that, given the circumstances, it’s difficult to ascertain whether they were decapitated before or after death, as well as how they were beheaded, “whether cut off by knife or blown off by RPG,” he explained.

“The proportion of bodies we’ve received who are charred is high,” Kugel explained. “Many have gunshot wounds in their hands, showing they put their hands up to their faces in defense. Many were burned alive in their homes. … We know they were burned alive because there is soot in their trachea, their throats—meaning they were still breathing when set on fire.” The single mercy, Kugel said—if there is one to be found—is that the burned victims likely died from carbon monoxide and soot inhalation before the fire killed them.

And when I go to the Shura camp [where deceased bodies in Israel are first collected] and see containers like you’d see at the port—but they’re all full of bodies… And you hear the stories—that behind their charred bodies, something terrible happened—it’s very difficult. I’ve seen many things in my 31-year career, but the magnitude and the cruelty [here] is terrible,” Kugel added.

themedialine.org...

"She was alive," the witness says. "She was bleeding from her back." She goes on to detail how the men cut off parts of the victim's body during the assault. "They sliced her breast and threw it on the street," she says. "They were playing with it." The victim was passed to another man in uniform, she continues. "He penetrated her, and shot her in the head before he finished. He didn't even pick up his pants; he shoots and ejaculates."

Several people involved in collecting and identifying the bodies of those killed in the attack told us they had seen multiple signs of sexual assault, including broken pelvises, bruises, cuts and tears, and that the victims ranged from children and teenagers to pensioners. Video testimony of an eyewitness at the Nova music festival, shown to journalists by Israeli police, detailed the gang rape, mutilation and execution of one victim. Videos of naked and bloodied women filmed by Hamas on the day of the attack, and photographs of bodies taken at the sites afterwards, suggest that women were sexually targeted by their attackers.

www.bbc.com...

Nice film(movie) assets, are they going to use them in a movie or not? If not you can perhaps request them to use them in your "Scary Movie".

Oh btw I didn't even look at the site in that link. The link itself is self explanatory at explaining their bias: "israels-forensic-pathology-center-confirms". "Israel confirms israel is telling the truth" is like saying "hamas officials confirms hamas is telling the truth". Trusting either of them is being ignorant at best...

a reply to: KrustyKrab

All military operations (not terrorist ones) assess and set thresholds for “collateral damage”.

Different missions have different thresholds.

They won’t go after a few grunts with a high collateral damage threshold.

The leaders of Hamas, for example, would have a higher threshold.

We’re talking hostages here. Ones in imminent danger, as the over 40 dead already, prove.

The IDF collateral damage threshold would have been very high. It doesn’t mean they did kill a lot of civilians but it means they would have been prepared to.

Just like any military would.

Bring em home and screw those that took em, those that held em (an Al Jazeera reporter in Noas case), and those that supported the terrorists.

To be honest, I think 1, wars should be declared and 2, should be fought out to absolute victory. Tired of 'limited wars' and the nonsense that comes with it. Leave the rubble wear it lies, let the losers clean up. Just like the fire bombing of Japan and ultimately, the atomic bombing. The bombings of Dresden and other Nazi cities. Make it horrific again, make it painful for everyone involved. After 911, should've flattened Afghanistan and left, came home, done. If you fight wars, full on wars with only victory in mind, with all the brutality that comes with it, there would be absolutely a lot less of them. I imagine civilians would be a helluva lot less careless who to vote on to lead them.

a reply to: vance2

Leave the rubble wear it lies, let the losers clean up. Just like the fire bombing of Japan and ultimately, the atomic bombing. The bombings of Dresden and other Nazi cities. Make it horrific again, make it painful for everyone involve

got news for you, the cleanup of germany and japen was spear headed and helped by the allies.

That's true 👍

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: vance2

Leave the rubble wear it lies, let the losers clean up. Just like the fire bombing of Japan and ultimately, the atomic bombing. The bombings of Dresden and other Nazi cities. Make it horrific again, make it painful for everyone involve

got news for you, the cleanup of germeny and japen was spear headed and helped by the allies.

originally posted by: vance2
To be honest, I think 1, wars should be declared and 2, should be fought out to absolute victory. Tired of 'limited wars' and the nonsense that comes with it. Leave the rubble wear it lies, let the losers clean up. Just like the fire bombing of Japan and ultimately, the atomic bombing. The bombings of Dresden and other Nazi cities. Make it horrific again, make it painful for everyone involved. After 911, should've flattened Afghanistan and left, came home, done. If you fight wars, full on wars with only victory in mind, with all the brutality that comes with it, there would be absolutely a lot less of them. I imagine civilians would be a helluva lot less careless who to vote on to lead them.

Funny thing Vance, I’ve been told that the purpose of war is to win the war.

I’ve never been to war so have to take that either at face value or as a piss take.

If You Don't Want To Be Killed Dont' Take Hostages

The reaction to the rescue of four Israeli hostages from Gaza is a microcosm of the past 70 years of this conflict. Every time Palestinians pay the price for acting out in some horrific, irrational, self-destructive, violent way, their defenders want to rewind history to a more convenient moment — this time to Oct. 6, 2023.

Sorry, that’s not how life works. Hamas, the chosen political entity of Gaza — the overwhelming choice of Palestinian civilians, in fact — launched this round of the conflict by massacring, sexually torturing, and kidnapping Israelis whose only sin was attending a music festival. Palestinians took hundreds of these hostages back to the Gaza Strip — a place Arabs have political autonomy over for nearly 20 years — and held them in the middle of densely populated areas hoping to dissuade Israel from liberating them, or, if it did, to create as many martyrs as possible.

Critics of Israel now ask the usual dishonest question: Are four lives worth the alleged 200-plus Arabs that were lost rescuing them?

Israel is the only nation on earth that is tasked with protecting its own people and its enemies. Every innocent lost life is, of course, a tragedy. But if you don’t want to be placed in harm’s way, don’t hold hostages in your homes and neighborhoods, and don’t cheer and support a government that puts your life in constant danger for a lost cause. This is the reality of the world.

Now, if reports are correct, Hamas — and perhaps “civilians” (it’s difficult to tell because terrorists are often dressed as noncombatants) — opened fire on the rescuers. The Israelis, who do not indiscriminately target civilians, fired back, as they should. Whatever the specifics, every lost life is Hamas’ fault.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Whatever the specifics, every lost life is Hamas’ fault.

can't be said often enough.

Modern War Crimes

Amazing how the Hamas supporters don't ever mention REAL war crimes.
Like those that Hamas and the 'palestinians' continue to carry out every day.

Rescued Hostages Were Starved and Beaten Almost Every Day

The four Israeli hostages rescued during a daring military operation over the weekend were starved and beaten “almost every day” by Hamas terrorists during their eight months in captivity, their doctor has revealed.

Noa Argamani, 26, Almog Meir Jan, 22, Andrey Kozlov and Shlomi Ziv, 41, suffered the horrific abuse after they were all kidnapped from the Supernova desert rave during the Oct. 7 Hamas terror attacks.

“It was a harsh, harsh, experience, with a lot of abuse, almost every day,” Dr. Itai Pessach, who has been treating the freed hostages at the Tel Hashomer Hospital in central Israel, told CNN.

The doctor said the hostages had revealed they’d been moved by their Hamas captors several times while in captivity and the harm inflicted on them had “left a significant mark on their health.”

“They had no protein, so their muscles are extremely wasted, there is damage to some other systems because of that,” Pessach said, adding that the food and water supply was at times non-existent.

“There have been periods where they got almost no food whatsoever,” he continued.

“There were other periods where it was a little better, but all in all, the combination of the psychological stress, malnutrition or not getting enough food or not getting the right kind of food, medical neglect, being limited to space, not seeing the sun and all of the other things have [a] significant effect on health.”