Retired US army generals warn of insurrection or civil war in 2024

a reply to: Degradation33

Finally somebody gets to the heart of the beast. While we bicker, that dragon smiles, it anticipates an easy meal. It’s waiting and hungry as hell.

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
a reply to: lilzazz

If you work with them and are throwing their plans on the internet I don't find that very smart as the 3 letters watch this site .

Really?

Do they watch it like a hawk? Are they watching me?

Well, if they are they can be cynically poked at like everyone else. And should never be feared in that regard. So...

Since when have the three letter agencies been very good at their jobs? Unless you count how everything always backfires and primarily benefits things that keep their budget necessary. Did wonders in Afghanistan and Central and South America. Especially if you like drugs, guns, or profit off of guns and drugs. And thanks for not really following up on that chatter that one time.

CIA facilitates, DEA, FBI, ATF, NSA, DIA, NGA, have purpose.

They are actually more likely to join up covertly and encourage the civil war training. Then provide the land for their foothills training camp. They like covertly promoting threats so they can keep better track of the things they help invent.

That's how it comes off, anyway. The DoJ ones at least.

If MAGA is such a threat. If Proud Boys are such a threat, They both wanted it to exist and let it happen. Probably gave them mapquest directions to the weak points of Whitehouse security.

All that "joking" aside, I'm actually surprised the domestic security ones haven't really weighed in on the current mindset of the country. At least directly. If they are in charge of our security they're letting it divide and conquer itself through exploitable paranoia without so much as an interjection. So far it's been all DoJ and FBI saying what the domestic threat is, which actually causes it to become a greater threat, while the DoD says nothing discernable.

But everyone is allowed to continue to collectively go insane. That's fine.

originally posted by: Station27

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: Station27

Easily, the real question here, is why can’t you?

Just what I thought you would do - not answer the question. If you can't back up what you say, don't say stuff. It's as simple as that if you want to be taken seriously.

I gave you an answer, the first word in my reply completely and directly answered your question. I thought I made myself perfectly clear.

I’m not here to think for you. I’m not here to try to talk you into my way of thinking. I’m not here to put down how you think. I’m not here to promote violence. I am here to suggest reason, truth, and tolerance.

Before you load that .45 govt model in your avatar, think of this. We have elections in this country, that’s the least bloody way to speak out. You can get involved in your community, to inform people of your concerns. Run for something in 2024, if you have good ideas and are trustworthy you can influence your constituents. Talk to people online on sites like this and try to be credible. Write all the letters you can to your elected officials, they want your vote, if they don’t hear from you, they don’t know how you feel. If you don’t know how to feel, form an opinion from people that do know, or grab that pistol and serve your country in an enlistment to a combat zone. Don’t listen to those that promote violence as an answer.

How’s that for an answer, and I am sure I could give you more, but you don’t seem to want to listen to someone that actually carried that weapon in a conflict. It was on my hip for a year. If it was on yours I’m afraid you learned nothing from the experience. Is this simple enough, or would you like me to continue?

originally posted by: WeMustCare
The current Commander-in-Chief has an unprecedented high number of military brass, and rank-and-file, who hate his guts.

Are you absolutely certain about that?

Recall back in o'buma regime days, when o'buma fired 200+ senior Military officers and appointed his own leftists?

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years
www.investors.com...
Other removals include the sacking of two nuclear commanders in a single week — Maj. Gen. Michael Carey, head of the 20th Air Force, responsible for the three wings that maintain control of the ...
Democrats fired 200 Officers during O'buma Regime

You know, crap bags like milley the commie sympathizer who would warn China personally if then President Trump was going to be attack them....

Mind you, those officers were left in place during Trump's short and daily interrupted admin. He should have fired them, but didn't. So o'biden technically has to o'bumas DoD. How else do you think the military got woke?

FYI if President Trump wins, he must replace every one.

No leftovers allowed, start from scratch and fire every one, like we expected the first time. Any politican who gets in the way should be recalled and replaced.

The time for F'ing around is over.

It's crunch time people.

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: ADVISOR

Badly dated election this year.

Happy Guy Fawkes Day!

May it be the Armageddon everyone always hoped for.

** As an aside, How you split up a country that would divide like this?

Build walls around all metropolitan areas?

It's actually pretty simple.

The United States splits into about seven different factions, based on economics and allocation of resources.

A good example is California, who cannot survive without water from Arizona and power from Washington state, who gets most of their electricity from Montana.

They will have to make compacts with other states just to exist.

If you are talking about ports to access the overseas markets, there are plenty of inland overseas ports.

it won't be a civil war, per se.

It will be just the collapse of our monetary system and what goes from there.

TPTB really need 15 minute cities to get to a One World Order.

Time is running out on that because... economic collapse.

Democrats (the Progressives) are banking on getting everything in place to run everything before that happens.

In reality, the big cities will lose 90% or so of their population in about a month.

What is going to be left is the best gangs that got the most.... then they will have to go out to forage in the rural areas.

And that will be where the actual war happens.

a reply to: Station27

Ya right fella it’s all over this site, I’m right in the center, and leaning right. Try again.

a reply to: Lumenari

America - Please don't make the dystopian short story where California becomes part of a Satallite Chinese state a reality.

Something like this?

a reply to: Degradation33

With all the lies and misinformation from the MSM, I don't think it would matter. The belief that the hit was performed.by Bidens administration would be almost impossible to disprove in their minds. Given what Trump has been put through by those much more corrupt than him lends credence to the belief.

a reply to: ADVISOR

The INSURRECTION is COMMENCING - 7.12.2024

🚨 Joseph R. Biden is the acknowledged leader of the Democratic party, yet an increasing number of Democrats are mounting an INSURRECTION against this sitting U.S. President!

(A real Insurrection. Not the kiddie version Trump-haters dreamed up.)

""Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi have spoken privately about Joe Biden and the future of his 2024 campaign. Neither is quite sure what to do.""

www.cnn.com...

originally posted by: Degradation33
a reply to: ADVISOR

Build walls around all metropolitan areas?

Maybe ‘Escape from New York’ them all? Just let me out of LA first!!

a reply to: Kaiju666

Lived off Western in Central LA for a few years. LA IS A F*CKING NIGHTMARE. and I never had to go beyond Central LA or SFV. Only place where it takes 90 minutes to go 11 miles at 2 PM.

Turn it into a freaking Prison and start with the pretentious asses between Marina Del Ray and The Peoples Republic of Santa Monica.

How would an LA prison colony work? They'd be more likely to wall off Orange County for voting Republican. Start with Newport Beach probably.

To make this a serious post, in the event of a total collapse and breakup into several parts, I'm probably going back to the convection oven known as Arizona.

There's too many (1.3 million) Mandarin speakers here. And the Triads pretty much get carte blanche to grow cannabis in the National forests already, or shady medical supply companies, or stuff with Fentanyl and The Mexican Cartel.

If it lost the US affiliation it world probably take a hard left turn. It's possible. They wouldn't put Uyhgurs into reeducation camps they'd put people who offend.

That's a lot of hyperbole, and it probably wouldn't be that bad, but it just seems like it goes more dystopic liberal hellscape. Like brave new world only you're designated by a color instead of alphabetic castes, for equality.

a reply to: Degradation33

Only place that takes 90 minutes for two miles I know of is Nashville TN at rush hour before covid. I am long gone. Family still live near there and I feel for the LA folks and Nashville. One part of the 'Ville is called LA: Lower Antioch, but the City is looking liking NYC style growth for buildings with residentials being tall and skinny's like Long Island NY.

a reply to: xuenchen

I think this whole prospect of a coup just barrelled up a notch with the attempted assassination of President Trump.

There will be a trail of crumbs leading back to Biden & the Democrats. Already we know that Biden, after having some $90,000,000 of pledged Democrat donations frozen 'until he steps down', made a phone call on Saturday afternoon to those political donors, in which he was overheard to have said:

"It's time to put Trump in the bulls-eye."

Six hours later Trump was shot in the head by an assassin who had parked himself in a sector of rooftop overwatch that should have been covered by the secret service. There is evidence that the secret service snipers had the gunman in their sights but did nothing until he took those fateful shots. He was given free reign to take the shots uncontested. Only then was he executed by the SS snipers.

The head of the secret service, Kimberley Cheatle, hates Trump & is an avowed Democrat sympathiser. She had already said publicly that if Trump were to be jailed, she would withdraw ALL secret service protections from him (which would be illegal, but she said it anyway). It seems clear to me that an order came down from the top (Obama & Killary, and those who oversee the politicians in the hidden chambers of power), which was relayed to the secret service (Kimberley Cheatle) who then stood down her agents covering one sector of rooftop overwatch during the Trump Rally, allowing the would-be assassin to take seven shots at the former president before 'reacting' and executing the gunman whom they had already had in their sights before he took those shots.

It is a blatant yet very simple conspiracy with literally very few moving parts (it could be as simple as 1: Biden, 2. Cheatle, 3. SS sniper #1 - those three individuals could have made a simple pact to act as they did, leading to a very near miss of an assassination of Biden's political rival), taking place after the sitting president made a chilling statement about putting Trump in the cross-hairs - meaning it should be easy to link all the pieces together & incriminate the senior Deomcrats for attempting to assassinate a political rival. It is so obvious it hurts.

If anything, I would think that the political right would now be highly motivated to fight back if Biden/ his replacement attempts to steal the election in November, or to suspend ordinary life in favour of martial law due to some imagined or false flag 'crisis' during the election season. It could very well escalate into civil war if rogue units of the armed forces sided with Trump in November, which many of them assuredly WOULD DO without a shadow of a doubt, because they can intuit the righteousness of the Trump cause as compared to that of the treasonous Democrats. Attempting to assassinate your political rival is a sure fire way to inflame feelings of rebellion & distrust, readying good men & women all over the USA for a conflict against the treacherous powers which the Democrats represent.

a reply to: rickymouse

I agree with you to an extent: If Trump wins, there will be massive civil unrest from Antifa & BLM, etc. But it will be generally uncoordinated chaos which simply disrupts & irritates the machinations of power once Trump gets round to executing his presidency.

However, if the left steal the election again (we know they did it last time - a LOT of people, including entire military units, believe this) - then there will be a different sort of uprising from those on the right. It will not be civil unrest & destructive chaos levied against ordinary citizens for the sake of protest; it will be coordinated military action against the Biden/Biden's replacement regime. The righteous men & women of the right will not stand for another stolen presidency which will implement divisive & destructive policies intended to further decimate & downgrade the status of the USA as an independent nation on the world stage. Those who rebel against a leftist regime will do so in an organised, efficient way, and it very literally could turn into an active civil war.

I watched the recent movie 'Civil War' the other day. I knew it was far-fetched in some respects (for example, it claimed that Texas seceded, which is realistic - but it contended that California also seceded alongside them, which is totally unrealistic, they would never ally themselves with Texas). Having said that, as I continued to watch, it became very clear that the 'bad guy' - the incumbent president who was fighting against the seceding states - was actually a left wing despot, very much like a Joe Biden, stealing & suspending elections, then clinging to power by all means possible & brutally subjugating those whom he intended to dominate.

It became very apparent to me that what was seen in that movie could very well take place if Trump & his supporters were fighting against a Gavin Newsome type cookie cutter leftist who was clinging to power & stealing/ suspending elections, preventing investigations into possible stolen elections, etc. Military units allied to Trump, perhaps even states wanting to secede from an imploding democrat-led USA, it's not a totally unrealistic prospect - would fight hard against any units who remained allied with the Democrat incumbent intent on subjugating & destroying the traditionalist backbone of America, the conservative & libertarian right. They (the left) are already waging a war of words against the right via idiot mouthpieces in the media, against Trump, and now it seems they have tried to assassinate him. Things could get real ugly in November depending on what line the Democrats take. Steal the election? Prepare to pay in blood, sweat & tears.

Watching the movie stirred something inside me, to believe that quite possibly, we could see something like that in our lifetime. And if it happened in the USA, there's a possibility that the people in other nations around the world would be inspired to take a similar path in order to free themselves from the unelected bureaucratic control of globalist leftist lunatics.

a reply to: xuenchen

Are you being sarcastic?

If Trump were assassinated it would throw the RNC into disarray, they would struggle to find a decent replacement candidate with anywhere near the charisma & popularity of Trump. There would be a puffing of the chest of the idiot mouthpieces in leftist media, those who have spent the last eight years bad-mouthing Trump would be secretly overjoyed that he was dead. Can you imagine Rachel Maddow crowing over how he 'brought it on himself'...? The left would ride a tidal surge of self-righteous elation, dominating the election season & stealing the election without even a shadow of remorse. The momentum alone would propel them to what the pundits would call a fair & square election victory.

So there is a massive boost to the Democrats if Trump is suddenly nowhere present to challenge them competently as he has been doing for the past twelve months in particular. If Trump were eliminated, they could cruise to victory in an 'explainable' way, then escalate their little war with Russia into a direct confrontation in which young Americans, Brits & Russians would be fed into the meat grinder, with even the possibility of a full nuclear conflict taking off.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Nice. Great work with the predictions, seems very reasonable under the circumstances.

a reply to: xuenchen

VP elect lacks the charisma & popularity of Trump, and therefore would be a weak option with no momentum.

After yesterday assignation attempt on a former and presidential candidate, we will know how things will be shaping out, after the GOP national convention.

The last attempt to take out the opposition failed, lets see how desperate the democrats in power are to hold to the white house.

We may see some presidential directives in the name of, for the best interest of America and the American people.

Time will tell.

a reply to: Freeborn

Something to consider; we should all concentrate on the many things that unite us and bond us together rather than the few minor issues that separate and divide us.

Hear, hear.

I had a run-in with several Facebook friends during the UK election recently, and my support for Reform UK was aggressively questioned. I stated that I supported them because their social conservatism & anti-globalist leanings were most in-line with some of my core beliefs. But the whole "You're a racist!" thing came up, despite myself being a white British guy married to a beautiful Latina woman, hence I can't possibly be a racist.

Eventually I wrote an explanation of my position, and I think it bears repeating. The main point is that political party alignments are only rough approximations of the kaleidoscopic individuality of the human soul, they can never be perfect representations, hence they will always be divisive if we cling to the minutiae of the details contained in the manifesto, rather than reflecting on the range of generalities those manifestos represent. We need to stand and fall based on the closest approximation to our beliefs, and not expect to agree with the opinions of others if they are slightly more aligned to an alternative viewpoint. We should forgive each other the differences in our viewpoints, especially if those views are stretched to fit a party which isn't quite a perfect approximation of the soul of the individual.

If I had the chance to vote in any party at all, I would have chosen the Heritage Party, a social conservatism party of common sense & anti-globalist stance. Unfortunately they are a tiny party which has only just been instituted, hence they have zero chance of getting seats at the moment. But it is my hope that assuming we don't accidentally trigger the apocalypse in the next ten years, by that time they should have grown to the point that they can at least stand as the opposition to whichever party gets in. Ten years later, they could be in power, reversing all the net zero shenanigans & sorting out multiple failed aspects of our current state of affairs.