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Can anyone explain the crime Trump did?

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posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

You still haven’t answered the actual questions.

What was falsified with labeling a invoice paying a lawyer to obtain a legal NDA as a legal fee with the correct amounts of money moved / paid.

And name that crime that was “furthered” cited at the beginning of the trail by the prosecution presented to the defense that 12 jurors unanimously found beyond a reasonable doubt occurred as required by the constitution.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 08:52 PM
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a reply to: JadedGhost

How can he show remorse for things he didn't do? 🤣



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude



My wife works for a CPA, and if I asked her what to categorize a payment to my lawyer as, she keeps telling me it's a legal expense


Your wife is NOT a CPA and you are NOT a presidential candidate paying off a porn star you slept with to protect your candidacy.


and you have zero clue as to the answer of the simple question I continue to ask. But seeing you continually deflect from that fact, makes me smile. Thanks for being you.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

I have a theory that it's been raining,


And name that crime that was “furthered” cited at the beginning of the trail by the prosecution presented to the defense that 12 jurors unanimously found beyond a reasonable doubt occurred as required by the constitution.


The Jury didn’t have to be unanimous on what the other crime was, since he wasn’t charged or convicted of the other crime. They just had to be unanimous that business records where falsified in furtherance of another crime.

Either way It’s done, get over it. It’s a completely legitimate law in NY. Trumps lawyers have to somehow find a way to prove the law itself is unconstitutional to be able to beat the charges.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

I have a theory that it's been raining, even though it isn't raining now, and I didn't see or hear the rain. My theory is based on the fact that that, outside, everything is wet. Dark clouds are breaking up and dispersing. There are large puddles in the road and people are dressed in raincoats and carrying umbrellas. My collogues agree with me, that my theory is sound.
(A paraphrased Judge Merchan)



Or a setup for something like candid camera, scare tactics. Similar to staging something like Russia Trump Collusion. You know. Lying about “documents” that have nothing to do with rain or theory.
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posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Sookiechacha

What is the crime.

Name it.


Falsifying business records for the furtherance of another crime.


was there a way to pay the whore for the NDA, and not have that (not a crime) be a crime? if so, what was that way?

If not, then WTAF is the real crime here?

If you don't know, just say that.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: Lazy88



What was falsified with labeling a invoice paying a lawyer to obtain a legal NDA as a legal fee with the correct amounts of money moved / paid.


There are lots of ways to legally account for a presidential candidate paying off a porn star who they had an illicit affair with, for their silence, so as not to further taint their already badly scathed campaign. Trump and his crew deliberately and on purpose didn't go that route; they didn't simply make a mistake and mis-label a line item, according to the jury's verdict.

Of course, Trump will appeal the verdict, the court's jurisdiction and the judge himself. We'll see what's going to stick and what isn't.


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posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:01 PM
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originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: RazorV66

Here’s another thing I’m going to be right about… I think Judge Merchan is going to give Trump an incarceration sentence.

Trump has been found in contempt of court 10 times, has absolutely no remorse for his actions and has been found by a court to have committed fraud multiple times, either personally or though his businesses. What other choice does the Judge have but to send him to prison?


God I hope so. And it will save Joetatoe from having to do anymore campaigning. he can just focus on keeping his boom boom out of his pants, and when visiting day is.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:04 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Lazy88



What was falsified with labeling a invoice paying a lawyer to obtain a legal NDA as a legal fee with the correct amounts of money moved / paid.


There are lots of ways to legally account for a presidential candidate paying off a porn star who they had an illicit affair with, for their silence, so as not to further taint their already badly scathed campaign. Trump and his crew deliberately and on purpose didn't go that route; they didn't simply make a mistake and mis-label a line item, according to the jury's verdict.

Of course, Trump will appeal the verdict, the court's jurisdiction and the judge himself. We'll see what's going to stick and what isn't.



this is comedy gold here.

I'll state here and now, I'll do whatever penance you want, if you can explain what that route is. I'm 99.9% sure you have nofaking clue, but maybe you can be part of the .01%. Impress me. OR.......



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: JadedGhost

The Jury didn’t have to be unanimous on what the other crime was,


Is that what the constitution states.


Is it false a “felony” conviction requires a unanimous jury decision of a clearly stated charge present at the start of the trial.



Amdt6.4.4.3 Unanimity of the Jury
Sixth Amendment:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Under current doctrine, jury verdicts must be unanimous to convict a defendant of a non-petty offense in both federal and state criminal trials.1 For federal criminal trials, the Supreme Court’s recognition of this unanimity requirement is long-standing, dating back at least as far as the late 1800s.2 But for state criminal trials, it was not until 2020 that the Court held for the first time, in Ramos v. Louisiana, that the Sixth Amendment unanimity requirement applies by incorporation via the Fourteenth Amendment.3

www.law.cornell.edu...#:~:text=)%3B%20Andres%20v.-,United%20States%2C%20333%20U.S.%20740%2C% 20748%20(1948)%20(,jury.%E2%80%9D%20)%3B%20Maxwell%20v.



When has it ever been “ok” to select from a theory of three different crimes right before deliberations with no unanimous decision on any specific crime.
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posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: network dude

My son in law is a CPA. He tells me there are many, many ways to get things done. wink, wink There are very few ways to break the law, lie, omit, keep 2 sets of books.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:08 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

My son in law is a CPA. He tells me there are many, many ways to get things done. wink, wink There are very few ways to break the law, lie, omit, keep 2 sets of books.



So you haven't a clue? LOL, color me shocked. in fact, here is my shocked face.



Never change. This is such a perfect example of my theory.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

You’re trying to change the subject.

Answer the question..

What was falsified with labeling a invoice paying a lawyer to obtain a legal NDA as a legal fee with the correct amounts of money moved / paid.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude

My son in law is a CPA. He tells me there are many, many ways to get things done. wink, wink There are very few ways to break the law, lie, omit, keep 2 sets of books.



and you may want to limit how much family dirt you want to share here. If someone finds out who you are, that guy could be in some trouble. And all because you tried to pretend you understood this.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: Lazy88

According to her daughters hubby, he should have hid the payment in a second set of books. That must be how the democrats do it.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:13 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Sookiechacha

What is the crime.

Name it.


Falsifying business records for the furtherance of another crime.


was there a way to pay the whore for the NDA, and not have that (not a crime) be a crime? if so, what was that way?


Yes, Trump could’ve just simply paid her straight out then declared it to the election commission. But that wasn’t an option for Trump at the time, since he was on damage control after the access Hollywood tapes where released… hence why he knowingly committed the crime.



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Who keeps track of such things? It’s not like the US government is conspiring with the Ukraine to creat a enemies of the Ukraine list..



posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:15 PM
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So you haven't a clue? LOL, color me shocked. in fact, here is my shocked face.


Neither do you or your wife, obviously, while my son in law does.

Bottom line, it doesn't matter what the best correct way for Trump and his crew to record his hush money deal, the jury found that he and his crew conspired to, deliberately and on purpose, falsify records to illegally protect his campaign.
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posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:16 PM
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How about the congressional members that used tax payers money to pay accusers of actual crimes of harassment to stay silent and sealed it with NDA’s.
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posted on Jun, 12 2024 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Sookiechacha

What is the crime.

Name it.


Falsifying business records for the furtherance of another crime.


was there a way to pay the whore for the NDA, and not have that (not a crime) be a crime? if so, what was that way?


Yes, Trump could’ve just simply paid her straight out then declared it to the election commission. But that wasn’t an option for Trump at the time, since he was on damage control after the access Hollywood tapes where released… hence why he knowingly committed the crime.


So of all the NDA's he had going, this one needed to be listed as hush money to a whore on the notation? would it be wrong to ask that you back that up, or should I just take your word for that?



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