Can anyone explain the crime Trump did?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Dalamax

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Lazy88
a reply to: Annee

Funny. Someone posted about “evidence”? Which is BS. Did the prosecution ever cite how obtaining a NDA isn’t a Legal fee, cite what accounting code / law / best practice, and what it was supposed to be listed as. Hell taking a client to a strip club and buying them a lap dance can be a legal business expense.

Is that how they are getting away with this clown show trial, listing it as an entertainment expense.

More denial.

I’ll wait for the real lawyers.

Enough about how your really feeling 😂

Honestly, this thread is dead.

Doesn’t matter what anyone says, the OP will reject it.

Even when it goes to appeal — even if Trump loses the appeal — the OP will continue to reject what he’s not willing to hear.

Like I said — I’ll wait for the real lawyers.

The whole point is the discussion about what the actual crime was and the very real dangers of banana kangaroo courts.
The actual lawyers in this case did not even argue a case to prosecute the 'other crime'. They just used a vague term of 'influencing an election' and two other non-argued imaginary crimes.

It was a sham and people are rightly questioning how such a monstrosity of a case was ever brought.

It's strange you even felt the need to comment multiple times on a 'dead thread'.
If you don't mind the rest of us will continue to discuss it.
You are don't need to contribute if you don't want to.

Orange man bad is not a case.

This likely won't matter to anyone, but a link was posted in another thread to the full jury instructions. Along with other info, it explicitly states the charges, and the underlying crimes to be considered.

Again, doubtful anyone will read it, but
The pdf can be downloaded here

a reply to: frogs453

It’s funny how you Liberals think you are smarter than even a Yale law professor that doesn’t know what crime Trump committed.

“Going after, criminally, a former president of the United States and somebody who is running for president now, that's a very bad look for this country," he said.

"It's an especially bad look when the folks bringing the case and the judge deciding it are members of the opposing political party. And it's an even worse look when the crime is so unclear that the state is hiding the ball about what the actual charges are right up through the trial and indeed into the trial."

'"Even now, we don't know exactly what the jury found Trump guilty of," Rubenfeld added.

Rubenfeld said those who criminally target members of opposing political parties, in this case Trump, the "poll-leading candidate," then they "better have the goods."

"You better not be pursuing some novel legal theory where you have to hide the ball [and] it's not even clear what the charges are," he said. "That could be a very dangerous precedent for this country. A very bad and dangerous precedent."

What crime did he commit?
The actual statute, not some Liberal hurt feelz.

www.foxnews.com...

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: UKTruth

Why was Cohen convicted of it then, if the law doesn’t exist as you just claimed?

They love to skip over the “covering up another crime”.

what crime did he cover up?

originally posted by: frogs453


This likely won't matter to anyone, but a link was posted in another thread to the full jury instructions. Along with other info, it explicitly states the charges, and the underlying crimes to be considered.

Again, doubtful anyone will read it, but
The pdf can be downloaded here

They won’t care. It’s not what they want to hear.

Trump is a “victim” of bad justice. We have to wait for the “truth” to come out.

According to Trumpers.

a reply to: frogs453

Nope, doesn't matter. Shame the jury couldn't read them either.....

a reply to: Annee

"No reasonable prosecutor."


But do go on.....

originally posted by: frogs453


This likely won't matter to anyone, but a link was posted in another thread to the full jury instructions. Along with other info, it explicitly states the charges, and the underlying crimes to be considered.

Again, doubtful anyone will read it, but
The pdf can be downloaded here

so you read it, and totally understand it, why not just tell us what the underlying crime is, and then explain what part of paying the lawyer and listing as a legal fee was illegal. Explain it like you understand it, or, option B is admit you just don't know. Notice there is no option C.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: UKTruth

Why was Cohen convicted of it then, if the law doesn’t exist as you just claimed?

They love to skip over the “covering up another crime”.

what crime did he cover up?

REPEAT — REPEAT — REPEAT.

Like I said — this thread is dead.

It’s now just rehash spin.

Exactly.

If Trump is guilty, so is the rest of Congress.

Where's their day in court?

a reply to: ADVISOR

No one told you?

Then allow me to fill you in.

Never before in US history has anyone been as corrupt as Trump. After being illegally spied on, impeached twice and the MSM slandering him during his entire presidency they still couldn't get the teflon Don.

So 4 completely independent jurisdictions found 4 cases to bring with 91 charges collectively.

Turns out, they finally got the orange man. All it took was a little bit of Constitutional skirting and civil rights violations.

But that's a small price to pay to get the frontrunner of the upcoming election.....right?

originally posted by: JadedGhost

He may still well be elected POTUS, but as a convicted felon he can’t own a firearm or even travel to at least 37 different countries, including the UK, so no more golfing trips to Scotland for convicted felon Trump. lol, he most likely won’t even be able to vote for himself in Florida this November, since hell either be incarcerated or on probation.

This case was bad on so many levels it will be overturned in higher courts, so what then? BTW Clinton couldn't get a security clearance, but he was President and was above the program. Your logic is just stupid to really put effort into it all.

originally posted by: Annee

Trump is a “victim” of bad justice. We have to wait for the “truth” to come out.

According to Trumpers.

When it is overturned in higher courts will you be the first to say, yes it was a bad case?

originally posted by: frogs453


This likely won't matter to anyone, but a link was posted in another thread to the full jury instructions. Along with other info, it explicitly states the charges, and the underlying crimes to be considered.

Again, doubtful anyone will read it, but
The pdf can be downloaded here

The Judge, referring to, and "suggesting" THE FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN ACT was violated without a Federal conviction may be the unconstitutional part of the instructions that gets the conviction reversed. 😀 If any Juror "used" a Federal law that wasn't violated as a base for the underlying "causing" crime, that also is unconstitutional.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yes, but that may be another issue, the FEC General Counsel report stated that in their investigation that Trump did violate the statutes. You'd have to ask Cooksey and Trainor who voted against moving further why they chose to ignore the findings and only focused on Cohen being charged as satisfactory, when the report explicitly stated Trump violated it.

a reply to: JinMI

Oh man yeah, thanks for reminding me.

I would never had thought a one time president was able to out Corrupt, career parasite politicians who been at it half a century.

Where's was my mind...


😁