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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Imhere
You want to go against the Victors of world wars?
Says the person talking crap against Great Britain, you know the major country that stood up to the Nazis whilst Stalin was trying to be all chummy with Hitler??
You do seem to have a twisted view of the world my friend???
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Imhere
In the beginning, it was appeasement of Hitler.
That was a mistake.
As is appeasement of all warmongering dictators.
A lesson from history you have failed to learn.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Imhere
Seems like you disapprove of the Allies victory over the Nazis.
What a giveaway....
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Imhere
Seems like you disapprove of the Allies victory over the Nazis.
What a giveaway....
You want less “narrative” then start looking on Google maps and deleting all the newly renamed NAZI SS “Stepan Bandera” streets after 2014.
originally posted by: Imhere
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Imhere
Seems like you disapprove of the Allies victory over the Nazis.
What a giveaway....
You want less “narrative” then start looking on Google maps and deleting all the newly renamed NAZI SS “Stepan Bandera” streets after 2014.
Then come talk to me.
originally posted by: twistedpuppy
a reply to: Imhere
You want less “narrative” then start looking on Google maps and deleting all the newly renamed NAZI SS “Stepan Bandera” streets after 2014.
Yes, after 2014. This is the year Russia invaded Ukraine. That radicalized nationalism there and gave rise to the cult of Bandera. Can't stand this dead guy? Blame Putin for making him relevant again.
You want to “blame” Putin for idiots parding and saluting and renaming streets after some dumb Nazi SS executed loser Stepan Bandera ?
originally posted by: twistedpuppy
a reply to: Imhere
You want to “blame” Putin for idiots parding and saluting and renaming streets after some dumb Nazi SS executed loser Stepan Bandera ?
Yes, because the more oppressed people are, the more radical they become. And Ukraine suffered enough of the atrocities committed by the Russians during the second world war, during the communist times and now during the present invasion.
Their hero might not be impeccable but fought with their enemy and sacrificed his life for that fight. And only this is important for them.
And still we are talking about the margin of the whole society. Nationalists never got enough of votes to have even minimal political power. They won the local government elections at one point though.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
originally posted by: Imhere
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Imhere
Seems like you disapprove of the Allies victory over the Nazis.
What a giveaway....
You want less “narrative” then start looking on Google maps and deleting all the newly renamed NAZI SS “Stepan Bandera” streets after 2014.
Then come talk to me.
Zeleknsky is Jewish, ffs?
So, all you have is SB as an excuse to wipe out Ukraine.
Truly pathetic.
Britain and the west were chummy to Hitler also in the beginning too.
Hell, you had TIME magazine naming HITLER person of the year.
What’s important is in FACT Stalingrad. And how the Nazi SS begged to be captured by the west after being defeated.
For months, the USSR had been in negotiations with Britain and France, who had pledged to defend Poland if Germany invaded, to form a three-way alliance against Nazi aggression. Germany and the USSR, however, had signed an economic agreement the day before. Now Hitler wanted a political pact as well, an idea Molotov said he “warmly welcomed.” With battle preparation plans on hold as the European powers considered forming a united front against Germany, Hitler could not hide his urgency. “The tension between Germany and Poland has become intolerable,” he warned Stalin. “A crisis may arise any day.”
On August 23, 1939, Ribbentrop arrived with written orders in hand from Hitler to make the deal.
“The sinister news broke upon the world like an explosion,” Winston Churchill later wrote. And that was just the news the world knew about, for in addition to the non-aggression pact, the Nazis and Soviets entered into a secret protocol that only came to light after the conclusion of World War II. The two countries took a carving knife to Poland with the Germans taking the larger western slice. The Soviets were given a free hand in Bessarabia in southeast Europe and the Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Finland, while Lithuania fell into the German sphere of influence.