WATCH 1740 Russian Soldiers Destroyed By Ukrainian Forces While Advancing In Kharkiv

a reply to: 777Vader

Once again, no idea what you are on about.

Have I done something to upset you or something?

Or are you just generally rude and angry?

a reply to: 777Vader

"Another construct existing entirely inside of your head."

Eh? Godwin's law is a well known thing, it exists, outside of my head. And you have shown that it is, indeed, true.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: YourFaceAgain

The US merely agreed to not invade Ukraine and to try to stop any invading force through UN action........
We met our treaty obligations.

Possibly.
Russia was a co-signatory of The Budapest Memorandum. Quite clearly by your interpretation of the memorandum Russia did not meet its 'obligations' and broke the terms of the agreement by invading Ukraine, something it gave assurances it would not do.

Of course Russia broke the agreement. I was strictly talking about the US. The US did NOT pledge to defend Ukraine if they were invaded, as in sending our own forces to fight whoever invades them. That's not what we were required to do in the agreement.

If anyone disagrees, show me in the agreement where it says we have to fight for Ukraine if they're invaded. Not a news article by some clueless journalist. In the actual agreement itself, I'd love to see someone show me that.

I've looked at the actual agreement and I didn't see it in there.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I get it now. Godwin's Law only applies to the other side.

a reply to: 777Vader

I don't think you "get" a lot of things 😞.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Do you "get" it now?



When you represent pure blood Nazis, you don't get to invoke Godwin's Law.

It's ok to play dumb and be on the wrong side of history though.

a reply to: 777Vader

www.factcheck.org...





"Neo-Nazi, far right and xenophobic groups do exist in Ukraine, like in pretty much any other country, including Russia,” Finkel said. “They are vocal and can be prone to violence but they are numerically small, marginal and their political influence at the state level is non-existent. That is not to say that Ukraine doesn’t have a far-right problem. It does. But I would consider the KKK in the US and skinheads and neo-Nazi groups in Russia a much bigger problem and threat than the Ukrainian far right.”

You are falling for Russian propaganda.

Or just parroting it.

originally posted by: 777Vader
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Do you "get" it now?

When you represent pure blood Nazis, you don't get to invoke Godwin's Law.

It's ok to play dumb and be on the wrong side of history though.

There was a similar montage of the media downplaying Covid in the first few months of 2020. I lost it when I lost my account.

I wonder how many other subjects the media did a complete 180 on.

a reply to: YourFaceAgain

it wasn't being missed by the media, otherwise you wouldn't have those images in the first place. The fact that Zelensky is Jewish, and that Russian was planting the seed of a neo-Nazi led Ukraine, shows how easy some are to swollow the propaganda pushed by Putin to allow his war.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

BBC and FBI are Russian propaganda now...?

Good to know.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: YourFaceAgain

it wasn't being missed by the media, otherwise you wouldn't have those images in the first place. The fact that Zelensky is Jewish, and that Russian was planting the seed of a neo-Nazi led Ukraine, shows how easy some are to swollow the propaganda pushed by Putin to allow his war.

Except it was. Well, at least in Stepan Bandera streets that have been popping up and renamed after a degenerate LOSER Ukrainian NAZI SS.

You can be blue to the gill’s next months crying but it’s not going to change the outcome.

Azov is going down. Whether you like or not.

a reply to: Imhere

I really don't understand why you're so desperate to equate Azov with the cult of Bandera. Bandera is largely irrelevant in the Eastern Ukraine. Sure, Azov doesn't condemn him but they don't worship him either. It's the Western branch of Ukrainian nationalism, represented mainly by Svoboda movement, which has been organizing all the marches and celebrations glorifying Bandera.

You might find it interesting that Azov was created by the Russian speaking Ukrainians and before 2014 they maintained close relationship with the Russian nationalists. Svoboda, on the other hand, in spite of being strongly anti-Polish had cordial relationships with Polish nationalists. Nationalists are schizophrenic like that.

Yanukovych's pro-Russian politics and, subsequently, the Russian invasion in 2014 largely contributed to the radicalization of the Ukrainian nationalism and to the popularity of Bandera's cult. There would be no need for Bandera if it wasn't for the Russian oppression. Bandera's guerrillas, although definitely guilty of the war crimes against civilians, are mainly known in Ukraine for their ferocious fight against the Soviets. And the Soviets weren't any less brutal. Whole Ukrainian villages were pacified and their inhabitants were sent to Siberian gulags, many of whom died during the transportation. Then we had to mention collectivization and resulting from it poverty and starvation. This is why Bandera and his warriors are worshipped today as heroes, because they fought to the death with the oppressor who is destroying Ukraine today.

And we will see how it ends. For now the Russians can't even capture Kharkiv, which Putin himself admitted, let alone the whole Ukraine. But if he ever conquers it, as some people here prophesy, it will become another Afghanistan and he will have his hands full fighting the "Talibans" he himself created.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

"Neo-Nazi, far right and xenophobic groups do exist in Ukraine, like in pretty much any other country, including Russia,” Finkel said. “They are vocal and can be prone to violence but they are numerically small, marginal and their political influence at the state level is non-existent. That is not to say that Ukraine doesn’t have a far-right problem. It does. But I would consider the KKK in the US and skinheads and neo-Nazi groups in Russia a much bigger problem and threat than the Ukrainian far right.”

You are falling for Russian propaganda.

Or just parroting it.

Didn't we all discuss this a long time ago? Even Russia has backed off from the whole "we need to kill Nazis" propaganda. Russia has some rather large skinheads and neo-Nazi groups that are internationally connected to other groups in the EU. We also have the Wagner Group which was Putin's far-right personal army. Zelensky is Jewish and received 73% of the vote and the far-right in Ukraine never past 5% of the vote, but we all know that there is a Nazi hiding behind every tree there.

The whole Nazi thing came about after Russian's puppet was outstayed and so the Nazi thing was born.

originally posted by: twistedpuppy
This is why Bandera and his warriors are worshipped today as heroes, because they fought to the death with the oppressor who is destroying Ukraine today.

Russia starved off 1/3 of the population in Ukraine. They then shipped off 100,000s to gulags to die. They did the same thing to the indigenous people in Crimea as Russia claims Crimea was their birthplace, so they removed all there and established their own Crimea heritage as the third Roman empire.

Now they are destroying Ukraine inch by inch. They have dropped 20 million 155 artilleries alone on Ukraine, but they still say now they are doing it because Ukraine is the diamond of Russia..

a reply to: Imhere

You can be blue to the gill’s next months crying but it’s not going to change the outcome.

Doesn't matter how many insults you try throwing around to make yourself feel better you're still wrong!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

ZeroHedge
the German government revealed that it has expelled seven Ukrainian soldiers who were displaying Nazi symbols while they were in the country for training.

Wednesday's disclosure was prompted by an inquiry from the populist Alternative For Germany (AfD) party, which has been surging in popularity on a platform that opposes mass immigration, the green agenda, and the Western proxy war against Russia in Ukraine.

Among other several other questions raising concerns over Ukrainian extremism, the AfD asked if Ukrainian soldiers training in Germany had been found displaying extremist symbols, and if so, "what, if anything, has the federal government done about it."

In a four-page response posted to the German Bundestag website, the government said (per Google translate), "Seven such cases were identified during training conducted by the Bundeswehr for the Ukrainian armed forces." The transgressing Ukrainians were "repatriated" to Ukraine.

In its inquiry, AfD highlighted Ukraine's Azov Regiment, "which is classified by many experts as right-wing extremist and uses the Wolfsangel (a symbol of several SS units, banned in the Federal Republic of Germany) as a symbol."

Around the time that news of Germany's deportation of Ukrainian Nazis was breaking, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken was dining in a war-veteran-themed restaurant in Kiev. Predictably, that place is adorned with extremist imagery too:

NAZI pizza tastes better?

a reply to: Imhere

You are probably more obsessed with Bandera than any ordinary Ukrainians are.

Destroy Ukraine because - Bandera.

Even Putin has given up on his de-Nazification bollox.

a reply to: Imhere

You want to go against the Victors of world wars?

Says the person talking crap against Great Britain, you know the major country that stood up to the Nazis whilst Stalin was trying to be all chummy with Hitler??

You do seem to have a twisted view of the world my friend???