The biggest problem with the Hush money trial

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: MrGashler

It’s not conjecture if the prosecution has done a good job of piecing together what happened with documents, witnesses and even Trumps own social media posts.

The defenses argument is just nonsensical. They’re basically claiming Cohen went rogue and Trump knew nothing about it, so they want the jury to believe the NDA and checks came across Trumps desk and he was like, “who’s Stormy Daniels and why are we paying her $130,000?… oh well, we better reimburse Cohen for a NDA with this lady I never slept with and we’ll give him extra for doing a good job”… lol.

Also that whole claim about Blanche destroying Cohen is a total stretch. It was a few minutes of over 12 hours of cross examination where Blanche was shrieking and screaming at Cohen, well Cohen remained claim and stood by his story.

I just hope ATS is still around in a few weeks so I can gloat about how right I was.

Listing those payments as legal fees? not a crime.

It is a misdemeanor crime in NY and Trump has admitted on camera and in social media posts it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee. It becomes a felony if he claimed it as a legal fee so he didn’t have to declare it to the electoral commission. It’s also actually election interference.

a reply to: network dude

Trump will never sink to 29%, where Biden is sitting.
😬

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: MrGashler

It’s not conjecture if the prosecution has done a good job of piecing together what happened with documents, witnesses and even Trumps own social media posts.

The defenses argument is just nonsensical. They’re basically claiming Cohen went rogue and Trump knew nothing about it, so they want the jury to believe the NDA and checks came across Trumps desk and he was like, “who’s Stormy Daniels and why are we paying her $130,000?… oh well, we better reimburse Cohen for a NDA with this lady I never slept with and we’ll give him extra for doing a good job”… lol.

Also that whole claim about Blanche destroying Cohen is a total stretch. It was a few minutes of over 12 hours of cross examination where Blanche was shrieking and screaming at Cohen, well Cohen remained claim and stood by his story.

I just hope ATS is still around in a few weeks so I can gloat about how right I was.

Listing those payments as legal fees? not a crime.

It is a misdemeanor crime in NY and Trump has admitted on camera and in social media posts it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee. It becomes a felony if he claimed it as a legal fee so he didn’t have to declare it to the electoral commission. It’s also actually election interference.

The Americans who matter, no longer care.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: MrGashler

It’s not conjecture if the prosecution has done a good job of piecing together what happened with documents, witnesses and even Trumps own social media posts.

The defenses argument is just nonsensical. They’re basically claiming Cohen went rogue and Trump knew nothing about it, so they want the jury to believe the NDA and checks came across Trumps desk and he was like, “who’s Stormy Daniels and why are we paying her $130,000?… oh well, we better reimburse Cohen for a NDA with this lady I never slept with and we’ll give him extra for doing a good job”… lol.

Also that whole claim about Blanche destroying Cohen is a total stretch. It was a few minutes of over 12 hours of cross examination where Blanche was shrieking and screaming at Cohen, well Cohen remained claim and stood by his story.

I just hope ATS is still around in a few weeks so I can gloat about how right I was.

Listing those payments as legal fees? not a crime.

It is a misdemeanor crime in NY and Trump has admitted on camera and in social media posts it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee. It becomes a felony if he claimed it as a legal fee so he didn’t have to declare it to the electoral commission. It’s also actually election interference.

paying your lawyer, and calling it a legal fee is illegal? do tell.

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: network dude

Trump will never sink to 29%, where Biden is sitting.
😬

Check the 538 poll.

Instead of your RW polls.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: MrGashler

It’s not conjecture if the prosecution has done a good job of piecing together what happened with documents, witnesses and even Trumps own social media posts.

The defenses argument is just nonsensical. They’re basically claiming Cohen went rogue and Trump knew nothing about it, so they want the jury to believe the NDA and checks came across Trumps desk and he was like, “who’s Stormy Daniels and why are we paying her $130,000?… oh well, we better reimburse Cohen for a NDA with this lady I never slept with and we’ll give him extra for doing a good job”… lol.

Also that whole claim about Blanche destroying Cohen is a total stretch. It was a few minutes of over 12 hours of cross examination where Blanche was shrieking and screaming at Cohen, well Cohen remained claim and stood by his story.

I just hope ATS is still around in a few weeks so I can gloat about how right I was.

Listing those payments as legal fees? not a crime.

It is a misdemeanor crime in NY and Trump has admitted on camera and in social media posts it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee. It becomes a felony if he claimed it as a legal fee so he didn’t have to declare it to the electoral commission. It’s also actually election interference.

Doesn’t a misdemeanor become a felony when trying to cover up a felony (or other crime).

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: MrGashler

It’s not conjecture if the prosecution has done a good job of piecing together what happened with documents, witnesses and even Trumps own social media posts.

The defenses argument is just nonsensical. They’re basically claiming Cohen went rogue and Trump knew nothing about it, so they want the jury to believe the NDA and checks came across Trumps desk and he was like, “who’s Stormy Daniels and why are we paying her $130,000?… oh well, we better reimburse Cohen for a NDA with this lady I never slept with and we’ll give him extra for doing a good job”… lol.

Also that whole claim about Blanche destroying Cohen is a total stretch. It was a few minutes of over 12 hours of cross examination where Blanche was shrieking and screaming at Cohen, well Cohen remained claim and stood by his story.

I just hope ATS is still around in a few weeks so I can gloat about how right I was.

Listing those payments as legal fees? not a crime.

It is a misdemeanor crime in NY and Trump has admitted on camera and in social media posts it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee. It becomes a felony if he claimed it as a legal fee so he didn’t have to declare it to the electoral commission. It’s also actually election interference.

Doesn’t a misdemeanor become a felony when trying to cover up a felony (or other crime).

Yeah exactly.

They just keep asking “where’s the crime” no matter how many times you explain it to them.

originally posted by: WeMustCare

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: MrGashler

It’s not conjecture if the prosecution has done a good job of piecing together what happened with documents, witnesses and even Trumps own social media posts.

The defenses argument is just nonsensical. They’re basically claiming Cohen went rogue and Trump knew nothing about it, so they want the jury to believe the NDA and checks came across Trumps desk and he was like, “who’s Stormy Daniels and why are we paying her $130,000?… oh well, we better reimburse Cohen for a NDA with this lady I never slept with and we’ll give him extra for doing a good job”… lol.

Also that whole claim about Blanche destroying Cohen is a total stretch. It was a few minutes of over 12 hours of cross examination where Blanche was shrieking and screaming at Cohen, well Cohen remained claim and stood by his story.

I just hope ATS is still around in a few weeks so I can gloat about how right I was.

Listing those payments as legal fees? not a crime.

It is a misdemeanor crime in NY and Trump has admitted on camera and in social media posts it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee. It becomes a felony if he claimed it as a legal fee so he didn’t have to declare it to the electoral commission. It’s also actually election interference.

The Americans who matter, no longer care.

I’m sure plenty won’t care. Still though, might be a lot of politically moderate people out there who are considering voting for Trump and may change there minds once he’s a convicted felon. A lot of people wouldn’t want a felon mowing there lawn, let alone running the country… lol.

a reply to: JadedGhost

All without exhibiting any proof of anything. 🤣🤣🤣

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JadedGhost

All without exhibiting any proof of anything. 🤣🤣🤣

Because "things" just mysteriously happen around Trump without his knowledge.

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: MrGashler

It’s not conjecture if the prosecution has done a good job of piecing together what happened with documents, witnesses and even Trumps own social media posts.

The defenses argument is just nonsensical. They’re basically claiming Cohen went rogue and Trump knew nothing about it, so they want the jury to believe the NDA and checks came across Trumps desk and he was like, “who’s Stormy Daniels and why are we paying her $130,000?… oh well, we better reimburse Cohen for a NDA with this lady I never slept with and we’ll give him extra for doing a good job”… lol.

Also that whole claim about Blanche destroying Cohen is a total stretch. It was a few minutes of over 12 hours of cross examination where Blanche was shrieking and screaming at Cohen, well Cohen remained claim and stood by his story.

I just hope ATS is still around in a few weeks so I can gloat about how right I was.

Listing those payments as legal fees? not a crime.

It is a misdemeanor crime in NY and Trump has admitted on camera and in social media posts it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee. It becomes a felony if he claimed it as a legal fee so he didn’t have to declare it to the electoral commission. It’s also actually election interference.

Doesn’t a misdemeanor become a felony when trying to cover up a felony (or other crime).

Yeah exactly.

They just keep asking “where’s the crime” no matter how many times you explain it to them.

perhaps I missed it, if so, be a lamb and link it for me please?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JadedGhost

All without exhibiting any proof of anything. 🤣🤣🤣

Because "things" just mysteriously happen around Trump without his knowledge.

I don't think you have a good grasp on the facts here. Trump likely porked Stormy. not a crime. However it happened, she got an NDA and cash to keep her mouth closed rather than the usual. not a crime. It looks like Cohen paid for it out of his own means, and Trump paid him back, along with his fee for being a dickface for hire, not a crime. Then the payment was done in segments and noted as a legal expense. Now "dickface for hire" wasn't on ther dropdown, but "legal expense" was. so far, this appears to be the crime. If there is more, I will need it explained to me as if I was a small child.

a reply to: network dude

It’s not even a matter of if a crime occurred, Cohen was literally convicted for it. That’s the flaw in the claim that there is no crime.

Only question is if Trump was personally involved.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: network dude

It’s not even a matter of if a crime occurred, Cohen was literally convicted for it. That’s the flaw in the claim that there is no crime.

Only question is if Trump was personally involved.

Cohen was convicted of crimes but not the crime(s) in this case. Different charges.

Not Guilty!

by reasonable DOUBT! 😀

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: JadedGhost

All without exhibiting any proof of anything. 🤣🤣🤣

Because "things" just mysteriously happen around Trump without his knowledge.

No proof was ever presented Trump ordered or even knew the ledger accounting was not what the charges say. 🤣🤣

it was a reimbursement, not a legal fee.

This is not a federal case. There is nothing in the indictment about campaign contributions. Cohens crime was tax evasion. He pled 'guilty' to this charge. He was not 'found guilty'. There was no real evidence but he agreed, as he has stated, because he wanted a lighter sentence in return for testifying against Trump.

He says this in his testimony.

I have explained this over and over and over. We continue to get responses like this, from you...

Yeah exactly. They just keep asking “where’s the crime” no matter how many times you explain it to them.

I asked a simple question. Please explain how he would be found guilty of his actual charges? You have yet to answer.

a reply to: network dude

a reply to: matafuchs

Facts always bewilder these jokers.

They are either too stupid to understand no real crime has been committed or they just don’t care that the Democrats are trying to stop Trump from beating the sh!t out of Biden any way they can.

They are so desperate that they pin their hopes on a convicted perjurer and a porn star that have lied dozens of times about every subject they get asked about.

The desperation reeks of steaming dog sh!t.

originally posted by: RazorV66
a reply to: network dude

a reply to: matafuchs



They are so desperate that they pin their hopes on a convicted perjurer and a porn star that have lied dozens of times about every subject they get asked about.

They did the same thing with Avenatti.
That didn't work out so well for them.
Now, Avenatti is in jail and thinks they're all idiots.

a reply to: Annee

Hey Dear Annee,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Did you Ever Wonder Why the MSM Keeps Calling Mr. Trump's Trial in " NYC " a " Hush Money " Case ? Well , I Wonder , and I Smell a " Setup " to this from the beginning . My Point is , how Can you Not Feel for this Unfortunate Man's Present Plight with this Injustice System in New York State ? I Mean , Come On Girl , Suppose it was You Personally and Not Mr. Trump on Trial here ? How would You Personally React and Deal with such an Injustice > ?

a reply to: matafuchs

COHEN concealed more than $4 million in personal income from the IRS, made false statements to a federally-insured financial institution in connection with a $500,000 home equity loan, and, in 2016, caused $280,000 in payments to be made to silence two women who otherwise planned to speak publicly about their alleged affairs with a presidential candidate, thereby intending to influence the 2016 presidential election.

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