Breaking Baltimore, ship brings down bridge, mass casualties

originally posted by: IndieA
Maybe they already know exactly what happened.

In my mind, I'd have to agree with you. How else could they say what it wasn't, a cyber attack, within minutes of it happening unless they knew what it was?

a reply to: Station27

The NTSB is an independent five person board. No more than three members can come from the same political party. Currently, three of the members were appointed by Trump.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: Station27

The NTSB is an independent five person board. No more than three members can come from the same political party. Currently, three of the members were appointed by Trump.

Yeahbut whatabout all the "investigator" Teams that could be bought off? 😀

a reply to: xuenchen

Where are the TRUTH FSK teams like we had after 9/11? Oh, thats right. Those were created so no one would know 93 was shot down.

Steering Gear Requirements

Every vessel should be provided with main steering gear and auxiliary steering gear.

The article goes on to explain main and auxillary steering are to be completely independent of each other and that switchover should take no longer than 30 seconds.

If one believes this was just an accident then they'll believe anything.

originally posted by: Station27

originally posted by: Threadbarer
NTSB will perform an investigation no matter who pays for the bridge.

You mean the National Transportation Safety Board? The federal agency that's currently part of the Biden Regime? Yeah, I'd trust them and any other federal agency connected to Biden about as far as I can throw them.

You mean the NTSB that was established in 1967.
The one that was moved outside of the Govt by Congress in 1974.
The one that has a split of Democrat and Repulican members on its 5 person board.
Including 2 people nominated by the last POTUS.

Anyone else find it weird that after all this time there is no official story of what happened?

I hear things like "the bridge collapsed because it lost structural integrity.". That's like saying it broke because it was hit. We know that. We want to know what happened.

There are tons of "experts" who talk about shipping and blah blah blah, but no new info.

Did I miss something?

It seems to me like within a day or two they would have given us a play by play of events. Again am I missing something? Did I miss the part where they said what happened?

The longer we go without some sort of explanation the more suspicious it seems.

originally posted by: 5thHead
Anyone else find it weird that after all this time there is no official story of what happened?

I hear things like "the bridge collapsed because it lost structural integrity.". That's like saying it broke because it was hit. We know that. We want to know what happened.

There are tons of "experts" who talk about shipping and blah blah blah, but no new info.

Did I miss something?

It seems to me like within a day or two they would have given us a play by play of events. Again am I missing something? Did I miss the part where they said what happened?

The longer we go without some sort of explanation the more suspicious it seems.

I suggest it was a tragic accident. Much like Derwent River Bridge, Hobart Tasmania in 1975.

Kind regards,

bally

a reply to: 5thHead


The facts as they have been reported indicate that the ship lost power 2x , it then hit a bridge that like many bridges in this country was not structurally sound and that iimpact caused it to collapse.

Their are timelines provided by the NTSB that match recordings and transcripts.

Which pieces of info do you feel are missing?

a reply to: Phoenix

I don't think anyone is saying the steering was the problem.

What are the requirements for the engines? It appears those were the ones that failed.

a reply to: 5thHead

NTSB investigations can take upward of a year.

a reply to: opethPA

If engines failed, they take a while to start, and they don't start by themselves. The 2 "lost power" stories don't have enough time to happen. oops. If it was the engines. Same with electric power. 😉

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: 5thHead

NTSB investigations can take upward of a year.

It takes a long time to craft believable lies, yes.

originally posted by: opethPA
a reply to: 5thHead


The facts as they have been reported indicate that the ship lost power 2x , it then hit a bridge that like many bridges in this country was not structurally sound and that iimpact caused it to collapse.

Their are timelines provided by the NTSB that match recordings and transcripts.

Which pieces of info do you feel are missing?

But why and how did it lose power 2x? What happened?

And again saying it collapsed because it was hit is not an answer. We know that. We want to know what happened.

I realize the full investigation could take a long time but within a day or two they should know the basics. Don't the crew have some story to tell?

Also you say the bridge wasn't structurally sound. I don't believe that. If you watch the video the ship takes out the support structure and ithe bridge is still standing. It's not until the engines come back on (you can see water shooting up from the bottom of the boat) that the bridge is shaken again and it finally collapses. It looks to me like someone wanted to finish the job.

And shouldn't there be more videos?

After 9/11 would you say " the buildings collapsed because planes hit them. Problem solved. Move along."

Would you blame the towers for not being structurally sound ?

originally posted by: 5thHead
If you watch the video the ship takes out the support structure and ithe bridge is still standing.

At what time does that happen in the video below?

a reply to: ArMaP

About 5 minutes in the boat has come to a complete stop. It's hard to tell exactly when it hits. (Where are more videos?) But the smoke has already happened the thing is dark it is at a complete stop for about a minute.

There is only one reason the boat stops. It is because it has hit the bridge. That's the only thing that fits the official narrative.

5.30 the engines go full blast. You can see the water shooting up from the bottom of the boat. The bridge is shaken and the bridge immediately falls.


Eta but it's hard to tell from the video. Seems like they could just hold a press conference and say yeah, we interviewed the captain and here's what he described.

originally posted by: 5thHead

originally posted by: opethPA
a reply to: 5thHead


The facts as they have been reported indicate that the ship lost power 2x , it then hit a bridge that like many bridges in this country was not structurally sound and that iimpact caused it to collapse.

Their are timelines provided by the NTSB that match recordings and transcripts.

Which pieces of info do you feel are missing?

But why and how did it lose power 2x? What happened?

And again saying it collapsed because it was hit is not an answer. We know that. We want to know what happened.

I realize the full investigation could take a long time but within a day or two they should know the basics. Don't the crew have some story to tell?

Yet when information was presented by official sources early on the stance of CT's was that it was too quick.

originally posted by: 5thHead
Also you say the bridge wasn't structurally sound. I don't believe that. If you watch the video the ship takes out the support structure and ithe bridge is still standing. It's not until the engines come back on (you can see water shooting up from the bottom of the boat) that the bridge is shaken again and it finally collapses. It looks to me like someone wanted to finish the job.

And shouldn't there be more videos?

There are 167 million crossings on 42,400 bridges rated in poor condition ...

... 1 in 3 U.S. Bridges Needs Repair or Replacement...

... Over 222,000 spans need repair, including 76,600 bridges that should be replaced...

Of the bridges needing repair, nearly 42,400 are rated in poor condition and classified as “structurally deficient.” Motorists c ross these structures 167 million times a day. 

The number of bridges in poor condition declined by 560 compared to 2022. At the current pace, it would take nearly 75 years to  repair them all.  

artbabridgereport.org...
(the last 4 quotes above come from the full report linked on that page)

MOre videos of what? It was at night on a river when a boat lost power and crashed into a bridge. We saw videos of that , we saw videos of the bridge collapse and the aftermath.

originally posted by: 5thHead
After 9/11 would you say " the buildings collapsed because planes hit them. Problem solved. Move along."

Would you blame the towers for not being structurally sound ?

9/11 was a much different event then this. You asked where the info was and Im asking what info do you want tht hasnt been released.

No one blamed the bridge for collapsing but if you are going to ignore the fact that structural soundness plays into it then good on you

a reply to: 5thHead

I don't think the ship stopped, for two reasons:
1 - It's not possible to stop a ship of that size in such a short time;
2 - If the ship was moving directly to the camera it would appear to be stopped.

I will try to find a better copy, as I only noticed now that this is a recording from a screen in which someone was watching (and interacting with, near the end) the video.