Breaking Baltimore, ship brings down bridge, mass casualties

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High Pressure Gas Pipeline Halts Salvage of MV Dali

a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

"Was discovered"?

They didn't know it was there?

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

"Was discovered"?

They didn't know it was there?

Who should we think was supposed to know right away? Geniuses are scarce these days. 😬

very strange wording from that article maybe not to be translated literally:

Salvage efforts to remove the MV Dali from Baltimore’s Key Bridge were delayed indefinitely yesterday after a high-pressure subsea natural gas pipeline was discovered under the wreckage.

😀boing-ing-ing-ing

a reply to: ArMaP

reading the article it seems the salvage people didn't know it was there.

from the linked article, during what i would call checking the area out for other hazards that may have caused further problems

The concern came during the due diligence process when salvage engineers discovered a high-pressure gas line near the wreckage.

they found the pipeline informed the owners and shut it down,

A pipeline safety expert from PHMSA confirmed concerns about a particular pipeline. They informed us, off the record, that the operator was notified and the pipeline has been isolated and depressurized. PHMSA records indicate that the pipeline, which carries natural gas under high pressure, is owned by Baltimore Gas And Electric (BGE). It remains unclear when BGE was alerted and when the pipeline was shut down.

The gas pipeline has been shown in the public viewer , long before the accident


The National Pipeline Mapping System (NPMS) Public Viewer

originally posted by: Kenzo


The gas pipeline has been shown in the public viewer , long before the accident


The National Pipeline Mapping System (NPMS) Public Viewer

How could they have missed it! 😀

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: ArMaP

reading the article it seems the salvage people didn't know it was there.

They should have been told about it before they started.

Where I live all gas, water, sewage, rain water pipes, electricity, telephone, TV and Internet underground cables are mapped, so anyone doing any kind of work knows what to expect.

I find it strange nobody mentioned a natural gas pipeline.

a reply to: Cavemannick

Another Coinky dink (nuch nuch nuch) ........

Cruise ship on Danube River in Austria loses power and crashes into lock wall

www.newsday.com...

One would think some sort of conspiracy involved ? Right ........ ??

Maybe they were hoping for a large explosion to remove the evidence?

a reply to: ArMaP

They should have been told about it before they started.
Where I live all gas, water, sewage, rain water pipes, electricity, telephone, TV and Internet underground cables are mapped, so anyone doing any kind of work knows what to expect.

they are mapped, and i'm pretty sure it's done by all three government entities, county, state, and feds or at least have a copy of the recourds. that's part of what the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration ( PHMSA ) does.
here in the county i live in Florida when ever they start a new building project be it roads housing or industrial , commercial building, crews are out putting different color little flags for which ever line it is. all up and down the area. on roads it will go on for miles and miles.

I find it strange nobody mentioned a natural gas pipeline

so do i, you would think somebody at Baltimore Gas And Electric (BGE) would have gotten on the phone just as soon as they saw what had happened and warned them about it worrying that some of the millions of tons of debris might have cracked or busted the line.


ETA: here is the mapping site for PHMSA

The National Pipeline Mapping System contains information about hazardous liquid and gas transmission pipelines under the jurisdiction of US DOT

a reply to: matafuchs

I suppose it would need an oxygen source to create an explosion, and there's not much free oxygen under water.

It's one heck of a coincidence this took out a major bridge and almost took out a Natural Gas Pipeline.

What did we do to Russia: took out their major bridge and blew up their natural gas pipeline (Nord stream).

Dali Owners Deny Fault in Baltimore Key Bridge Collapse in Latest Filing in Federal Court

In a court petition, Dali’s owner, Grace Ocean Private Limited, “denied any fault or neglect of the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge.”

Grace Ocean Private Limited and Dali’s ship manager, Synergy Marine Pte Ltd, requested in the petition to be exonerated from all liability for the Key bridge’s collapse.

A portion of the filing obtained by Independent states, “The [bridge collapse] was not due to any fault, neglect, or want of care on the part of [ship owner & operator], the Vessel, or any persons or entities for whose acts [ship owner & operator] may be responsible.”

The filing also requests the court to cap any liability at $43.6 million.

a reply to: IndieA

And people doubted there would be years of litigation before the ship owners handed over a dime.

a reply to: Threadbarer

Yes. I got dogpiled for daring to suggest that.

Guess I was right about it?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: IndieA

And people doubted there would be years of litigation before the ship owners handed over a dime.

How are the ship owners responsible?

1. The ship was under the control of harbor masters.

2. The ship's power went out at a most important and key moment, seemingly by accident.

3. The bridge's structural integrity seemed to be poor at best.

I really think we need to determine what caused the power outage before we can place blame.

For all we know, the bridge collapse was caused by a strategic cyber attack as part of an undeclared war.

originally posted by: IndieA
For all we know, the bridge collapse was caused by a strategic cyber attack as part of an undeclared war.

Now that President Biden has said that the United States government will pay to replace the bridge, will that give the insurance company an easy way to weasel out of paying a settlement? Which would also preclude them having to pay for the cost to do an extensive full investigation as to the actual cause?

I doubt the public will ever find out the truth as to what happened. And Biden may have facilitated that to be the result - no true investigation. Makes a person wonder....

a reply to: Station27

NTSB will perform an investigation no matter who pays for the bridge.

a reply to: Station27

Which would also preclude them having to pay for the cost to do an extensive full investigation as to the actual cause?

I would think that the Federal government would do a full investigation for the sake of national security. Then again, I thought the same thing about the 2020 election.

Maybe they already know exactly what happened.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
NTSB will perform an investigation no matter who pays for the bridge.

You mean the National Transportation Safety Board? The federal agency that's currently part of the Biden Regime? Yeah, I'd trust them and any other federal agency connected to Biden about as far as I can throw them.