California officer shoots and kills a 15-year old autistic boy

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Venkuish1

Perhaps the USA is a police state, and not the pinnacle of freedom and liberty that its citizens have been told it is?

It definitely seems to incarcerate more of its own citizens than any other country.

If you read my posts I said many times that the state has lost the plot. Almost everyone can have access to guns and use them. When you have easy access to guns and use them and then the officers are not trained well and just shoot to injure or kill then the number of gun related crimes and police related deaths is expected to be huge!

You clearly have no clue as to how police officers are trained to respond, do you?

So, why spout off on a topic you know nothing about?

Just to show off your ignorance?

If so, bravo! Well done!

You have succeeded brilliantly!

They are not trained well in the US.
If you see the post by @bastion he explains well his is the training in his country (presumably the UK). In the UK citizens don't have access to guns and police officers are not 'cowboy' officers. Are much more reasonable, they don't usually have guns, but the officers who use them rarely kill citizens. You do understand the chaotic difference in this approach?

I understand you may not like my posts because I don't subscribe to the supernatural nonsense pushed in other threads but to argue that almost unrestricted access to guns and gun use have no consequences it's probably worse than the various claims made in support of the supernatural world...

If yall would still had yalls guns then the Autralians police would not had locked down your people as hard as they did in australia. talk about GOV giving you freedom instead of being born with it and the Gov not being able to tell you what to do.

I am not 100% sure of what you are trying to say but I think guns could not have prevented lockdowns and the use of guns would have resulted in many deaths and injuries. Just look at what is happening in the US. I am not from Australia.

a reply to: Venkuish1

Are you American and want to disregard the Constitution or are you a foreigner trying to understand?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Venkuish1

Are you American and want to disregard the Constitution or are you a foreigner trying to understand?

What does 'disregard the constitution' mean?

Do we all need to accept this madness?

Do you think is going to get better in the future?

a reply to: Venkuish1

Ahhh, so American.

And you consider the 2nd Amendment, "madness"?

a reply to: Venkuish1

I think we need to do it like Switzerland and give everyone firearms after they serve in the military. I would have loved to keep my MP5.

I think this is very appropriate for this discussion.




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originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Venkuish1

Perhaps the USA is a police state, and not the pinnacle of freedom and liberty that its citizens have been told it is?

It definitely seems to incarcerate more of its own citizens than any other country.

If you read my posts I said many times that the state has lost the plot. Almost everyone can have access to guns and use them. When you have easy access to guns and use them and then the officers are not trained well and just shoot to injure or kill then the number of gun related crimes and police related deaths is expected to be huge!

You clearly have no clue as to how police officers are trained to respond, do you?

So, why spout off on a topic you know nothing about?

Just to show off your ignorance?

If so, bravo! Well done!

You have succeeded brilliantly!

They are not trained well in the US.
If you see the post by @bastion he explains well his is the training in his country (presumably the UK). In the UK citizens don't have access to guns and police officers are not 'cowboy' officers. Are much more reasonable, they don't usually have guns, but the officers who use them rarely kill citizens. You do understand the chaotic difference in this approach?

I understand you may not like my posts because I don't subscribe to the supernatural nonsense pushed in other threads but to argue that almost unrestricted access to guns and gun use have no consequences it's probably worse than the various claims made in support of the supernatural world...

If yall would still had yalls guns then the Autralians police would not had locked down your people as hard as they did in australia. talk about GOV giving you freedom instead of being born with it and the Gov not being able to tell you what to do.

I am not 100% sure of what you are trying to say but I think guns could not have prevented lockdowns and the use of guns would have resulted in many deaths and injuries. Just look at what is happening in the US. I am not from Australia.

the THREAT of the use of guns would had prevented the hard lockdown the australians were put under. And OPPSIE i replied to the wrong person,my bad. And America is fine. most gun deaths are from CRIMINALS and their killing of OTHER criminals.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Venkuish1

Ahhh, so American.

And you consider the 2nd Amendment, "madness"?

Is this what you understood or you are attacking the strawman?

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Venkuish1

Ahhh, so American.

And you consider the 2nd Amendment, "madness"?

Is this what you understood or you are attacking the strawman?

Just replying to your post.

Now you sound like an agenda-driven troll.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Venkuish1

Perhaps the USA is a police state, and not the pinnacle of freedom and liberty that its citizens have been told it is?

It definitely seems to incarcerate more of its own citizens than any other country.

If you read my posts I said many times that the state has lost the plot. Almost everyone can have access to guns and use them. When you have easy access to guns and use them and then the officers are not trained well and just shoot to injure or kill then the number of gun related crimes and police related deaths is expected to be huge!

You clearly have no clue as to how police officers are trained to respond, do you?

So, why spout off on a topic you know nothing about?

Just to show off your ignorance?

If so, bravo! Well done!

You have succeeded brilliantly!

They are not trained well in the US.
If you see the post by @bastion he explains well his is the training in his country (presumably the UK). In the UK citizens don't have access to guns and police officers are not 'cowboy' officers. Are much more reasonable, they don't usually have guns, but the officers who use them rarely kill citizens. You do understand the chaotic difference in this approach?

I understand you may not like my posts because I don't subscribe to the supernatural nonsense pushed in other threads but to argue that almost unrestricted access to guns and gun use have no consequences it's probably worse than the various claims made in support of the supernatural world...

If yall would still had yalls guns then the Autralians police would not had locked down your people as hard as they did in australia. talk about GOV giving you freedom instead of being born with it and the Gov not being able to tell you what to do.

I am not 100% sure of what you are trying to say but I think guns could not have prevented lockdowns and the use of guns would have resulted in many deaths and injuries. Just look at what is happening in the US. I am not from Australia.

the THREAT of the use of guns would had prevented the hard lockdown the australians were put under. And OPPSIE i replied to the wrong person,my bad. And America is fine. most gun deaths are from CRIMINALS and their killing of OTHER criminals.

It looks like you replied to the wrong person.

Really difficult to convince others if you think this madness with gun related deaths and police related incidents can go for longer. It's already out of control.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Venkuish1

Ahhh, so American.

And you consider the 2nd Amendment, "madness"?

Is this what you understood or you are attacking the strawman?

Just replying to your post.

Now you sound like an agenda-driven troll.

But you seem to be attacking the strawman rather than replying to my post.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Venkuish1

Ahhh, so American.

And you consider the 2nd Amendment, "madness"?

Is this what you understood or you are attacking the strawman?

Just replying to your post.

Now you sound like an agenda-driven troll.

But you seem to be attacking the strawman rather than replying to my post.

I've addressed your post.

Don't attack cops.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think everyone in this world shares your interpretation of the second amendment or that every American is in favour of gun ownership/use. The gun related deaths and their frequency is what people call madness.

a reply to: TheMichiganSwampBuck

Interesting. As a student of Goju-Ryu way back in my young life I didn't know that. Thanks for some reading to do

originally posted by: Venkuish1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think everyone in this world shares your interpretation of the second amendment or that every American is in favour of gun ownership/use. The gun related deaths and their frequency is what people call madness.

I don't F###ing care what the rest of the world thinks.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights reigns supreme in America.

Deal with it or move out.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think everyone in this world shares your interpretation of the second amendment or that every American is in favour of gun ownership/use. The gun related deaths and their frequency is what people call madness.

I don't F###ing care what the rest of the world thinks.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights reigns supreme in America.

Deal with it or move out.

I'm pretty sure he/she doesn't live here and is not a US citizen.

I believe I saw that he/she is an Australian.

Thank God for small mercies.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think everyone in this world shares your interpretation of the second amendment or that every American is in favour of gun ownership/use. The gun related deaths and their frequency is what people call madness.

I don't F###ing care what the rest of the world thinks.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights reigns supreme in America.

Deal with it or move out.

So, should we just trust your instinct and your interpretations of the second amendment? That would be very risky after all.

Why do you think every American is in favour of gun ownership and use? Just because you are it doesn't imply everyone else is.

See what happens when people have almost unrestricted access to guns? Is not rocket science.

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think everyone in this world shares your interpretation of the second amendment or that every American is in favour of gun ownership/use. The gun related deaths and their frequency is what people call madness.

I don't F###ing care what the rest of the world thinks.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights reigns supreme in America.

Deal with it or move out.

I'm pretty sure he/she doesn't live here and is not a US citizen.

I believe I saw that he/she is an Australian.

Thank God for small mercies.

Australian? Not really.
But Australia hasn't lost the plot when it comes to gun ownership and use. Just like New Zealand, the UK, Germany, and the rest of the European countries.

originally posted by: Venkuish1
Do you think everyone in this world shares your interpretation of the second amendment

Already said ... we don't give a rats ass what foreigners think of our second amendment.

or that every American is in favour of gun ownership/use.

Any American that doesn't like the 2nd Amendment can go screw himself.
It's a Constitutional right to self defense.

You have not directly answered the question ... are you an American?
I don't think you are.
You use 'favour' instead of 'favor' - which is ENGLAND.
And the times you are on this board are when a person would be active in ENGLAND, not USA.
And you care more about foreigner opinion than American.

I"m still leaning towards alienborg/leviathan4/captainx etc etc with you
no matter you denial.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: SchrodingersRat

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you think everyone in this world shares your interpretation of the second amendment or that every American is in favour of gun ownership/use. The gun related deaths and their frequency is what people call madness.

I don't F###ing care what the rest of the world thinks.

The Constitution and Bill of Rights reigns supreme in America.

Deal with it or move out.

I'm pretty sure he/she doesn't live here and is not a US citizen.

I believe I saw that he/she is an Australian.

Thank God for small mercies.

Australian? Not really.
But Australia hasn't lost the plot when it comes to gun ownership and use. Just like New Zealand, the UK, Germany, and the rest of the European countries.

So confident in your opinions that you don't even have the guts to say what country you're from but you expect ANYONE here to take your opinions seriously? What are you ashamed of? I can't think of a single other member in the 15 years or so that I've been here that would hesitate to answer that - especially if it could help give context to their positions in a given discussion since culture and life experience are very informing of a person's opinion. That's just a fact.

BTW - Do they have mental health services available in your country?

Just asking for a friend...