Shocking poll reveals that 37% of Americans believe in creationism

nevermind.

a reply to: LSU2018

The difference between science and religion is pretty much their methodologies and goals.

Science relies on empirical evidence, experimentation, and the scientific method to investigate and understand natural phenomena, whereas religion relies on faith, revelation, holy texts, and tradition as sources of knowledge.

They serve different purposes and employ different methods for understanding the world.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: pennylane123
a reply to: Venkuish1

Just like you dismiss simulation theory,

Is not a scientific theory but a speculation. No evidence exists we live in a simulation. On the other hand evolution is both a scientific theory and a fact.

I am glad you make that distinction....

Then you can honestly admit that Evolution is a theory. A theory written around what we see and think happened. Nothing is proven.

Nothing.

It's yobs like you that are making me question the logic of the earth being a sphere.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: LSU2018

Is not my theory LSU2018.

Quantum field theory was developed by numerous people over the course of the 20th century.

It's not attributed to any single individual, but rather the result of contributions from many scientists.

And overall the theory is firmly grounded in the scientific method, supported by experimentation and empirical evidence.

en.wikipedia.org...
plato.stanford.edu...
www.damtp.cam.ac.uk...

I never said it was your theory. I said "more theories and no facts".

a reply to: LSU2018

Like i suggested through, and as those links posted clearly show and establish.

Quantum field theory is supported by experimentation carried out over course of the 20th century and supported by empirical evidence.

So if you can come up with a better solution, or one that supplants the current accepted scientific explanation.

Go for it buddy......might be interesting.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: MykeNukem


One thing is CERTAIN; mankind as we are today was not miraculously made in our current form by some omnipotent entity in his own image.
We evolved from other life forms over billions and billions of years....and we are still evolving - though polls and threads like this make me seriously think we are actually de-evolving as a species.

That's not certain... That's a theory and a theory isn't a proven fact.

You are confused desire the fact there are a lot of posts explaining the difference between scientific theory and scientific hypothesis or speculation.

You keep dismissing making erroneous statements.

I'm not confused. I'm questioning how you can push a theory as a fact. Your explanations are boring and remind me of someone using common core math and a whole sheet of paper to explain how 4 has evolved and now 2+2=5. At the end of the day, 2+2 still equals 4 just like it did 4.3 billion years ago.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Phantom42338

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Venkuish1

Believe it or not, there are still kids out there with enough common sense to question why monkeys are still living among humans if humans evolved from monkeys. But hey, it's your choice to believe you evolved out of a monkey lol.

Can you please point to a biology textbook that says that humans came from monkeys. You don't understand evolution. Evolution is about speciation, not one species turning into another. When a population is isolated and cannot mate with the previous population, it is now a new species. They may be related genetically but they are a different species.

You don't understand "theory" either. Look it up.

We've all seen the theory of evolution. We all know a theory is an unproven idea, not a fact.

That's wrong. See posts above.

You keep arguing matters that are demonstrably false.

LoL!

Let you tell it...

originally posted by: theatreboy

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: pennylane123
a reply to: Venkuish1

Just like you dismiss simulation theory,

Is not a scientific theory but a speculation. No evidence exists we live in a simulation. On the other hand evolution is both a scientific theory and a fact.

I am glad you make that distinction....

Then you can honestly admit that Evolution is a theory. A theory written around what we see and think happened. Nothing is proven.

Nothing.

It's yobs like you that are making me question the logic of the earth being a sphere.

I think you misrepresented me...

Is not a scientific theory but a speculation. No evidence exists we live in a simulation. On the other hand evolution is both a scientific theory and a fact.

That we live in a simulation is speculation and not a fact. Evolution on the other hand is a fact. It's also described as a scientific theory but I understand that you are not able to make the distinction between scientific theory, scientific hypothesis, speculation, and so on.

I haven't admitted anything, only stated facts. But every creationist in every thread around here makes exactly the same erroneous arguments.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
nevermind.

Good

It seems that all the discussion has ignored the fact that the study in the op is terribly flawed.

One can argue that a wall is red and another can argue that a wall is brick. Both are looking at the same red brick wall.

Religion is to answer the why. Science is to answer the how. They are not mutually exclusive in any way.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: MykeNukem




One thing is CERTAIN; mankind as we are today was not miraculously made in our current form by some omnipotent entity in his own image.
We evolved from other life forms over billions and billions of years....and we are still evolving - though polls and threads like this make me seriously think we are actually de-evolving as a species.

That's not certain... That's a theory and a theory isn't a proven fact.

You are confused desire the fact there are a lot of posts explaining the difference between scientific theory and scientific hypothesis or speculation.

You keep dismissing making erroneous statements.

I'm not confused. I'm questioning how you can push a theory as a fact. Your explanations are boring and remind me of someone using common core math and a whole sheet of paper to explain how 4 has evolved and now 2+2=5. At the end of the day, 2+2 still equals 4 just like it did 4.3 billion years ago.

You are still unable to distinguish between scientific theory and a scientific hypothesis or even what is pure speculation.

We haven't evolved from the monkeys. People who claim we have just show how irrelevant they are with the subject. They re going further by arguing that if we have evolved from monkeys then why do monkeys don't evolve to become humans.

Total confusion!

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: LSU2018

Is not my theory LSU2018.

Quantum field theory was developed by numerous people over the course of the 20th century.

It's not attributed to any single individual, but rather the result of contributions from many scientists.

And overall the theory is firmly grounded in the scientific method, supported by experimentation and empirical evidence.

en.wikipedia.org...
plato.stanford.edu...
www.damtp.cam.ac.uk...

I never said it was your theory. I said "more theories and no facts".

More unsubstantiated claims based on your erroneous idea of what a scientific theory is.

a reply to: LSU2018

Scientific theory isn't the same as me having a theory of how my cat got stuck in a tree or something.

a reply to: BeyondKnowledge3

Religion is to answer the why. Science is to answer the how. They are not mutually exclusive in any way.

That's rather eloquently put BeyondKnowledge3.

You have captured a commonly held perspective on the relationship between the two.

Overall, religion and science can coexist and even complement each other, which would seem to be the case for many people.

As to the exact nature of their relationship, well that can vary depending on a person's individual beliefs and interpretations.

Context and perspective also play their part.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: nugget1
There's an increasing distrust of 'the science' these days, and not without reason. When academia partners with government 'the facts' can get muddy as they're mixed in with agenda.

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That's something very different to what I am describing. Creationism is not a modern view of the origin of humans or the world and the universe. Evolution is a fact and not a product of corrupt science/scientists.

Evolution is a theory, just like the Big Bang.

Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. If you think a scientific theory is some kind of speculation based on beliefs or a speculation broadly speaking.

And we didn't evolve from the monkeys. I see you are asking yourself the same ridiculous questions other creationists have been asking over various threads.

'if we evolved from the monkeys then why don't monkeys evolve to become humans'

This is why the educational system has been failing for a number of years.

A scientific theory is based on ideas that can't be proven, thus remaining a theory.

I never said "if we evolved from monkeys then why don't monkeys evolve to become humans", though I'm starting to slowly question that.

You clearly don't know what are you talking about just like al creationists who completely disregard science, evidence and facts.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: ColeYounger2
a reply to: Venkuish1

So tell me, when exactly did science debunk creationism, as you claim? Sorry, but a dogmatic belief in evolution as the
catch-all answer doesn't cut it anymore.

Why can scientists look at a relatively simple machine, like an outboard motor, and every one of them would agree that someone obviously designed it, but show them something infinitely mote complex, like DNA, and they'll scoff if you suggest that there is a creator behind it.

Do some research on irreducible complexity. It's all over the place in the natural world. Whether you want to assign it a name, like "God" or not, something is designing it.

I didn't make a claim but stated a fact.
Evolution is a fact.

Creationism is an outdated end debunked view and this is a fact.

Creationism has been asserted by religious people without a shred of evidence to support the claims made in its favour. But basic high school science shows exactly the opposite of what creationists have claimed over centuries if not millennia.

I am not disagreeing that evolution exists. Adaptation and speciation is Biology 101.
I'm debating your statement that "creationism has been debunked". Who debunked it, and when? You don't even seem to be aware that a large number of scientists believe that intelligent design exists.

It's strange how an internet search for "intelligent design" brings up numerous sites that immediately make the "it's pseudoscience" argument. For instance, here's Wikipedia:
Intelligent design is a pseudoscientific argument for the existence of God, presented by its proponents as "an evidence-based scientific theory about .

Yet, I can find lenghty, scholarly discussions from scientists who will state outrightly that they believe in God.
Here's a mathematics professor:


Here's a physician-geneticist:

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: LSU2018

Scientific theory isn't the same as me having a theory of how my cat got stuck in a tree or something.

It has been explained any times but they don't even want to look up the definition of what a scientific theory is.

originally posted by: Venkuish1

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Venkuish1

I don't need "peer reviewed" crap to know a theory is an idea. Peer reviewed BS is what got us to where we are now, meaning people like you trying to tell us that a theory is a fact. That's herd mentality in its purest form.

That says it all !!!

I suppose you don't even read anything related to science not even if it's at a basic level.

That should say it all !!! I love science, I love learning and watching how water rusts metal or how salty, humid air causes an unoccupied castle near the sea to dilapidate and fall apart, or how wind and sand cut through rocks in the desert and change their shapes, etc.. I just don't buy into the evolutionary side of humanity. If that aggravates you, I don't know what to tell you. Doesn't bother me a bit that you believe something I don't, and I don't know why it bothers you so much that others don't believe what you do. That's a little on the creepy side to be honest.

a reply to: Venkuish1

Other people's beliefs are none of your business unless of course, they lead to criminality that threatens you personally. It's still a free country where people can believe in whatever they want too. If you want to be surrounded by pure secularists, move to France.

originally posted by: Phantom42338
a reply to: LSU2018

Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not known with absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent".[1] A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts.[1]

Exactly. Not known with absolute certainty.