Shocking poll reveals that 37% of Americans believe in creationism

originally posted by: Venkuish1
Around 24% believe in evolution but that it was directed by God. This is contrary to what is written in the Bible.

So what? Is the bible the sole authority on God? I don't think so.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Certainly not the first.

Rather a rehash and retelling of religions that came before.

In the beginning, it was about Sun worship, not son worship.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

provide an example where something came from nothing, I'll wait...

I suppose virtual particles appearing and disappearing in empty space may tick that box due to the uncertainty principle.

In quantum field theory, it's proposed that space is not truly empty but rather filled with constantly fluctuating virtual particles that pop in and out of existence all the time.

Suppose in one hand, sh#t in the other...Which one fills up first?

Matter in, matter out.

Garbage in, garbage out.

Show me the money...

Theories and "proposals" are a dime a f'n dozen, bro..

a reply to: MykeNukem

You asked for an example mike, I gave you one that has been incredibly successful in describing and predicting a wide range of phenomena.

And one that has been tested extensively through experiments conducted in the likes of particle accelerators.

If you don't want to accept it, take it up with the likes of CERN.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

You asked for an example mike, I gave you one that has been incredibly successful in describing and predicting a wide range of phenomena.

And one that has been tested extensively through experiments conducted in the likes of particle accelerators.

If you don't want to accept it, take it up with the likes of CERN.

Take what up with the likes of CERN?

Nothing has happened to take up....lol

a reply to: MykeNukem

Our lack of understanding of the creation of life does not disprove The Theory of Evolution.

What sparked life?
Who knows for definite - certainly not me.

Was it the result of some chemical reaction that over time became gradually more and more complex?
Quite possibly.
Did it arrive aboard some meteor that originated who knows when that crashed on earth literally billions of years ago?
Maybe.

Was it ignited by some superior, all knowing, ultimate being who had/has some bizarre unfathomable purpose and grand design?
Don't know.

But we've got more chance of ultimately determining if either of the first two ever occurred than we have of the last one.

The initial spark of life could be something else we have never even considered yet.

One thing is CERTAIN; mankind as we are today was not miraculously made in our current form by some omnipotent entity in his own image.
We evolved from other life forms over billions and billions of years....and we are still evolving - though polls and threads like this make me seriously think we are actually de-evolving as a species.

a reply to: Freeborn

Are you guys room-mates, or?

Just curious...

TLDR: wall of text required to explain away the LAW of Biogenesis.

Nothing of what you said is "certain", either.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Can you disprove Quantum field theory mike?

Im apt to ponder thats a "No".

QFT has been immensely successful in describing the behavior of elementary particles and their interactions.

Is it theoretically possible for future evidence to challenge or refine certain aspects of quantum field theory?

Yes.

However, at present, quantum field theory remains one of the most well-supported and successful theories in physics.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

Can you disprove Quantum field theory mike?

Im apt to ponder thats a "No".

QFT has been immensely successful in describing the behavior of elementary particles and their interactions.

Is it theoretically possible for future evidence to challenge or refine certain aspects of quantum field theory?

Yes.

However, at present, quantum field theory remains one of the most well-supported and successful theories in physics.

Yada, yada, yada....

No, I don't need to "disprove" anything.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Aye, we all know each other fella.

On an island of 69 million people. LoL

Stay on topic please and that's Americans believe in creationism not who people from the UK room with.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Yada yada yada.

Correct.

But it won't change the fact that quantum field theory remains one of the most well-supported and successful theories in physics and nether will you.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

Yada yada yada.

Correct.

But it won't change the fact that quantum field theory remains one of the most well-supported and successful theories in physics and nether will you.

Not sure what you're trying to say here...

And?

Who GAF bout that?

We have an established scientific LAW of Biogenesis.

I don't remember QFT changing any of that....

a reply to: MykeNukem

TLDR: wall of text required to explain away the LAW of Biogenesis.

Hardly a wall of text.

But I guess ignorance is bliss.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Then let me try and clear the matter up for you.

You said.

provide an example where something came from nothing, I'll wait...

You did not need to wait long.

And were provided with one in the form of "quantum field theory".

Or to be more precise "the uncertainty principle" which suggests space is filled with constantly fluctuating virtual particles that pop in and out of existence all the time.

Hence an example of something coming from nothing.

Have a nice day or disprove the theory.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: MykeNukem

TLDR: wall of text required to explain away the LAW of Biogenesis.

Hardly a wall of text.

But I guess ignorance is bliss.

Yep, trying to explain away what Science has determined is a LAW is truly ignorance.

Entertaining AF, though.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

Then let me try and clear the matter up for you.

You said.

provide an example where something came from nothing, I'll wait...

You did not need to wait long.

And were provided with one in the form of "quantum field theory".

Or to be more precise "the uncertainty principle" which suggests space is filled with constantly fluctuating virtual particles that pop in and out of existence all the time.

Hence an example of something coming from nothing.

Have a nice day or disprove the theory.

Ok.

Now we're on the "suggests" part of the ride..

Ancient Astronaut Theorists suggest...

a reply to: MykeNukem

The Law of Biogenesis goes no way at all at explaining The Origins of Life.
The Law of Biogenesis does in some way support The Theory of Evolution.

Guess some people just take from things what they want to hear and ignore the rest.

Up to you mate, no skin off my nose whatever you think.

a reply to: MykeNukem

"Ancient Astronaut Theorists" don't follow science mike.

In science, theories are not "proven" in the absolute sense.

But rather, they are supported by evidence through observation, experimentation, and rigorous testing.

Quantum field theory has been extensively tested, with decades of research and through various experiments and observations.

Do tell us about your Ancient Astronaut mumbo-jumbo all the same?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Venkuish1
Around 24% believe in evolution but that it was directed by God. This is contrary to what is written in the Bible.

So what? Is the bible the sole authority on God? I don't think so.

Are you challenging the Bible? The Bible is the word of God after all.

There is nothing in the Bible in relation to science and evolution. The Bible preaches creationism in relation to

1) The origins of humans
2) The origins of life (in general)
3) The origin of Earth
4) The origin of the Universe.

All you have to do is accept that the Bible is a religious book devoid of science.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: MykeNukem

"Ancient Astronaut Theorists" don't follow science mike.

In science, theories are not "proven" in the absolute sense.

But rather, they are supported by evidence through observation, experimentation, and rigorous testing.

Quantum field theory has been extensively tested, with decades of research and through various experiments and observations.

Do tell us about your Ancient Astronaut mumbo-jumbo all the same?

Oh, thanks for explaining for me....LOL

get TF up outta here with all that....sound like a pimp ffs...

Something from nothing has never and will never happen. CERN or QFT has proven nothing different.