U.S. Airman set himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy in Washington D.C

a reply to: HopeForTheFuture


Yeah video shows its not the Israelis who shot at the aid trucks.

Some of you, even though you have reality in front of you, cover your eyes to say that reality does not exist because you do not see it. Fortunately, more and more people are clear about this.

Israel doesn't own the jewish people, and zionism doesn't own the jewish people.

I see nothing jewish in you blind nationalism, in your racism and your cruelty, zionism doesn't fight anti-semitism.

Zionism is anti-semitism.

Matt Lieb - Jewish comedian, writer and podcaster.

Some group of Palestinians from somewhere in the world demonstrating against the Palestinian people?

*Cri, cri, criii, the crickets sound...*

originally posted by: ToneD
Those that commit genocide are beyond cray cray, and are psychopaths.
2/3 of Americans agree.
you are becoming the fringe minority that says genocide is 'normal'

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Hmmm, nice fake stats with no link or data; nice false accusation with fake quote for whoever disagrees with you.
Impressive.

originally posted by: PeelingOnions
a reply to: Guyfriday

You've got no idea why people might "toss the term around", even in the light of an ongoing ICJ investigation? C'Mon, Genocide-Joe! Who's going to buy that line if we could also buy more ice-cream instead?

Everything you’ve written in this thread is nonsensical, unserious, and flat out weird.

Don’t you even have any use whatsoever, for reason or adult discussion ?

Seems like there’s a group of you here, who act like this.

US VETERANS BURN THEIR UNIFORMS
AT AARON BUSHNELL’S VIGIL
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Israel appropriates some 2,640 dunams or 650 acres
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Is the Israeli occupation of the Gaza strip,
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Research, research, research
Do not take zionist, fascists, corporations, or lying politicians
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More about Aaron Bushnell

- Was trying to transition out of the US Air Force into software engineering,
and Linux system administration.
- Graduated top of flight and top of class.
Trained as a Client Systems Technician, cyber security,
Gained CompTIA Security+ certification.
- was working toward a bachelor’s degree from
Southern New Hampshire University
- “His actual job involved the processing of intelligence data.
Some of what he was processing, had to do with
the Israeli Gaza conflict.
" One of the things he told me is that coming across his desk …
was the US military was involved in the genocides going on in Palestine.
He told me that we had troops on the ground,
that were there and were killing large
numbers of Palestinians.”

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originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

To laugh at someone burning to death - literally no matter who they were or what they did in life - is a sign of a truly depraved, warped, perverted mind.

false

Personally I laughed harder at the rock star who ran out of good drugs in Provo, Utah so he just started huffing his own # haha when he ran out of his "personal stash" , he overdosed on the real powerful stuff at the neighborhood porty potty. Guess Provo got some good poop, who wud have thunk it? 😂😂😂

a reply to: HopeForTheFuture
This crap again? INTENT. You can't gloss that over and hide that word. Yet you try.
There is no genocide of the so called 'palestinians'.
They went from 700,000 to 6 million.
And only a few thousand have died out of 2.5 million.
WORST GENOCIDE EVER.

originally posted by: HopeForTheFuture
(30.000 muertos, 8.000 desaparecidos, 70.000 heridos)

This crap again?
The numbers are from Hamas. THEY LIE.
And they have no way to accurately count the dead.
They also don't differentiate between a dead child and a dead terrorist.

(water and electricity cuts to the civilian population, even in hospitals with neonates and people who need that energy to stay alive, attacks on civilians while they collect humanitarian aid sent by planes, control of the amount of food, medicine and basic necessities...)

No, there was no attack on civilians while they collected humanitarian aid. The trucks ran them over. Luckily Israel had film footage of the event, they were watching from above. That way they can expose the LIES that Hamas spreads about them and that useful idiots in the west spread as well. And the reason why hospitals are in the fray is because Hamas uses them for their terrorism. You want electricity in hospitals? Tell Hamas to stop using them. And of course the food, medicine and basic necessities are being controlled by Israel. They are winning the war and aren't going to let convoys of trucks go into Gaza without checking them for weapons and ammunition.

More than 750,000 non-Jewish civilians expelled in 1948 and 75 years of expulsion of native Palestinians. How many Israelis have been expelled?

Of course israelis aren't going to be expelled, it's their country.

Prohibition of expelled non-Jewish civilians from returning to their homes, towns and cities. How many Jews are prohibited from going to Israel or Palestine?

Of course Israelis aren't going to be prohibited from going to Israel, it's their country.

Illegal settler settlements in Palestinian areas of the West Bank, Jerusalem and other Palestinian areas. How many Palestinian settlers are there in Israel?

Of course there are no so called 'palestinian' settlers in Israel. It's not their country.

A 90% total occupation of Israel in a land in which in 1947 they did not even exist as a nation. They do not want to live with non-Jews, they want to exterminate them or expel them from their land, two options.

There are plenty of non-Jews living in Israel and they get along just fine with the Jews there.

In 1945, Jews were 11% of all Palestine; currently, there are 7 million Jews and 5.5 million Palestinians.

OF COURSE the number of Jews is going to increase greatly. That's the whole point of an Israel. It's their ancient homeland and it's supposed to be a safe place for Jews to move to. They were severely mistreated in Muslim countries and left them. They were massacred in Europe in WWII and left it. It's their one tiny place to go to be safe.

45% of the homes destroyed in Gaza. What percentage of Israel has Hamas destroyed?

Israel took the war that was started against them to Gaza so that their own people and their own homes wouldn't be destroyed. Why would they allow that to happen to themselves? That's retarded. Israel is WINNING ... that's why Gaza is wiped out.

Do you think the definition of genocide is to kill them all?

More than a few thousand out of 2.5 million would be required. I have posted the information on civilian deaths in wars before. You refuse to acknowledge the information. You probably don't even read it. And the definition of genocide ... by the definition you keep posting ... is INTENT. There is NO INTENT of Israel to genocide the so called 'palestinians' in Gaza. Any dead civilians there are the fault of Hamas and the 'palestinians' who support them. They started the war. They hide behind civilians. And Israel has a right to self defense. Even the ICJ acknowledge that it's not genocide.

It is literally what Israel has been doing for decades, textbook ethnic cleansing, there is the data on both sides.

Nope. No 'ethnic cleansing' going on. Just Israel being established as the Jewish homeland. Wanna' talk ethnic cleansing and genocide ... Hamas and the 'palestinians' openly call for it, genocide the Jews and destroy Israel. But you don't want to talk about the people who are actually calling for it and actually doing it ... you just want to try to claim the Jews are, when in fact they are not. Truly bizarre.

a reply to: ToneD

If he said that, he obviously LIED about US troops in the tunnels.
Israel insisted that they do this alone.
And he was indoctrinated and unbalanced.
No sane physically healthy person commits suicide like that.
Basic psychology. Take a course in it and educate yourself.

a reply to: FlyersFan

a reply to: FlyersFan

I understand that to the Orthodox Zionist extreme right, anyone who defends genocide, colonialism and the violation of human rights with as much zeal as you seems rubbish. It's understandable...
(This garbage is written in the UN, human rights, the Geneva convention and international law)

The difference between us and you is very easy to see.

We: We condemn the crimes committed against the innocent. The death of any innocent Jew in Israel, such as children, women, unarmed civilians or any innocent person, is unacceptable and deserves the greatest possible condemnation. It is not excusable that Jewish settlers illegally expelled Palestinians so that Hamas or any Palestinian would harm their children or any innocent people. Although the number of Palestinian civilian deaths is immensely higher, the death of no innocent is justifiable on either side.

You: If Palestinian children, women, sick and innocent civilians die, it is Hamas's fault.

That's the real difference. We condemn all violence against the innocent, Jews and Palestinians, you only justify the deaths of innocent Palestinians. That is why you are extremists, you are incapable of seeing the injustice on the other side. A child is a child anywhere in the world, even if he is Palestinian. Although people like you will never understand it, fascism and intolerance always needed to justify the violence of the innocent so that their atrocities could be carried out.

Fortunately, history teaches us that even if you make a lot of noise, you are nothing more than an extremist minority that justifies violence against innocents.

In the last ceasefire request at the UN, 153 countries voted in favor, 10 against and 23 abstentions. 82% of the world representation united. You are increasingly alone.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Basic psychology. Take a course in it and educate yourself.

Course for beginners in human rights, empathy, ethics and humanity. It would be a good start for you.

a reply to: FlyersFan

originally posted by: HopeForTheFuture
(30.000 muertos, 8.000 desaparecidos, 70.000 heridos)

This crap again?

What you call crap are people, many of them innocent, although we know that you don't know the meaning of innocent.

HEY LIE.
And they have no way to accurately count the dead.

But Flyersfan knows

The trucks ran them over. Luckily Israel had film footage of the event, they were watching from above.

Any solid proof of that? Ah, of course... that flyersfan has direct information from Mossad, I forgot

They went from 700,000

Say it! were what? 700,000 non-Jewish civilians expelled from their homes without the possibility of returning? Genocide/Ethnic cleansing.

Of course Israelis aren't going to be prohibited from going to Israel, it's their country.

Of course israelis aren't going to be expelled, it's their country.

Totally agree. It is Israel that expels Palestinian civilians from their homes, occupies their legitimate territory in Palestine and does not allow them to return. You are right, no one expels Israel, they are the colonizers.

Of course there are no so called 'palestinian' settlers in Israel. It's not their country.

See how you recognize it? There are no Palestinian settlers, but there are Jews condemned by the international community as illegal occupations. Since 1967, the territory of Israel has not been recognized by law or by the international community. I know that for you yes. Do you have any legitimate recognition of the legality of Israel's illegal occupation? If you have it, let Israel know, it will be useful, they haven't gotten it for 57 years.

OF COURSE the number of Jews is going to increase greatly. That's the whole point of an Israel.

Unfortunately that is true, ethnic cleansing is Israel's number 1 objective as a colonizing country in the 21st century. (It seems like a joke to talk about colonialism in the year 2024, but then you remember Israel and the joke ends).

that's why Gaza is wiped out.

I am glad that at least on one occasion you are honest, it is true, it is annihilation, extermination, genocide.

Even the ICJ acknowledge that it's not genocide.

The ICJ found it plausible that Israel’s acts could amount to genocide and issued six provisional measures, ordering Israel to take all measures within its power to prevent genocidal acts, including preventing and punishing incitement to genocide, ensuring aid and services reach Palestinians under siege in Gaza, and preserving evidence of crimes committed in Gaza.

www.ohchr.org...#:~:text=The%20ICJ%20found%2 0it%20plausible,under%20siege%20in%20Gaza%2C%20and

I don't know if you are a product of propaganda or you are directly propaganda.

No, there was no attack on civilians while they collected humanitarian aid. The trucks ran them over. Luckily Israel had film footage of the event, they were watching from above. That way they can expose the LIES that Hamas spreads about them and that useful idiots in the west spread as well.

Debate from pure hatred, from the greatest baseness, even what Israeli IDF officials recognize, FlyersFan will find a way to attack the truth.

An IDF official said later that after the chaos, at a nearby crossing point between north and south Gaza, Israeli forces first fired warning shots and then opened fire on civilians who rushed toward aid trucks and an IDF tank with forces helping to secure the aid convoy. The official said IDF forces had "fired at those who posed a threat," and stressed that the incident remained under review.

www.cbsnews.com...

Have they promised you a Kibbutz or are you on Israeli pay? If not, I no longer understand why you are capable of continuing to lie, even when the accused recognize it. Your lies crumble like sand castles.

originally posted by: HopeForTheFuture
FlyersFan will find a way to attack the truth.

I post the truth. You post propaganda and personal attacks.
I won't bother going line by line over your drivel. It's not worth my time.

Israel fired at those trying to attack the IDF who were doing security.
They weren't firing at civilians waiting to get food.

CNN Gaza Food Truck Deaths

The aid trucks tried to escape the area, accidentally ramming others and causing further deaths and injuries, ... The majority of the casualties occurred as a result of people being rammed by aid trucks trying to escape Israeli fire ...

As I said, the civilians waiting for food died because of being run over by trucks.
Israel fired at those trying to attack IDF doing security. Big difference.

The actual film footage here
Israel says it shot 10 people who were trying to attack them. The rest (of the 104) were stampeded and/or run over by the trucks.

a reply to: FlyersFan

You post the true? Hahaha

(evidence)

Your version has changed in 5 hours, from:

No, there was no attack on civilians while they collected humanitarian aid. The trucks ran them over. Luckily Israel had film footage of the event, they were watching from above. That way they can expose the LIES that Hamas spreads about them and that useful idiots in the west spread as well.

To:

Israel fired at those trying to attack the IDF who were doing security.
They weren't firing at civilians waiting to get food.

Your false propaganda changed in 5 hours from no to yes. You expose yourself with your extremism, and it is not a personal attack, it is reality, it is evident here.

Of course, don't waste your time reading, unless you find truths beyond the propaganda you consume and distribute. And people like that call others liars. What hypocrisy..

originally posted by: HopeForTheFuture
Your version has changed in 5 hours,

No .. it remains the same. Israel did not fire on civilians getting food. It fired on those people who attacked their armed forces. Those aren't innocent civilians getting food. Israel shot 10. The rest were killed by the stampede and the trucks driving over them. The 'Palestinians' got themselves killed, and a whole bunch of other 'palestinians' killed, in the process. IDIOTS. Darwinism at work.

As for the rest of your post ... it's the usual personal insult crap that's against the rules. Again, I won't bother to respond to it. You are EXTREMELY new here so I suggest you read the site rules before you continue posting.

ATS Terms and Conditions of Use

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16) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive, libelous, defamatory, hateful, intolerant, bigoted and/or racist manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Liars and bots and shills oh my !

What a nice little group of clowns and clones we have here, re-posting the same post every time we say anything.

I think a few ATS luminaries have second and third accounts, depending on the topic. These guys in this thread are sounding just like the most annoying folks from other threads.

Maybe even retreads of people from older Jew-hate threads, who seem to have disappeared.

What a world we live in.

a reply to: FlyersFan

No .. it remains the same. Israel did not fire on civilians getting food. It fired on those people who attacked their armed forces.

Why don't you open a thread for the public service announcements before we set ourselves on fire to get rid of your most pathetic lies in this thread?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: HopeForTheFuture
Your version has changed in 5 hours,

No .. it remains the same. Israel did not fire on civilians getting food. It fired on those people who attacked their armed forces. Those aren't innocent civilians. Israel shot 10. The rest were killed by the stampede and the trucks driving over them. The 'Palestinians' got themselves killed, and a whole bunch of other 'palestinians' killed, in the process. IDIOTS. Darwinism at work.

As for the rest of your post ... it's the usual personal insult crap that's against the rules. Again, I won't bother to respond to it. You are EXTREMELY new here so I suggest you read the site rules before you continue posting.

ATS Terms and Conditions of Use

15a) Offensive Content: You will not Post forum posts, private messages, PODcasts, blog entries, videos, images, and other supported content, links to images or use avatars and/or signatures that are unlawful, harassing, libelous, privacy invading, abusive, threatening, harmful, hateful, vulgar, obscene, and/or disruptive. You will not use text, images, avatars or link to images or domains that contain gore, mutilation, pornography or illegal content. Doing so will result in removal of your Post(s) and immediate termination of your account.

16) Behavior: You will not behave in an abusive, libelous, defamatory, hateful, intolerant, bigoted and/or racist manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.

Same old blueprint for these guys -

1. Brutalize those that they have animalistic hate for

2. Immediately cry cry cry that they are the victims

3. Hopefully get their hated enemy to feel guilty about protecting themselves, and pause their efforts

4. Immediately jump in and brutalize them again

5. Hope they’re stupid enough to fall for this over and over

What a cowardly little strategy. Grown men doing the child’s playground tricks. Totally disgusting disgrace.