The War in Israel must stop

a reply to: TzarChasm

Hamas won't ever surrender. And the so called 'palestinians' are so brainwashed with their desire to destroy Israel and genocide the Jews that they won't ever be stable either. With Iranian money and Turkish support, the so called 'palestinians' will never integrate into a modern mentality and learn to get along in a two state solution. It's no wonder that both Egypt and Jordan washed their hands of them and don't want anything to do with them.

a reply to: network dude


How IDF is doing the operation is top notch , they try to avoid civilian casualties as much possible in a war , really challenging war environment . 30000 armed hamas terrorist hiding in urban tunnel network ....

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a reply to: Kenzo

Hahahaha

Nance is a grifter, a fraud, and a proven stolen valor perpetrator.

I don't care how Israel goes about handling Hamas, as long as it doesn't cost US taxpayers money.

But Malcolm Nance is an intelligence expert the same way Dr Jill is a Doctor.

originally posted by: IndieA
Genocide is not the answer to terrorism.

Good thing Israel isn't engaging in genocide then.
Shame the same can't be said about Hamas and the "Palestinians'.
They openly call for the genocide of the Jews and destruction of Israel.
And they engage in warfare to try to make it happen.

Typical terror fan response calling for a ceasefire now Israel is teaching the Gazan's a lesson. All the arabs have to do is release the hostages, every one of them. Until this happens, from an Israeli perspective, it's game on

a reply to: FlyersFan
Not to mention that a hospital becomes a legitimate target when the war crime of using it for military purposes occurs.

originally posted by: IndieA
Come on man, Bebe has the civilian to terrorist kill ratio down below 1:1. (Sarcasm)

Israel kills more terrorists than civilians, Netanyahu claims

Israel is now killing more Hamas militants than civilians in Gaza, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claimed in an interview with American media on Sunday.

His remarks came as the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) was preparing a ground assault of the overcrowded city of Rafah in southern Gaza. 

"We’ve brought down the civilian-to-terrorist casualties, the ratio down, to below 1-to-1, which is considerably less than in any other theater of similar warfare. And we’re going to do more,” Netanyahu pledged.

Genocide is not the answer to terrorism.

There will be plenty of time for diplomatic gestures after the last Hamas soldier has been neutralized and not a minute sooner.

originally posted by: network dude
By not calling for them to surrender, but rather for Israel to stop, makes it look like folks are on the HAMAS side of all this. If it's truly in the name of peace for the Palestinians, then the international communities, should be calling on HAMAS to end this. Unless it really is about the joos.

That is the part I never understood is in what Hamas has done and how they think is minimalized and everything is focused on Israel to stop. You bring up a good point that all this would stop if Hamas surrendered, but then so many would say they are the good guys and the good guys should never surrender.

So here we are with Israel willing to kill them one by one..weed them out while Hamas operates within the civilian communities and Israel isn't going to stop weed whacking no matter what unless they surrender.

Here's a thing to think about. The vast majority of Palestinians have fled south to Rafah leaving the north virtually empty. Now the question remains where are Hamas "fighters"? Answer:- they are among the Palestinians in Rafah. Now if you were a Palestinian, knowing your being targeted and killed because a small minority, Hamas, keeps attacking Israeli forces from among you (ie. not going away from you to fight like an army on army contact there fore forcing your enemy to target your civilians because you choose to hide among your people) What would you do?

Before you answer that question think on this:- one mans rebel fighter is another mans freedom fighter. But, from the freedom fighters perspective there has to be some small or large chance of winning (Hamas has none) if not you are just causing misery and death to your people. So what do you do? What you do not do is keep on with these terrorist attacks and try to talk a settlement, if not your belligerence will get all your people killed.

Where the problems begin and end, is very simple. Israel wants to take Gaza, because there are vast Natural Gas deposits there. That region is resource rich. That is why this happened and with a “Terror Attack” between “Hamas” which was created by Israel to counter the PLO, they have their built in reason to resettle Gaza, remove the Palestinians and have that entire area, Israeli controlled.

So when people talk about what is really going on over there, they forget the simplest things. Like Who controls what, who owns what, and how badly does one group want it more than the other to where they would kill for it.

The war in Israel, is honestly not our business any more than Ukraine is our business, and yet we are shoveling hundreds of Billions of dollars to both countries to secure their borders while ours is flooded with illegals.

This is not an American Problem, but it certainly smells like one.

a reply to: network dude

a reply to: network dude

Why now tho? Things just got interesting with SA and Egypt threatening war, think about the economy?

Re read my posts if you guys want the answer . All you people arguing and not a lick of sense between any of y’all . 30,000 to 1500 . Someone’s obliterating the other side

originally posted by: Unseendimension
Israel wants to take Gaza, because there are vast Natural Gas deposits there.

Incorrect. The energy was discovered in Gaza in 2000. Israel gave up the Gaza in 2005. If Israel wanted Gaza for Gas, it wouldn't have given it up 20 years ago. And it certainly wouldn't have been sitting back for 20 years doing nothing but instead would have gone after it long before now.

That is why this happened and with a “Terror Attack”

No need to put terror attack in quotes like it didn't happen. It happened. 1200 murdered. Mass rape of both men and women. Sexual mutilation. Families burned alive. 240 hostages taken to torture, rape and murder in Gaza. It was a terrorist attack. Putting it in quotes like it didn't happen is pathetic.

between “Hamas”

No need to put Hamas in quotes like it doesn't exist. It exists. Its purpose is the destruction of Israel. Have you ever read their charter? No? You should. Destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jews. READ HERE

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: network dude

so it's the joos fault that the joos were attacked because or both reasons and history. I expected nothing less from you.

Funnily enough that's the response I was expecting from you , ignorance is bliss so I hear .... enjoy.

so why wouldn't it be prudent to pressure HAMAS to surrender and give back the people they stole?

originally posted by: Lovelyldy
Re read my posts if you guys want the answer . All you people arguing and not a lick of sense between any of y’all . 30,000 to 1500 . Someone’s obliterating the other side

you do grasp the difference between a fact and opinion correct?

Pro tip, facts have verifiable links. Bring them.

a reply to: network dude

That doesn't seem to change much tho, we're still running around demanding capitulations and ethnic cleansings.

War it is then.

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originally posted by: PeelingOnions
a reply to: network dude

That doesn't seem to change much tho, we're still running around demanding capitulations and ethnic cleansings.

War it is then?

If that's what folks want, that's what they will have. But for all those who think their sign coupled with some righteous indignation, enables them to think they can stop this by demanding Israel suck it up and stop being mean to the terrorists that attacked them just isn't getting it done.

But almost no international push for HAMAS to surrender and give back the stolen people. It's almost as if the masses are supporting terror.

eta:
And the economic boom from perpetual war isn't lost on me. I'm just getting older and my views on killing kids seems to have evolved into not being a fan of that action. Likely because it's my kids dealing with it now, and not just me.

a reply to: FlyersFan

No they haven't. “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part"

Yes , they have , both politically and militarily and with the aid of their settler terrorists.

(a) Killing members of the group;

At least 28,000 and counting.

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

Been happening for decades but more recently by cutting power , water and food supplies to over 2 million people.

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

As mentioned above , the implimentation of their Apartheid system , other political measures and settler theft and agression

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.

Work in progress.

originally posted by: crayzeed
Before you answer that question think on this:- one mans rebel fighter is another mans freedom fighter. But, from the freedom fighters perspective there has to be some small or large chance of winning (Hamas has none) if not you are just causing misery and death to your people. So what do you do? What you do not do is keep on with these terrorist attacks and try to talk a settlement, if not your belligerence will get all your people killed.

Hamas cares nothing for Jews and the people they lead. They see them as cannon fodder and political tools for money and power. Hamas leaders sit on 10 billion and a while ago I put forth a post that for about 2 billion they could supply Gaza with all the fresh water and power they need. They are doing affordable ways in Africa to bring localized power to the small isolated towns that would work just fine in Gaza too. They could also set up as many desalination plants as needed as they are right on the ocean.

But what they do is have people dig wells where the water still has salt in it and they tell Israel to only power Gaza 12 hours per day.

We also do not know how many civilians they have killed to push the numbers up. We read about the flat bed truck attacked with 70 women and children trying to get to a safe zone and all were killed by Hamas, so how many more incidences like that have happened and then blamed on the Jews?