Latest On Sunday's Joel Osteen Megachurch Mass Shooter

a reply to: chr0naut

God forbid a police officer take down a bad guy with a gun, with a gun.

We also have the freedom of speech, but there are still laws that say I can't say things in certain places, at certain times, or just things I am not supposed to say.

How profound, a criminal is the type to commit a crime......say it isn't so.

Not sure why we have to go over the same things with you every time this comes around. Criminals are going to get their hands on firearms any way they can, no matter the law. That is kind of what makes them criminals.....


Oh, and by the way, the 2nd amendment does not cover criminal acts with firearms.....just fyi

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
This just in ....... Go figure

Suspect in Joel Osteen church shooting was a transgender, had message written on rifle

The more men become women the more violent women become.

Female mass shooters are an infrequent occurrence.

How rare? More than 98% of mass shootings have been committed by men, according to The Violence Project. This nonpartisan research group tracks U.S. mass shooting data dating back more than a half-century.

www.usatoday.com...

We need to stop encouraging mentally ill individuals from fighting for contrived entitlement.

a reply to: Klassified

Yes, her weapon of choice was, according to reports, an AR15. As I understand that weapon it is capable of firing a whole lot of bullets in a short period of time.

So if that is the case, and this woman was the first to fire, prompting the response of the security team, how is it that there were not more people injured. One would think that any real attempt to cause physical harm with a weapon such as that would be initially much more effective than has been reported in this case.

Could it be that she was just firing into the air and the the only two people shot were the child that was with her and one other man who was shot only in the leg? Could it not be, what with the lack of more information that it was security that cause the injury to the man and the young boy?

a reply to: CarlLaFong

More information on the shooter here.

Looks Hispanic but claims to be non-Hispanic. Born in El Salvador, hmmm.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: Klassified

Yes, her weapon of choice was, according to reports, an AR15. As I understand that weapon it is capable of firing a whole lot of bullets in a short period of time.

So if that is the case, and this woman was the first to fire, prompting the response of the security team, how is it that there were not more people injured. One would think that any real attempt to cause physical harm with a weapon such as that would be initially much more effective than has been reported in this case.

Could it be that she was just firing into the air and the the only two people shot were the child that was with her and one other man who was shot only in the leg? Could it not be, what with the lack of more information that it was security that cause the injury to the man and the young boy?

Sure, it's possible, or he/she was a terrible shot, but my point was that nobody noticed the gun because he/she had on a trenchcoat.

a reply to: PorkChop96

If it were a gun free zone, then those two would have not had weapons on them either. Plus, though they were ''off duty'' law enforcement officers, they WERE on duty as hired security. They were doing their job. There was no heroics involved.

a reply to: Klassified

Yeah, I read that as well, a trenchcoat and a backpack. Such an upscale church one might suspect that people would dress up to attend.

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

Church members, if they have the proper permits and sometimes non are required, can get permission form the head pastor to carry firearms in the church.

Just like air marshals can have firearms on airplanes, cops, whether on or off duty, can carry almost anywhere all the time.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
There was no heroics involved.

I disagree. They saved lives, so it was a heroic act. They could have been like the Uvalde cops and cowered in a corner waiting for swat.

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: chr0naut

Or, the more likely answer, they go in with the expectation of no opposition to their crimes.

Certainly not expecting off duty cops to stand up and blow them away as soon as they open fire.

Yeah, this was what I was going with. Logic, patterns, and (un)common sense go a long ways sometimes

someone actually mentioned out loud the other day about what would happen if someone white identified as black. Would everyone have to pander to them as if they were a dude who now identifies as a puppy? This appears to be that. A dude born in El Salvador identifying as a white female. Honk Honk goes the clown.

Just from a news conference on Fox news. Shooter acted alone and carried more than one weapon. The child shot was a 7 years old boy and hit in the head. Not clear form the news conference who fired that shot. The shooter got past entry security then started shooting in a hallway. Two off duty officers, working for the church, returned fire and took out the shooter.

The criminal and gender history discussed above is verified

They are doing the conference again in Spanish then will be taking questions.

Edit from questions: It was a she, the child was her biological son. It seems she sometimes identified as a he. No motive yet. Married to a Jewish man then divorced . Some evidence of antisemitism. Chemicals found in her bags consistent with bomb making but not harmful alone.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong
I was wondering why we haven't heard much about the recent Joel Osteen's Texas mega-church shooting a day ago.

I think you answered your own question with this information -

"The individual was identified as Genesse Moreno who was previously known as Jeffery Escalante.

The person was trans? Sounds like it from the name.
And no way the left wing press is going to go to town on a trans person.

a reply to: network dude

Press conference with the Police Chief, he just stated that the shooter was the "biological mother " of the child.

So, was it a trans male or trans female?

Was this person male that identified as female? Or vice-versa? Htf is this person the "biological mother"?

They're lying to us!

FOX is carrying the news that 'Free Palestine' was written on the gun used.
Trans person into Hamas .... yeah, the left won't be reporting any of that very much.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
FOX is carrying the news that 'Free Palestine' was written on the gun used.
Trans person into Hamas .... yeah, the left won't be reporting any of that very much.

I think she might have been using a male alies for criminal purposes rather than being trans gender.

You know, if I was a Texas conservative that had the CIA-devolped mind hacking/manchurian candidate tech, this is EXACTLY who I'd patsy up.

This is the exacta bet for uncomfortable things to conservative Christians.

Child Endangerment ✅️
Transgender ✅️
Religious Hatred ✅️
Immigrant ✅️
Extremism ✅️

And because this wasn't a patsy, the right has been lobbed A GIFT. Especially if the endangered kid pulls through.

I can't even think of another thing to add to that list to make it more the encapsulation of the stereotypes on the left.

originally posted by: BingoMcGoof
a reply to: Klassified

how is it that there were not more people injured.

It's being reported that this shooting occurred in between multiple daily sermons/services.
It would've been much more crowded a bit earlier or later.

a reply to: Degradation33

I can't even think of another thing to add to that list to make it more the encapsulation of the whack-jobs on the left.

-Was known to the FBI or "on their radar."
-Was on psychotropic drugs or SSRI's