Tucker Carlson Interviews Vladimir Putin

a reply to: Kenzo

You must know by now! .. do you actually think that any MSM is telling you the truth?. The whole world knows that the MSM are lying scum now.

If you want to discredit anybody within this growing zeitgeist, you are going to have to do much better than that.

Tuckerism = Moscow syndrome

Kenso = disinformation purveyor

originally posted by: Kenzo

Tucker Carlson interview: Fact-checking Putin's 'nonsense' history

Tuckerism = Moscow syndrome

Being as Putin spoke his native language and more than a few Russians would see and hear the interview, especially after a translation of Tuckers words, do you think it's in his own interest to lie about THEIR history?

The real answer is obviously..ALL HUMANS LIE. It's all made up as we go along. Enjoy the movie.

a reply to: nerbot

They have lied decades in Russia , their power machine rely heavy to Putin contolled media who spread lies all day 358 .

The whole dictatorship there rely to mass brainwash , brutal internal security force , being connected to people who have the power .

They literally murder journalist who dare to start speak truth there.

So yes, i would say that the top leadership in Russia definitely benefit from all the lies they itself and media spread.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: TzarChasm

Not very good questions, though?

His job, was to promote himself.

I heard Putins thought processes.

He's a psychopath.

Are you disappointed? Buy a ticket and film your own interview with Putin.

Firstly, I am not a journalist, secondly, I don't have a TV channel and thirdly, are you kidding?

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: nerbot

They have lied decades in Russia , their power machine rely heavy to Putin contolled media who spread lies all day 358 .

The whole dictatorship there rely to mass brainwash , brutal internal security force , being connected to people who have the power .

They literally murder journalist who dare to start speak truth there.

So yes, i would say that the top leadership in Russia definitely benefit from all the lies they itself and media spread.

In other words, Russia operates just like our current administration does in the USA.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: nerbot

They have lied decades in Russia , their power machine rely heavy to Putin contolled media who spread lies all day 358 .

The whole dictatorship there rely to mass brainwash , brutal internal security force , being connected to people who have the power .

They literally murder journalist who dare to start speak truth there.

So yes, i would say that the top leadership in Russia definitely benefit from all the lies they itself and media spread.

In other words, Russia operates just like our current administration does in the USA.

Yeah, actually it’s nothing alike. Just for starters Trump would’ve been assassinated or in prison long ago if they were anything alike.

Also the US media is free and not state owned. They may usually have a left or right wing biased, but that’s because its what sells, not because they’re being forced by the government to report that way.

a reply to: JadedGhost

Right, I'm sure all the "former" CIA people working in the media is just a happy coincidence.

a reply to: JadedGhost

Yeah, actually it’s nothing alike. Just for starters Trump would’ve been assassinated or in prison long ago if they were anything alike.

Perhaps. Or perhaps enough criminal charges and liability to slowly erode his ability to be in contention for office...

Also the US media is free and not state owned. They may usually have a left or right wing biased, but that’s because its what sells, not because they’re being forced by the government to report that way.

Twitter Files?
Facebook Files?

Missouri v Biden?

Any of those ring a bell?

Now if that is "what sells" then why are all of the top MSM corps laying people off en masse?

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: nerbot

They have lied decades in Russia , their power machine rely heavy to Putin contolled media who spread lies all day 358 .

The whole dictatorship there rely to mass brainwash , brutal internal security force , being connected to people who have the power .

They literally murder journalist who dare to start speak truth there.

So yes, i would say that the top leadership in Russia definitely benefit from all the lies they itself and media spread.

In other words, Russia operates just like our current administration does in the USA.

Yeah, actually it’s nothing alike. Just for starters Trump would’ve been assassinated or in prison long ago if they were anything alike.

Also the US media is free and not state owned. They may usually have a left or right wing biased, but that’s because its what sells, not because they’re being forced by the government to report that way.

Numerous journalists have been murdered or killed in the United States while reporting, covering a military conflict, or because of their status as a journalist. At least 39 of these have been directly targeted as a result of their journalistic investigations

The US media is NOT free, that's just willful ignorance at its best. In fact, your response is the most ignorant thing I have seen this year so far.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: JadedGhost

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: nerbot

They have lied decades in Russia , their power machine rely heavy to Putin contolled media who spread lies all day 358 .

The whole dictatorship there rely to mass brainwash , brutal internal security force , being connected to people who have the power .

They literally murder journalist who dare to start speak truth there.

So yes, i would say that the top leadership in Russia definitely benefit from all the lies they itself and media spread.

In other words, Russia operates just like our current administration does in the USA.

Yeah, actually it’s nothing alike. Just for starters Trump would’ve been assassinated or in prison long ago if they were anything alike.

Also the US media is free and not state owned. They may usually have a left or right wing biased, but that’s because its what sells, not because they’re being forced by the government to report that way.

Numerous journalists have been murdered or killed in the United States while reporting, covering a military conflict, or because of their status as a journalist. At least 39 of these have been directly targeted as a result of their journalistic investigations

The US media is NOT free, that's just willful ignorance at its best. In fact, your response is the most ignorant thing I have seen this year so far.

Yeah, I really don’t think your in a position to talk about “willful ignorance” when you literally made the claim that the US government operates the same as the Russian government.

Jounalists Shocked at a Journalist doing Journalism

Imagine that

Flashback

a reply to: MetalThunder

Bin laden worked for the CIA just like Tucker Carlson did . They’re both puppets doing slime ball jobs . Imagine that

a reply to: JinMI

The twitter files incident (or whatever) was obviously shady but it’s completely different to how the Russian government shuts down opposition.

It’d be like if the police came around to your house and asked to search your home without a warrant and you willfully gave them permission… it’s shady, but not illegal. Where as Russia has made it law that they can shut down opposition at will.

a reply to: JadedGhost

The twitter files incident (or whatever) was obviously shady but it’s completely different to how the Russian government shuts down opposition.

So Russia does not dictate to their state media what to say? Or the US does not dictate to their state media (look up how the funding for these social media companies got their funding and subsidies) what to say by having intelligence agents quite literally working at them?

It’d be like if the police came around to your house and asked to search your home without a warrant and you willfully gave them permission… it’s shady, but not illegal. Where as Russia has made it law that they can shut down opposition at will.

From 2022:
FBI Conducted 3.4 Million Warrantless Searches of American's Data

I don't understand how someone can be so ignorant to very basic wisdom.

a reply to: nerbot

Nice interview.

a reply to: JinMI

I wouldn’t personally consider the FBI accessing a persons Facebook data a “warrantless search”… but whatever.

Keep stretching… comrade.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: JinMI

I wouldn’t personally consider the FBI accessing a persons Facebook data a “warrantless search”… but whatever.

Keep stretching… comrade.

Don't reframe my source.

You may disagree with it, but lying about it will not bode well for your credibility.

3.4 million illegal searches without a warrant.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: JinMI

I wouldn’t personally consider the FBI accessing a persons Facebook data a “warrantless search”… but whatever.

Keep stretching… comrade.

You may disagree with it, but lying about it will not bode well for your credibility.

lol, a self confessed troll talking about credibility… that’s ironic.

Anyway, what did you think about the interview. That is what this thread is about after all… your boy Putin came across as pretty cray yeah? Ranting on about some 1000 year old alternative history that no one cares about.

a reply to: JadedGhost

lol, a self confessed troll talking about credibility… that’s ironic.

I am a moron.

I have a fairly specific agenda, yet it's not all encompassing.

I do push to out those who wish to troll.

But never have i stated, confessed or implied that I was a troll.

So now you're just doubling down on your lie.

That's on you.

Anyway, what did you think about the interview. That is what this thread is about after all… your boy Putin came across as pretty cray yeah? Ranting on about some 1000 year old alternative history that no one cares about.

Smart move, pivoting away from the claims you made.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: nerbot

For Russian citizens, Putin did not say anything new. We already know all this. But for hundreds of millions of Westerners, zombified by communist propaganda, Putin said really shocking things. The truth will definitely win.

It's no surprise that Russians have been brainwashed with Russian propaganda. Western media tries to brainwash westerners with western propaganda too.

But, the brainwashing in Russia is much more effective, because Russia has much more control over the information Russians are exposed to, while westerners have free access to information that exposes the lies, and Putin's responses in the interview contained numerous lies and rewriting of history that is factually incorrect. But most Russians just wouldn't realize that, as they don't have a better source of information. Even if Russians did realize Putin was lying, and they tried to criticize Putin's lies, Putin and his minions could have them arrested, or worse. The lack of free speech in Russia is preventing Russians from learning the truth.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: TzarChasm

As you wish

Thanks.

If anybody want an even more in-depth assessment, Denys Davydov, a Ukrainian from Crimea, goes into even more depth on which parts of Putin's interview are not true. He can speak personally about what Putin says happened in Crimea being false, because Davydov was there, and saw events first hand. It would be nice if Russians could see this so they would know what really happened. Davydov also corrects some comments Putin made about Ukraine laws excluding Russians. Davydov says there are no such laws in Ukraine targeted specifically at Russians.

Davydov plays part of the interview, pauses it and then comments on which parts are true and which parts are false. So the 3h52m breakdown is even longer than the interview. He thinks Putin is sick because he thinks Putin seems to really believe his re-written history and other propaganda, though I'm not sure how much of Putin's lies Putin believes himself, it's probably a mix where he knows at least some of what he is saying are lies/propaganda.

Breakdown of Tucker Carlson interview with Putin | Putin is a sick person

There's apparently some kind of time warp going on when Putin asks Tucker Carlson if he can spend 30 seconds to one minute discussing some history, then spends 30 minutes discussing a (re-written) history. Kudos to Tucker Carlson for trying to steer Putin back to a more relevant discussion, but those efforts seem to be in vain as Putin just seems annoyed by the interruptions and just keeps discussing ancient history instead of the more relevant modern issues.