Trump’s Mar-a-Lago, Valued at $18m by NY Judge, Sold for $20m in 1981.

a reply to: strongfp

Believe it or Not , as a Person , I Think Mr. Trump is somewhat Vain , Stubborn , and Narcissistic . However , I Admire his Love for his Country and as a Businessman , he was Well Educated and Insightful in being a Very Good POTUS IMO . He Accomplished a lot in his 4 Years as POTUS that Helped America Attempt to be Great Again . National Pride is Something of a Long Standing Tradition in my Country and the Voting Public Respond to that in a Personal Way . Now , I could not Deny the Man also has a Charisma that seems to Rub Some People the Wrong Way . Well , Nobody is Perfect ......

originally posted by: strongfp

Elon didn't start Tesla, he was taken on to bring the company to where it is now, and then he would get a certain salary of he got the shareholders what they wanted. He couldn't go over what his contract said, so a judge can most certainly get involved. He's the CEO of Tesla, not the private owner of Tesla.

The big question is, would Tesla still be here without Elon?

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
Believe it or Not , as a Person , I Think Mr. Trump is somewhat Vain , Stubborn , and Narcissistic . However , I Admire his Love for his Country and as a Businessman , he was Well Educated and Insightful in being a Very Good POTUS IMO . He Accomplished a lot in his 4 Years as POTUS that Helped America Attempt to be Great Again . National Pride is Something of a Long Standing Tradition in my Country and the Voting Public Respond to that in a Personal Way . Now , I could not Deny the Man also has a Charisma that seems to Rub Some People the Wrong Way . Well , Nobody is Perfect ......

He did a lot with the left freaking out 10 seconds after he won. Has there ever been a president that was attacked day one and every day after for four years straight? You need to add tenacity to the list too. He sleeps like 5 hours and is non-stop the other 19. The House's whole agenda for four years was to stop Trump from doing anything they could and to impeach him as much as they could. With all that he ended up doing a hell of a lot for all. He did more for minorities than the last 5 Presidents combined to include Biden.

I think when he wins in Nov, the blowback will not be anywhere near what he felt in 2016 by beating the first woman president, Hillary. With Biden's failures, I think people will let him do what he wants and we will come out of 2028 in a much better place and align 2028 with another Republican President after all this leftist woke crap the last 4 years. Gen Z are not digging it and they are becoming the most conservative group since the boomers.

originally posted by: RazorV66

Nobody could explain it better.

The Liberals labeled Trump as a tax cheat but they are too dumb to know all the billionaire Liberals use the same system.

They don’t get it and never will get it.

I made over 250k last year and I paid 4% total fed in the end... What people don't get is you pay your taxes to the code, no more and no less, and it doesn't matter if you are a billionaire or make 40k. BTW when was the last time someone making 40k paid over 3% fed...never lol

Edit - Remember when Rachel Maddow gleefully announced she had Trump’s taxes on live TV?
It should have ended her career when it was shown that Trump paid his fair share of taxes with that particular return.
But it didn’t because her viewers didn’t understand any of it.

I did not understand it...she had to know it was 37 million... WTF... it doesn't matter if it was 12% it was still 37 MILLION...lol

The price of houses in my area has increased about 30% just in the last 2 years... but yeah I'm sure Trump's property has defied all normal economic expectations simply because he is Trump. *face palm*

a reply to: Xtrozero

" I think when he wins in Nov, the blowback will not be anywhere near what he felt in 2016 by beating the first woman president, Hillary. With Biden's failures, I think people will let him do what he wants and we will come out of 2028 in a much better place and align 2028 with another Republican President after all this leftist woke crap the last 4 years. Gen Z are not digging it and they are becoming the most conservative group since the boomers."

I Agree .They Will have no Choice After he Becomes a Lame Duck .................LOL

Every property value in America has increased. . . . except Trumps.

lol

Yeah, there's no witch hunt.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: AlexandrosOMegas

Maybe you should try asking an expert on local property values. Like, say, the Palm Beach Assessor.

Well, that is more or less my point. I am not almost convinced, but absolutely certain that using common sense alone, I would have no choice but to appraise the property "above 18 million," which is the only parameter I need to meet. However, if I win beaucoup bucks tonight, I will take you up on that for sure!

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Every property value in America has increased. . . . except Trumps.

lol

Yeah, there's no witch hunt.

Some Palm Beach Assessor said so; so yea.

Did you hear that a Palm Beach Assessor came up with that number.

Here's a throught experiment; what if a Palm Beach Assessor came up with that 18M dollar figure? Would it then be more believable?

In any regard I heard that a Palm Beach Assessor came up with the 18M figure so it must be true.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I wouldn't every single property has gone up.
I can think of a few places across the country that have gone down in value due to unintended or intended actions.
But if there ever was a person that deserves to have his property devalued it would be Trump.
I say that just because I think it would be funny.
Other that than I don't really care about his properties. Has absolutely no impact on my life and really shouldn't have an impact on others.

a reply to: Allaroundya4k

So property in Palm Beach has gone down?

Show another property that has.

Do it.

Prove me wrong.

a reply to: Dandandat3

So we believe the assessor?

Is that it?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Every property value in America has increased. . . . except Trumps.

lol

Yeah, there's no witch hunt.

Non-commercial (ie. residential) property has appreciated considerably.


Commercial property values have trended downward since 2020, haven't they? Lots of factors involved.


Furthermore, isn't busines/commercial real estate normally depreciated over a fixed number of years for income tax purposes?


So is MAL Primarily a residence, or a business?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Dandandat3

So we believe the assessor?

Is that it?

(S)he is from Palm Beach. So why not believe

a reply to: Dandandat3

People are still caught up in this assessor thing? Tax assessment has almost nothing to do with a market assessment for loan collateral. They are only very slightly related in that if home values go up, generally assessed values go up and vice versa, but in no way are they even usually close in value. Back when I was in Oregon, it was pretty common to have pennies on the dollar tax assessed value because they had restrictions on the per year allowable increase.

My current house (not Oregon) is assessed at less than half what we paid for it in 2017...who knows what it's worth now. Even if I went down to the assessor and showed them market reports, they wouldn't do anything because that's not how tax assessment works. If he had been investigated for TAX fraud, this would be the assessment they would look at. For bank collateralized loans, they look at market value and it's slightly modified from even a normal real estate appraisal (that somehow magically always is equal to the selling price). It's a lot more thorough.

The bottom line is the banks did their own valuation and were fine with the end result and got their money on time. Never in history has a civil fraud case been brought by an AG against a non-criminal complaint, no-damages, no injured party bank loan.. because no criminal case could be brought because nobody complained and no crime was committed. What a joke.

Ten years ago, she would have been given the boot for misconduct in any state of the union. My how things have changed. If you honestly believe this is proper conduct, then don't complain even once when the shoe is on the other foot. This is a very very bad misuse of public power irrespective of political sides.

Go talk to an assessor and get a better understanding of how this works and it might stop the confusion. They are unrelated appraisals.

The judge should be charged with undervaluing property when used for charging someone with a crime for overvaluing that same property to apply for loans. The judge is way more guilty than Trump is legally, he is using falsified evidence.

originally posted by: Dandandat3

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Dandandat3

So we believe the assessor?

Is that it?

(S)he is from Palm Beach. So why not believe

I was born in an American city also.

So why not believe me?

a reply to: Mantiss2021

Has property value in the area of the estate gone up or down?

Simple question, but if you desire to equivocate, piss into fans, and waffle, then by all means,

Continue.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Dandandat3

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Dandandat3

So we believe the assessor?

Is that it?

(S)he is from Palm Beach. So why not believe

I was born in an American city also.

So why not believe me?

Because you're not a liberal, duh.

originally posted by: Halfswede
a reply to: Dandandat3

People are still caught up in this assessor thing? Tax assessment has almost nothing to do with a market assessment for loan collateral. They are only very slightly related in that if home values go up, generally assessed values go up and vice versa, but in no way are they even usually close in value. Back when I was in Oregon, it was pretty common to have pennies on the dollar tax assessed value because they had restrictions on the per year allowable increase.

My current house (not Oregon) is assessed at less than half what we paid for it in 2017...who knows what it's worth now. Even if I went down to the assessor and showed them market reports, they wouldn't do anything because that's not how tax assessment works. If he had been investigated for TAX fraud, this would be the assessment they would look at. For bank collateralized loans, they look at market value and it's slightly modified from even a normal real estate appraisal (that somehow magically always is equal to the selling price). It's a lot more thorough.

The bottom line is the banks did their own valuation and were fine with the end result and got their money on time. Never in history has a civil fraud case been brought by an AG against a non-criminal complaint, no-damages, no injured party bank loan.. because no criminal case could be brought because nobody complained and no crime was committed. What a joke.

Ten years ago, she would have been given the boot for misconduct in any state of the union. My how things have changed. If you honestly believe this is proper conduct, then don't complain even once when the shoe is on the other foot. This is a very very bad misuse of public power irrespective of political sides.

Go talk to an assessor and get a better understanding of how this works and it might stop the confusion. They are unrelated appraisals.

The use of real facts in your post hurts the Liberals beyond belief.
I really can’t comprehend how they can even still post in this thread after your post earlier let alone this one.
I am not sure if it’s just stupidity or they are just trolling us.