Another Mar-A-Lago raid in the works...the secret rooms......

Re-runs? Already!? Not very creative if you ask me.

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Yes. It is. He should have everything ready. He is already withholding information. He screwed up. Also, at this point, if the FBI made this mistake what others did they make?

This is not good for his case.

a reply to: matafuchs

Avengers 5: Raid on mar-a-lago

I like revenge of the 6th but it's not in space so the star wars reference doesn't fit.

it's a franchise move, another tired plot device in a string of plot devices.

They know there is nothing to find but it makes good TV I guess.

Press release from Jack Smith: 😀

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Can you explain how if it's found Trump is still in possession of classified documents, after the subpoena, after the search warrant, after his own lawyers hired PIs to search because they didn't trust their client, would be good for Trump's case?

originally posted by: Threadbarer
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Can you explain how if it's found Trump is still in possession of classified documents, after the subpoena, after the search warrant, after his own lawyers hired PIs to search because they didn't trust their client, would be good for Trump's case?

If you don't know then how can you begin to justify a subpoena and search warrant?

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I thought they already knew he had classified material?

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i still believe they didn't find what they were looking for the first time and want a second chance to find.
what astounds me is they actually think trump is stupid enough to keep what ever he has stashed there in the first place.
what ever it is is probably not even here in the U.S. any more or it's some where they would never think to look.

i could be wrong but i think he's got some dirt on somebody and their scard sh@@less.

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Have Any of these Fedeophiles taken a Look in Joe Liden's Underwear Drawer Yet ? I am Sure there are a Sheet Load of Secrets there ..........

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
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i still believe they didn't find what they were looking for the first time and want a second chance to find.
what astounds me is they actually think trump is stupid enough to keep what ever he has stashed there in the first place.
what ever it is is probably not even here in the U.S. any more or it's some where they would never think to look.

i could be wrong but i think he's got some dirt on somebody and their scard sh@@less.

This would be the salacious and certainly fun theory.

I think the one closer to the truth is something innocuous but technically their smoking gun. Or more than likely just a dragnet to keep this in the news cycle and ongoing.

originally posted by: matafuchs
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Yes. It is. He should have everything ready. He is already withholding information. He screwed up. Also, at this point, if the FBI made this mistake what others did they make?

This is not good for his case.

This has no bearing on his case.

When the FBI executed their search warrant in August of 2022, they seized 103 classified documents that Trump had squirreled away even after the government had demanded that he turn over ALL documents marked classified and his lawyer signed a statement falsely claiming that he had. The DOJ listed those documents with a brief, unclassified description of each one in the indictment. It is only a subset of those 103 documents that COULD be used against Trump in the Florida trial without going back and getting a superseding indictment. Of that 103, the DOJ chose to only use 32 of them to make their case. That's because 32 is enough to send him away for a long time and any documents used in the actual trial have to be shared with the defense and Trump himself. In any trial that includes classified information, they use the smallest number of documents possible to make their case just to minimize the possibility of leaks.

This recent announcement that there were one or two places in Mar-a-Lago that the FBI didn't search has no bearing on the documents that have already been entered into evidence. The fact that the FBI may have missed some additional documents doesn't reduce the amount of evidence they already have. The main significance of this announcement is that there MAY be some additional classified documents out there floating around and unaccounted for. Or not. But even if there are, that does nothing to make the case against Trump weaker. Or stronger, for that matter. The FBI may want to search those places now, just to see if there are unsecured classified documents there and, if so, secure them, just for counterintelligence purposes. If do they want to search, they will have to go back and get a new search warrant. But Jack Smith has never said that he would use any documents if there were any there. He doesn't need them and he's not going to alter his case against Trump in any way at this point because it wouldn't change the outcome and it could only delay the trial.

originally posted by: Boomer1947

originally posted by: matafuchs
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Yes. It is. He should have everything ready. He is already withholding information. He screwed up. Also, at this point, if the FBI made this mistake what others did they make?

This is not good for his case.

This has no bearing on his case.

When the FBI executed their search warrant in August of 2022, they seized 103 classified documents that Trump had squirreled away even after the government had demanded that he turn over ALL documents marked classified and his lawyer signed a statement falsely claiming that he had. The DOJ listed those documents with a brief, unclassified description of each one in the indictment. It is only a subset of those 103 documents that COULD be used against Trump in the Florida trial without going back and getting a superseding indictment. Of that 103, the DOJ chose to only use 32 of them to make their case. That's because 32 is enough to send him away for a long time and any documents used in the actual trial have to be shared with the defense and Trump himself. In any trial that includes classified information, they use the smallest number of documents possible to make their case just to minimize the possibility of leaks.

This recent announcement that there were one or two places in Mar-a-Lago that the FBI didn't search has no bearing on the documents that have already been entered into evidence. The fact that the FBI may have missed some additional documents doesn't reduce the amount of evidence they already have. The main significance of this announcement is that there MAY be some additional classified documents out there floating around and unaccounted for. Or not. But even if there are, that does nothing to make the case against Trump weaker. Or stronger, for that matter. The FBI may want to search those places now, just to see if there are unsecured classified documents there and, if so, secure them, just for counterintelligence purposes. If do they want to search, they will have to go back and get a new search warrant. But Jack Smith has never said that he would use any documents if there were any there. He doesn't need them and he's not going to alter his case against Trump in any way at this point because it wouldn't change the outcome and it could only delay the trial.

Is that your final answer?

a reply to: Boomer1947

Thanks for defending the demonstrably corrupt and actively inept FBI for us plebs.

Every time you impart this site with your wisdom........


I got nothin, sorry.

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THEN ARREST HIM UNDER THE PATRIOT ACT!!!!!

But Jack Smith has never said that he would use any documents if there were any there. He doesn't need them and he's not going to alter his case against Trump in any way at this point because it wouldn't change the outcome and it could only delay the trial.

so if he is not using documents that are there...where is the evidence?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Boomer1947


THEN ARREST HIM UNDER THE PATRIOT ACT!!!!!

But Jack Smith has never said that he would use any documents if there were any there. He doesn't need them and he's not going to alter his case against Trump in any way at this point because it wouldn't change the outcome and it could only delay the trial.

so if he is not using documents that are there...where is the evidence?

I hope you are not expecting a serious, factual answer because you ain’t gonna get one.

a reply to: RazorV66

Nope...just hoping I do not get Swatted by some swifties.....

*gasps*

*pants*

Is Orange Bad Man arrested yet?

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Yes. He, HRC, Hunter and Corn-Pop were all rounded up today at the local Subway for demanding double meats and trying to pay by EBT. Times are tough.

originally posted by: matafuchs
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Yes. He, HRC, Hunter and Corn-Pop were all rounded up today at the local Subway for demanding double meats and trying to pay by EBT. Times are tough.

DAMN HIM!

*SHAKES AN AGNRY FIST*

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: DBCowboy


Yes. He, HRC, Hunter and Corn-Pop were all rounded up today at the local Subway for demanding double meats and trying to pay by EBT. Times are tough.

Incidentally, it still bemuses me that DHS and KFC experimented with EBT. The absolute worst restaurant franchise to spend your welfare budget.