Trump J6 Case Mysteriously REMOVED from DC Court Docket

a reply to: matafuchs

Yet it was his campaign staff that rounded up the fake electors, his WH counsel were not involved, he used outside lawyers, his DOJ already told him they could find no evidence, that he lost , and if I'm not mistaken the WH counsel told others and him, his plans were crazy. Sounds real "official office" like. Not.

a reply to: frogs453

What does any of that have to do with a speech on 1/6? He was addressing US citizens as the President of the United States.

a reply to: matafuchs

I thought you were responding to WMC post here about Chutkin and what occurred today. That's the whole election interference case thing.

I apologize if you were not referring to the same case he was.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: matafuchs

I thought you were responding to WMC post here about Chutkin and what occurred today. That's the whole election interference case thing.

which goes nowhere, like the other cases. If he wins, his DOJ makes it all go away. If he doesn't win, the trouble and expense to continue with these cases is pointless, as the whole thing was engineered to screw with the election. Unless you honestly believe that is was imperative to convict Trump of 34 felonies for his lawyers writing checks to his lawyer and calling them "legal expenses". Can you imaging the carnage we could have had, if he wasn't changed and convicted? Cats and dogs living together, that kind of horror. Gives me the damn shivers.

a reply to: network dude

Again. Chutkin's case is around him using his campaign to gather fraudulent electors in various states, who broke election laws to provide fraudulent certificates of ascertainment to congress in the hopes Pence would break his constitutional duties and allow the fraudulent ones. And then after he didn't, Trump incited the crowd further by Tweeting about him as he sat for 90 minutes and just watched TV while the Capitol was overrun and according to all the text messages and testimony we've seen so far, ignored the pleas of his WH counsel, his family, his buddies in congress, even Fox News hosts to call in assistance, or do anything to stop it.

Again his plan used his campaign staff and outside lawyers. None of his WH counsel or admin in this plan. Meshawn Maddock when she thought this was a great thing and didn't remain quiet as she was told to was tweeting all about how his campaign met with them, flew them to DC, would facilitate getting the certificates to DC if they needed, etc. Again, campaign staff. Not WH admin,DOJ, none of that.

You believe that's part of his official duties. Others don't. That is left up to Chutkin to decide per Scotus. Hence the removal of some things and a superseding indictment and grand jury. Now back to her.

a reply to: frogs453

The fact that you're still this propagandized is staggering.

But you're in plentiful company...

a reply to: wAnchorofCarp

The fact that you still think this man is some sort of savior of the country is astounding, but you're in a declining but still plentiful company.


And as usual, nothing to refute he used his campaign staff and outside attorneys to perpetuate the election fraud scheme.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: wAnchorofCarp

The fact that you still think this man is some sort of savior of the country is astounding, but you're in a declining but still plentiful company.


And as usual, nothing to refute he used his campaign staff and outside attorneys to perpetuate the election fraud scheme.

Really?

You are among the low IQ cult that thinks Harris is a savior.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

Again. Chutkin's case is around him using his campaign to gather fraudulent electors in various states, who broke election laws to provide fraudulent certificates of ascertainment to congress in the hopes Pence would break his constitutional duties and allow the fraudulent ones.

"Fake" electors were legal. As every honest person familiar with U.S. law has known and stated, they were correctly enrolled as ALTERNATE electors.

The case against them in Nevada was dismissed: www.npr.org...

The "fake electors" case in Arizona will soon be dismissed too: www.nbcnews.com...

There's no "there" there.

a reply to: RazorV66

🤣🤣 nice try. And again no links to refute that Trump used his Campaign staff and non WH lawyers to execute his election scheme to stay in power.

a reply to: WeMustCare


As has been presented here many times with links to all relevant Michigan election laws, links to various videos, social media and emails from those involved, they broke the election laws.

They were not the duly elected electors. One dude literally was a random church member asked to do this when the GOP member refused because it was too crazy. They did not convene in the state Capitol to sign the official ascertainment certificate. They were provided a copy of one from the Trump campaign staff. They signed it at 1am at a GOP office. Then they videoed themselves trying to enter the state Capitol building after it was closed to outside people earlier that morning with the duly elected electors inside signing the real certificate of ascertainment. And they still forwarded that fake ascertainment to the archivist and Congress.

a reply to: frogs453

L:ink

In the year in which presidential electors are to be elected, each political party in the state shall choose at its fall state convention a number of candidates for electors of president and vice-president of the United States equal to the number of senators and representatives in congress that the state is entitled to elect. The chairperson and the secretary of the state central committee of each political party shall forward a certificate containing the names of the candidates for electors to the secretary of state. No person shall be eligible to be an elector of president and vice-president who shall not have been a citizen of the United States for at least 10 years and a resident and registered elector of the congressional district for an elector representing a congressional district, or of the state, for an elector representing the state at large for at least 1 year prior to the election. No senator or representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector, as provided in section 1 of article 2 of the United States constitution. The electors of president and vice-president shall convene in the senate chamber at the capitol of the state at 2 p.m., eastern standard time, on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December following their election. At any time before receipt of the certificate of the governor or within 48 hours thereafter, an elector may resign by submitting his written and verified resignation to the governor. Failure to so resign signifies consent to serve and to cast his vote for the candidates for president and vice-president appearing on the Michigan ballot of the political party which nominated him. Refusal or failure to vote for the candidates for president and vice-president appearing on the Michigan ballot of the political party which nominated the elector constitutes a resignation from the office of elector, his vote shall not be recorded and the remaining electors shall forthwith fill the vacancy. The ballot used by the elector shall bear the name of the elector. If at the time of convening there is any vacancy caused by death, resignation, refusal or failure to vote, neglect to attend, or ineligibility of any person elected, or for any other cause, the qualified electors of president and vice-president shall proceed to fill such vacancy by ballot, by a plurality of votes. When all the electors appear and the vacancy shall be filled, they shall proceed to perform the duties of such electors, as required by the constitution and laws of the United States. If congress hereafter fixes a different day for such meeting, the electors shall meet and give their votes on the day designated by act of congress

How did they violate the above? An elector can be anyone. It is common to have back up electors to those who were appointed.