Pope Francis Says Marxism, Christianity Have a Common Mission

This is the same pope that encouraged people to take the clot shots too.
He’s the last pope anyway…a reply to: FlyersFan

Communism, on paper, in a classroom setting, is an ideal political ideology if you remove thigs like greed, corruption.

Communism would be great if everyone thought the same, had the same intelligence, had the same work ethic, had the same desires and goals in life.

Communism would be great if everyone wanted a totalitarian government that told them what to do, what to eat, how to think.

a reply to: DBCowboy

... communism would be great if you didn't believe in a God/gods, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, etc

Communists HATE competition like that.

a reply to: FlyersFan

This is the problem with leftists.

THEY think that since THEY all think the same, that everyone else does as well.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
I know what his intent is and always will be regardless of how he words it.

Yeah ... his intent is New World Order COMMUNISM. Anti-borders. Anti-America. Anti-Catholic. Anti-Free-Market. And claims a 'fraternal same mission' with godless communists who really don't care about the poor at all but just pretend to. You still didn't read the links.

I'm not arguing communism, I'm just saying, to me, the pope has never waivered in his core message. "Fraternal' as in brotherhood of nations, that sort of thing?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
I know what his intent is and always will be regardless of how he words it.

Yeah ... his intent is New World Order COMMUNISM. Anti-borders. Anti-America. Anti-Catholic. Anti-Free-Market. And claims a 'fraternal same mission' with godless communists who really don't care about the poor at all but just pretend to. You still didn't read the links.

Catholicism has always been a globalist, zion driven religion. Why is it a shock that it has similar traits to what Marxism advocates for?

a reply to: Abhorsen

I am fond of Maslow as well his approach to understanding our nature seemed so much fuller than the deterministic approach that was more popular when he was working. I kept his Farther Reaches of Human Nature on my on my shelf for a few decades until the dog ears caught up with it. It was surprising to me that his needs hierarchy did not become part of our general lexicon or common wisdom but then I guess something so foundational as that is better kept under wraps so as to not upset the apple cart as it might( heaven forbid) help lead people to a more empathetic and altruistic society.

a reply to: BingoMcGoof

Altruism has become the symposium for the envious and lazy. To truly be altruistic is nothing more than being charitable with ones own means. Nowadays it means forcing others to give.

a reply to: Dalamax

Oh, I don't know. Maybe you might ask someone who refers to an anonymous poster as ''young man''.

a reply to: Moon68

Not to me and I can only assume to Maslow either as you rightly point out, altruism cannot be forced. I'm pretty sure the Good Samaritan would have chaffed had it been mandated by the state.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: FlyersFan

You know who else has one true authority with sovereign dominion over society? Communists.

And just like communism, either you're "in" or you're "out", if you get what I'm saying.

✅ one-party rule

✅ rejection of private property and capitalism (everything belongs to God and therefore the church)

✅ state control of economic activity and mass media (basically social credit score for heathens)

✅ restrictions on freedom of religion

✅ suppression of opposition and dissent

Not every theocracy is communist but there's plenty of overlap between the two.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Neither Jesus nor his Father Jehovah God ever thought that Christianity would change the majority of the world; that is that the majority of people would convert to becoming true Christians (true there are many in name only who are called weeds by Jesus Christ). That is not what Jesus founded Christianity for. In fact Jesus said very few people relatively are on the road to salvation, while the majority of humankind is on the broad road to destruction:

"Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it;  whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it."-Matthew 7:13-14.

Jesus also said that his followers would stand out as being "no part of the world." That is they would remain neutral to the world's politics and its wars. The command of a Christian is to preach and teach the good news of Jesus' incoming world government, the good news of the kingdom. (Matthew 28:19-20; John 15:19.)

The Pope obviously could not teach the truth about this because the RCC is the #1 religion in the world that is part of the world, involving itself in its politics and wars. The Popes on several occasion have hailed the United Nations organization as the only hope for world peace, when Jesus Christ is the "Prince of Peace" and he is the only hope of true lasting peace worldwide when he wars with and does away with all the political governments, the very ones that make up the United Nations.

Nowhere does the Bible indicate in any prophecy that a majority of the world's population will listen to the preaching of the gospel. But it does say that all the world will receive a witness about the good news, and then the end will come.-Matthew 24:14.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I call him the anti Pope. Pure evil.

a reply to: FlyersFan

A bit of a Trumpian interpretation, my friend.

DIALOP is a project of dialogue between Socialists/Marxists and Christians, involving intellectuals, academics, politicians, activists and students from several European Countries.

The Pope is not their leader, but merely one of the leaders of just one of the factions in that list of participants.

DIALOP stimulates - well, dialogue. Their opinion is, by nature of their organisation, based on the good things that all factions recognise as such. Their mission is to keep in - well - dialogue. You know: I tell you my side of things, you tell me yours and hopefully we both will change for the better because of it.

Yes, of course DIALOP will try to make some kind of statement that can satisfy all participants in DIALOP.

In short: DIALOP is not the Pope.

a reply to: FlyersFan

Pope Francis Says Marxism, Christianity Have a Common Mission

By my guess religion and politics can be like oil and water.

They simply don't mix at the best of times.

As to communism well its an ideology that works on paper.

But in practice, people are corruptable, hence it's on to plums and doomed to failure.

Duh, communism is a copy of fudalism which is how the catholic church ran things during the 1260 years they were in control of things during the dark ages. Of course he would approve of communism.

He is the anti-christ (the office of pope has always been)

a reply to: SpeedRacer2023

It's a bit simplistic to say that communism is a direct copy of feudalism.

Whilst both systems involve economic and social structures, they are fundamentally different in their ideologies, organisation structure, and goals.

Feudalism is a system characterised by a hierarchical social structure, where land is owned by a monarch or lords, who then grant portions of it to vassals, in exchange for loyalty and service.

Communism, on the other hand, is a socio-economic system based on the abolition of private property, aiming for a classless society, where the means of production are owned and controlled by the community as a whole.

Kind of apples and oranges really.

originally posted by: VariedcodeSole
Wowwwww...

Have you seen the video of him bowing and kissing the hands of some of the most wealthy and powerful individuals on earth, THEN the regular folks come to take his hand and he quickly snatched it away!

No offense to Christianity or more pointedly, Catholicism, but your "ultimate conduit between God and man" is an absolute blasphemous, sacrilegious POS. I truly mean no offense, I'm simply making an observation that Christianity is PURPOSELY being distorted and compromised much like everything else.

I know Christians and Catholics see what this very "different" pope is doing; twisting scripture to fit the earthly narratives, letting homosexuality have its place and tolerance, and now aligning with oppressive forms of governance. Is too much to ask to stay neutral and do your fkn job and represent God and God's word???

Don't let man shake your faith, only let God if that's what God wants to do. These false prophets would be popping up more frequently towards the "big switch" as most familiar with scripture can attest to, so this isn't surprising.

Does this bother any devoted Catholic practitioners on here? What does this mean for some of you?

Do you have a link this video?

Recently a thread appeared in the History subforum about whether the intent of Christianity was communistic. The issue’s importance goes far beyond history.

Some of the ways the early Christian communities conducted themselves strikes some as communist.

Modern Lithuanian speech is the closest thing to the Proto-Indo-European upon which the languages of Europe, North Africa, and West Asia are based. It is possible at least a few people in the middle East spoke similar languages.

The term magic used to not refer to miraculous powers but to the practice of trying to apply an existing pattern to some undertaking. A person tasked with providing patterns, if they spoke any near relative of proto-Indo-European, might call their job “Magijos Dalinimas” because “dalint” means to distribute.

If they were named for their profession, they might have been called “Mag-dalina.”

It is speculated Mary Magdalene was named for the town of Magdala but it need not be so, or it is possible the town was a center of people involved in “Mag-Dalinimas.”

It is said they had to drive out seven demons from Mary Magdalene.

Perhaps back then they used whatever means necessary to form an unhealthy rapport that might have seemed like possession to those not in the know. It seems possible some of the people in Roman-governed Judea practiced other religions, perhaps Babylonian ones.

In some places, they still try to pressure people into the life of an entertainer so they could use their intelligence to educate the masses.
As for the allegedly communistic practices of early Christian communities, it seems possible that the price of admission was to give your all to help others like Mary Magdalene before they were marginalized into a sinful lifestyle, because they were probably being blacklisted from work.

originally posted by: Moon68
a reply to: BingoMcGoof

Altruism has become the symposium for the envious and lazy. To truly be altruistic is nothing more than being charitable with ones own means. Nowadays it means forcing others to give.

This.

Example of fake, lazy BS: Multi-millionaire celebrities asking poor people to donate to needy people then bragging about it like they did it themselves.

Real altruism: being rich, donating a huge chunk of what you have to the needy, and not telling anyone about it,
because doing the right thing is a basic ethical obligation, not something to be praised.