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He is either a lunatic, the Devil himself, or the Sovereign Lord of All, the Alpha & Omega, the Beginning & the End.
... Now there is definitely a case for each of us knowing instinctively the Golden Rule - it is the voice of our conscience, the connection to the Spirit of God which is present in small measure within every human ever born. ...
As I am talking, please listen to find out the state of your own mind. Do not merely hear the words but use the words to open the door into your own mind. Really what we are doing is the process that opens the door into yourself. We are taking a pilgrimage inwardly; we are taking a journey together into the whole process of the mind. If you are merely listening to words, it will have no value, but if we are journeying together – not listening to me but journeying together – then you will discover for yourself the truth or falseness of what is being said.
J. Krishnamurti
From Public Talk 2, New Delhi, 24 January 1962
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Beyond the Golden-Rule, the teachings of great sages like Jesus, and the societal rules that man makes: there is something deep within us, that somehow tells us what is right, and what is wrong.
Not the rules of conduct, laws, or philosophy, that a person adopts, but way below, before, or beyond the ego and intellect.
Deep down to the sources of intuition, instinct, and things that reverberate within us, even before the intellect can frame it, before the ego can label it: deeper.
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
This realization, opened the door to my understanding that there is a deep centre, where perhaps the constructs of society and Man, have less influence.
We are not talking about the kind of thinking, where random thoughts just pop into our consciousness: but the kind of thinking where we purposely ponder, contemplate, pray, and meditate.
Below that level of contemplation, deeper, are instincts, intuition, and whatever. Things we feel, that do not originate from our social-programming, education, and other brainwashings.
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Thanks BCJ.
I don't know why we are having this experience, but here we are !
That was part of the consideration, for the mention of us being a species with amnesia in the OP.
It also matches the quote you added, so we're vibing on all cylinders now ! LoL !
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
A little bit of chaos causes me much interference, and I have a hard time sitting-in that beautiful place, when my ego just wants to concentrate on the conflict.
Is that similar with you, or do you have a practice, which helps you step-away from the chaos?
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Thanks CatJaveBoe.
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
But we have this sense, that there may be strings and/or buttons.
We somehow sense that this is a limited hangout, like the paraphrased quote from Hoffman in the OP.
So that " forgetting " was included in my thoughts while writing the OP, but I'm not so great at splainin.
I'm not very good at following rules, so I tend to push-up against the things that others might declare as walls, boundaries, laws, limitations, etc ...
Sometimes the walls give, so I learned that there is some element of " holding-back " here also. Perhaps that's a part of the experience, like the darker steps in the classic hero's journey.
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
I once lived in a real dive appartement building, full of hookers are dope-dealers. My bed was next to a paper-thin wall, and the neighbor's bed was on the same wall, so we were inches apart. I could hear him snoring like he was on the couch next to me LoL !!
These things affect our perception, yet we're not sure how.
Perhaps none of us see the world in the same way ?
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Sometimes you turn-on the radio, and the song, or what somebody is discussing, is directly relatable to something you were pondering.
I may not be great at explaining it all, but here, there is a sense somehow, some aspect of our experience in the outside-world, is totally relative to our internal contemplations.
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Have you ever looked at a tree, until it became something else, or it melted into nothingness ?
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Thanks Joseph-of-the-Cave-of-a-Thousand-Bats.
( Any Louisville-Sluggers in there ? )
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
The hero must find the strength within, and the prodigal-son must find the humility within.
They may get some help, but it is their journey to discover within themselves.
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Some of the podcasters I occasionally catch, mention about how our intuition speaks to us very subtly, quietly, and indirectly. The gross hits us in the face, like being slapped with a fish. We all can see the gross.
The subtle is not easy, and sometimes feel that I'm disconnected from the subtle, and missing the cues.
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
Have you looked at trees, and clouds, from both sides now?
Originally posted by KnowItAllKnowNothin
But something's lost: but something's gained…