Winning Legal Advice For Donald J. Trump

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: RazorV66

Well, the Brandenburg case, which says that even advocacy of violence is protected unless the speech is directed to and likely to incite imminent violence.

So, he tells his followers to "fight" more than 20 times, he tells them where to go immediately following his speech, he was aware some in the crowd had weapons as was noted in testimony. The Hess case states that the encouragement can be "implicit" but does not have to be "explicit".

I mean he can argue it's not imminent because it was a 20 min walk to the Capitol or whatever and it's not really his fault his followers thought he was telling them to actually fight.

fight like hell is a figure of speech. If the morons did that they obviously lacked comprehension skills. SO holding trump guilty for their stupidity is wrong.

a reply to: yuppa

Well, I mean I don't argue the stupidity. People argue that an old guy in fatigues convinced these people to break into the Capitol and beat cops with flag poles. It also lends credence to the fact that if they actually believed his phrase was literal, then it makes sense his faithful could be stupid for believing after being told over and over again starting months before the election the only way he would lose is by fraud, that ballots were "dumped in rivers", that even though there has been no concrete massive fraud, they still believe there is because he tells them that, every single day. Makes sense they keep sending him money, even though reports show he's enriched himself and his friends with it. Makes sense they are threatening the judges he rails about every day.

You would think though, if the President was aghast at what was occurring he wouldn't have sat for hours, refused all the pleas from everyone in his orbit, calls from allies who were scared and huddled in congress and he would have called in the help they were seeking. I mean instead of inciting them further with his Pence tweet. He could have told them, this is not what he meant for them to do and it was horrible. He could have made just one phone call for help for the police and congress.

so was the high level Pentagon command infiltrated that day?

[article written March 2, 2021]
[consider sources and writing style]


General: Pentagon hesitated on sending Guard to Capitol riot

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Department leaders placed unusual restrictions on the National Guard for the day of the Capitol riot and delayed sending help for hours despite an urgent plea from police for reinforcement, according to testimony Wednesday that added to the finger-pointing about the government response.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: yuppa

Well, I mean I don't argue the stupidity. People argue that an old guy in fatigues convinced these people to break into the Capitol and beat cops with flag poles. It also lends credence to the fact that if they actually believed his phrase was literal, then it makes sense his faithful could be stupid for believing after being told over and over again starting months before the election the only way he would lose is by fraud, that ballots were "dumped in rivers", that even though there has been no concrete massive fraud, they still believe there is because he tells them that, every single day. Makes sense they keep sending him money, even though reports show he's enriched himself and his friends with it. Makes sense they are threatening the judges he rails about every day.

You would think though, if the President was aghast at what was occurring he wouldn't have sat for hours, refused all the pleas from everyone in his orbit, calls from allies who were scared and huddled in congress and he would have called in the help they were seeking. I mean instead of inciting them further with his Pence tweet. He could have told them, this is not what he meant for them to do and it was horrible. He could have made just one phone call for help for the police and congress.

Um no, nobody needed Trump to tell them there was fraud, Joe Biden made that announcement that there would be massive fraud much earlier. And then the entire world witnessed it all on election night. So stop LYING over and over, you won't be better for it in the end. It will end much worse.

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
so was the high level Pentagon command infiltrated that day?

[article written March 2, 2021]
[consider sources and writing style]


General: Pentagon hesitated on sending Guard to Capitol riot

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defense Department leaders placed unusual restrictions on the National Guard for the day of the Capitol riot and delayed sending help for hours despite an urgent plea from police for reinforcement, according to testimony Wednesday that added to the finger-pointing about the government response.

It was a concerted effort against Trump orchestrated by the Dems.
Anyone that believes otherwise is totally delusional, we see it everyday here.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


And where are your court decisions and investigations that show there was this massive fraud? I mean I know Sidney,Rudy,Pillow Guy and Trump all insist they will show it. Trump’s own 2 secretive investigations showed nothing.

Cute you're calling me a liar, yet Rudy admitted he lied. Trump lied about ballots in rivers and Sidney admitted she was did not vet affadavits and claims before she submitted them in court.

The lying seems to be coming from the ones telling you there is fraud.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: yuppa

Well, I mean I don't argue the stupidity. People argue that an old guy in fatigues convinced these people to break into the Capitol and beat cops with flag poles. It also lends credence to the fact that if they actually believed his phrase was literal, then it makes sense his faithful could be stupid for believing after being told over and over again starting months before the election the only way he would lose is by fraud, that ballots were "dumped in rivers", that even though there has been no concrete massive fraud, they still believe there is because he tells them that, every single day. Makes sense they keep sending him money, even though reports show he's enriched himself and his friends with it. Makes sense they are threatening the judges he rails about every day.

You would think though, if the President was aghast at what was occurring he wouldn't have sat for hours, refused all the pleas from everyone in his orbit, calls from allies who were scared and huddled in congress and he would have called in the help they were seeking. I mean instead of inciting them further with his Pence tweet. He could have told them, this is not what he meant for them to do and it was horrible. He could have made just one phone call for help for the police and congress.

Except turns out milley intentionally hampered any military response for hours. knowing that it would make it look like trump didnt try to stop anything.