Being Banned From A States Ballot

a reply to: IgorMartinez

President Trump on 1/6 - “Everyone here will soon be marching to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”

originally posted by: IgorMartinez

The crowd contested the election result, it got violent, people were killed, and Trump was who told them to fight like hell.

If they had a good reason to contest the election, then maybe you can call it a protest.

Can you give me a good reason?

What "people" plural were killed? One unarmed woman was killed by the poor judgment of an officer, so you say people were killed, so who did these violent people kill? You also need to finish Trump's statement and not cherry-pick to take it out of context.

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

Also, the term "fight like hell" is a very common statement used in politics sports, etc.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: network dude

Insurrection, treason, and seditious conspiracy all fall under the same chapter on the US Code. Neither Section 3 nor the Treason Clause stipulate the someone guilty of treason is ineligible to hold office.

Do you believe that someone guilty of treason should be eligible to run for President?

Then you must not understand the question.

How many people do you think Biden committed treason by selling access to Ukraine, Russia and China?

Therefore he should also be removed from state ballots, right?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: IgorMartinez

President Trump on 1/6 - “Everyone here will soon be marching to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard”

The Leftists will simply say that's all hearsay and is meaningless. 😃

a reply to: Xtrozero

Isn't it funny that the people that were in contact with Trump's team did have a plan to seize the Capitol and then begin taking over other government buildings once they had secured their location there?

originally posted by: matafuchs

This is from 2016. This is an insurrection. They are trying to stop the process......no one wants to talk about that.

Holy crap! Biden could speak somewhat coherently back in 2016. Boy, how far he has fallen since then...

a reply to: JinMI

If they think that then they should file complaints with their state election boards and let the process play out.

Just like we're seeing in Colorado, Maine, and other states.

originally posted by: Threadbarer

Isn't it funny that the people that were in contact with Trump's team did have a plan to seize the Capitol and then begin taking over other government buildings once they had secured their location there?

To what intent? You and others act like any of that could somehow change anything, it can't... Are you suggesting they were going to kill off Congress?


Wait!!! I found it!!! The plan...

a reply to: Xtrozero

I can’t imagine the Supreme Court will scoff at 1 person’s death like you, nor characterize 1/6/21 as a peaceful protest.

Whatever words Trump used, fight like hell, peacefully protest, thanks for making your voices heard, time to go home now, those all point to him inciting the event on 1/6/21.

If they had a good reason to contest the election result, then maybe you can call it a protest. But since no court has found any evidence convincing enough to protest the election result, like I said, I don’t foresee the Supreme Court setting such a precedent. But let’s see. Should be interesting.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI

If they think that then they should file complaints with their state election boards and let the process play out.

Just like we're seeing in Colorado, Maine, and other states.

So then yes, you believe that the allegations are enough.

That words alone can remove liberty sans due process.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI

If they think that then they should file complaints with their state election boards and let the process play out.

Just like we're seeing in Colorado, Maine, and other states.

A race to the bottom.

a reply to: JinMI

Section 3 of the 14th amendment doesn’t require a court to convict somebody of insurrection to apply. Said somebody just has to have engaged in insurrection. This is why I’m saying I think the Supreme Court will have to either qualify 1/6/21 as a legitimate protest, which no court has, or agree with the states’ ruling.

a reply to: JinMI

Yes or no, are all cases going through the court system?

a reply to: Dandandat3

It seems to me that being more demanding of our candidates would lead to a better breed of politician.

originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: JinMI

Yes or no, are all cases going through the court system?

What does the court system matter?

Maine's SoS did not go through the court....

a reply to: IgorMartinez

What insurrection?

Maine Secretary of State Gleefully Explains Why She Unilaterally Barred Trump From 2024 Ballot….and It’s Worse Than You Think (VIDEO)

Democrat Shenna Bellows explains that she personally decided that Trump was guilty of engaging in an insurrection.

After disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of Republican voters in Maine, Bellows boasts about how proud she is of Maine's voter participation rate. "I smile because we were number one for voter turnout per capita in 2022.

Abnormally high voter turnout rates could be an indication of fraud, in which case one might look at the rate of inactive voters that have recently become active, but an honest canvassing would be a more accurate check. The concern being that inactive voters can be used for fraudulent votes. The cheat could be as simple as identifying inactive voters, getting absentee ballots in their names, then voting those ballots by depositing them in drop boxes or mail boxes. This is also why it's important to have clean and properly maintained voter rolls.

If you decide not to vote in any election, you may still want to check your voter and vote status on your county's election office website to make sure someone else has not voted for you.

originally posted by: IgorMartinez
a reply to: JinMI

Section 3 of the 14th amendment doesn’t require a court to convict somebody of insurrection to apply. Said somebody just has to have engaged in insurrection. This is why I’m saying I think the Supreme Court will have to either qualify 1/6/21 as a legitimate protest, which no court has, or agree with the states’ ruling.

The 14th amendment is also NOT some loophole democrats can use like the fascists they have become to "declare" an insurrection by proxy, which is what you think or want to believe because they just must stop Trump. Have you heard the lunatics in the news lately? LOL'z. You don't want to be one of them or support this, because there was this guy in Germany once who did these exact things and a lot of innocent people died because of it..

That is where this leads.

a reply to: JinMI

Maine is stayed until it goes through the courts.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Lets say section 3 of the 14th are "self executing."

(I'd love to see an analog of other self executing removals of liberties BTW if anyone is up to the task)

Then why does section 5 exist?

Section 5.
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.