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Saving our democracy from Trump, by destroying our democracy because of Trump

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posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 09:56 AM
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originally posted by: loam
What will take on immediate and lasting damage will be the US Supreme Court.

This decision in Colorado exploits (whether purposely or not) the current weakness of SCOTUS as an institution. Whatever comes next will not be good.

If they uphold. Game over. If they reverse. Game over.

We are nearing the endgame. It's probably not hyperbole to say it's time to plan accordingly.


I see it differently as in if they say no then we are back to normal, if they uphold it then it opens up Pandoea's box for the future. We need to understand that Trump hasn't even been charged and they did this, so what would this mean in the future as States just randomly remove the front-runner from their ballots? That would be a true banana republic and the state of a civil war.


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posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

I don't know if trump is the right person to put us back on track. I also don't think we are building a fair 2024 election process. I am willing to bet there are some democrats or third party people out their that could do better than Biden and I feel the peoples choice to decided has been taken from them as well. Personally I like Tim Scott but he needs some debate practice before the next cycle so his message can get out there. Gov Desantis, well I do primary live in Fl and I do like what he has done for us, but nobody is perfect.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTophat


We deserve a better conservative candidate than Trump. YOU deserve better than Trump. Biden too! We need someone who were the best parts of Reagan and Kennedy. Strength and Optimism that doesn't take themselves too seriously but takes the world seriously.


Why? Who would be better right now? You all are looking for some unicorn that just isn't there. I see it in businesses all the time where there are solid workers but they hire from outside always looking for that special person which I call a unicorn as it just does not exist. I have seen people hired who are just downright God-awful while having perfectly good "known" candidates already working for them.

The thing with Trump is we already know what he will bring, there is no guessing, so you just keep wishing for your unicorn, and the next person that is 10 times worse than anything Trump is you will do it again in looking for the next unicorn.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis


In all honesty I think it's going to be a very long time before we can all talk about these things together again - that well has been poisoned. Reality is whatever you want it to be now








posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: RazorV66
You’ll never get a coherent answer to that question, I’ve tried many times.
Their stunted feelings and emotions are in charge of whatever intellect they have left.


Same with "the end of democracy if Trump wins". Liberals should just take the L and move on. There will be no "If Trump wins elections will stop" BS. Take the freak'in knee and try to do better in 2028.

Trump's 4 years were analyzed to be some of the most moderate events in recent times. Just about everything he did Liberals such as Obama/Clinton agreed and tried the same things during their Presidencies.

So give me a break people...lol



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 01:29 PM
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a reply to: some_stupid_name




...but nobody is perfect.


Nope - nobody is

Good answer - I wonder if any of our very best people will ever feel like getting involved again. It's kinda a lot right now



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Not someone that has access to the launch codes, or the ability to put her enemies in jail

Also not someone who showed up to an insurrection attempt in a group - with a noose

But, to be fair - she is not my favorite person. And I was not happy with that stunt myself



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Shifting goalposts again.

My reply was about your comment on poisoning wells.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Shifting goalposts again.

My reply was about your comment on poisoning wells.


How is that shifting goalposts?



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

Shifting goalposts again.

My reply was about your comment on poisoning wells.


How is that shifting goalposts?


Because your reply made no sense pertaining to the quote YOU made that I was replying to.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Dandandat3
I guess I just don’t understand why so many "anti trump" proponents would spend so much time on a pro-Trump website.

Maybe they are just easily influenced.


They're still here because this is definitely an anti-Biden site.

And they're butthurt.


That's a big part of why I'm hanging around.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I admitted I didn't like that stunt

You use that one example - do you have others? Do you mean to say that there hasn't been ugly crap flying from both sides? Because I think it's you that didn't understand what I was saying in the post you replied to. It's obvious that I meant the well has been poisoned by everyone. We're past the point where we can discuss anything

You're proving that right now



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

They did a play with a mock Trump assassination
Jonny Depp comments about actors killing presidents
Madonna comments about blowing up the White House
You were called sexist for not supporting Hillary, racist for not supporting Obama

The list is endless, but what do I know, I'm a deplorable.




posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




They did a play with a mock Trump assassination
Jonny Depp comments about actors killing presidents
Madonna comments about blowing up the White House
You were called sexist for not supporting Hillary, racist for not supporting Obama

The list is endless, but what do I know, I'm a deplorable.



You should see my list

And I'm sorry you're deplorable. Tough break

:-)

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posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

You leftists need to stop being so divisive and compromise.




posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

You leftists need to stop being so divisive and compromise.



I'm old enough to remember when Republicans slammed the door on compromise.

And I was Republican at the time.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

You leftists need to stop being so divisive and compromise.



I'm old enough to remember when Republicans slammed the door on compromise.

And I was Republican at the time.


I've never been a republican, funny enough.

Always an Independent.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

You leftists need to stop being so divisive and compromise.



I'm old enough to remember when Republicans slammed the door on compromise.

And I was Republican at the time.


I've never been a republican, funny enough.

Always an Independent.


Here's a laugh for you.

I started out as a Flag waving, Chrisitan, war monger



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: Annee

My dad is a vet, I served.

We all hated war.



posted on Dec, 22 2023 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Annee

My dad is a vet, I served.

We all hated war.


Well, I grew up and wised up.

But it helps me understand the mindset of the current Right.

I planned on joining the Navy -- but a health issue prevented it.



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