Saving our democracy from Trump, by destroying our democracy because of Trump

This is just opinion, so no news articles to back up my statements. We have heard for almost 7 years now how Trump will destroy our democracy (never mind that it's a constitutional republic). The DERP's who make that claim really can't articulate what Trump would do, or has done to destroy our democracy. He ran for office, won, and spent 4 years as President of the US. Currently, the US is still a nation, albeit weaker and severely compromised by weak leadership with the current administration. So for all Trump's efforts, he was unable to destroy our democracy.

But currently, rather than allow "DEMOCRACY" to choose our next leader, the left and the never Trump right, have championed their causes to eliminate Trump from the State ballot. In the past, things were said, like "let the people choose as the system is intended for by our founding fathers", but today, to hell with those old white folk. They never saw TRUMP coming.

So here is the challenge. Describe how Trump will in fact destroy democracy, other than exposing the fraud, going to war against the deep state, and exposing the MSM as mouthpieces for the leftist agenda. Tell us what actions he will take as leader of the free world again in 2024, so we all know what to look out for. Attempting to make peace a priority in the ME, giving North Korea a few moments of attention so Kimmy doesn't need to lash out for attention by launching ICBMs, Keeping us out of new wars, trying to end the Russian invasion of Ukraine? I'm sure those actions are scary. Indeed if you are heavily invested in the MIC.

It's my firm belief that Trump's power rests in his detractors. His fanbase likes him, and is fiercely loyal, but with every unconstitutional action taken, more and more regular Americans wonder why the DERP's fear him so much. Knowing that most corruption revolves around money, I would suspect it has something to do with he cartels funding many in congress and the senate by massive transfer of wealth in shady ways. If Trump was to gain operational control of the border, the trafficking days are over. that alone could be the push against him. Rapists and child molesters understand the rivers of gravy the current supply chain offers. Kids are being sent here alone. To think of the horrors they are put through, only to be sold into sex slavery, in pursuit of the American dream is beyond disgusting. Again, in the long ago time, there would have been groups that had the sole purpose of looking out for these children. Now we have groups who's sole purpose is to exploit these children.

I don't have the resources to combat this evil, but someone might. And I sure hope they shows up soon. In the mean time, having a president who at the very least, understands that our borders are important and exist for a reason would be a welcome change.

What will take on immediate and lasting damage will be the US Supreme Court.

This decision in Colorado exploits (whether purposely or not) the current weakness of SCOTUS as an institution. Whatever comes next will not be good.

If they uphold. Game over. If they reverse. Game over.

We are nearing the endgame. It's probably not hyperbole to say it's time to plan accordingly.

a reply to: network dude

See, that's where you're wrong.

This isn't, like, just your opinion man.

It's facts.

originally posted by: loam
What will take on immediate and lasting damage will be the US Supreme Court.

This decision in Colorado exploits (whether purposely or not) the weakness of this institution. Whatever comes will not be good.

If they uphold. Game over. If they reverse. Game over.

We are nearing the endgame. It's probably not hyperbole to say it's time to plan accordingly.

while I hold out hope that Trump nor his detractors have the power to take the entire system down, I do understand and comply with your words. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst. I've done all I can, I just hope it's enough.

Liberal-speak...The Colorado Supreme Court has disenfranchised millions of state citizens, thereby precipitating a constitutional crisis of epic proportion!
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Y'know alot of the cartels power comes from drug money.

Americans like their drugs.

Maybe it has something to do with the freedom of bodily autonomy, I don't know...

BUT! I do know that Trump wants to call for the death penalty of drug dealers instead of cutting the cartels off at the knees by removing the controlled scheduled substances act.

The taxes on federally ok'd cannabis products alone would pay significantly for border control AND limit the power of the cartels.

We deserve a better conservative candidate than Trump. YOU deserve better than Trump. Biden too! We need someone who were the best parts of Reagan and Kennedy. Strength and Optimism that doesn't take themselves too seriously but takes the world seriously.

This ain't our guy.
The man is a Nixon minus the stepping aside part.

The fact that the Democrats are distorting the country over Donald Trump is truly mind blowing when you really think about it .... Donald Trump?

History is going to look back on us and call us fools; "these people are fools; trading liberty and democracy for political expedience"


And just like all the Liberals crying about being called anti-semitic the last few weeks; they won't realize the mistakes they are making until they become victims of the political expediences and by then it will be to late.

a reply to: network dude

The scariest part of this is the low info, low IQ Liberals/Leftists/Dem supporters that are cheering this on.
They know that Biden or any Democrat they shove out there, cannot beat Trump in a fair election so they will continue to invent illegal ways to keep him from running or having the ability to run for president.

The 4 members of the Colorado SC that were in favor of this were all put in place by Democrats so without a doubt they are all in on the con artist scam.

a reply to: TinfoilTophat

Who we 'deserve' is always a matter of opinion. But that's completely meaningless when the foundation of our Republic is under assault.

If our way of governance fails, we'll get exactly what we 'deserve', whether we like it or not

At least one of the Colorado SC justices understands what the law means.

Justices Carlos Samour, Maria Berkenkotter and Chief Justice Brian D. Boatright all dissented, but Samour was particularly critical of the 4-3 ruling. Samour and Boatright were each appointed by Democratic former Gov. John Hickenlooper, while Berkenkotter was appointed by current Gov. Jared Polis, also a Democrat.

"The decision to bar former President Donald J. Trump — by all accounts the current leading Republican presidential candidate (and reportedly the current leading overall presidential candidate) — from Colorado's presidential primary ballot flies in the face of the due process doctrine," Samour wrote.

"Even if we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past — dare I say, engaged in insurrection — there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office," he wrote.

I can’t believe that the few self-proclaimed “Lawyers” here on ATS are not criticizing this ruling.
They are happily jumping up and down about it.

www.foxnews.com...

originally posted by: RazorV66
They are happily jumping up and down about it.

Since that glee appears at scale, we can either assume a hot escalation between both sides or a complete collapse of our way of governance.

Dark road ahead.

a reply to: TinfoilTophat

We deserve a better conservative candidate than Trump. YOU deserve better than Trump.

Why? What is your problem with Trump? Spell it out. List it. Why can no one create a TRUTHFUL list of why Orange Man bad.

In the recent, the best anyone has is they are afraid Trump will do to them what Biden and the dems have done to him, and they probably do fear that.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: TinfoilTophat

We deserve a better conservative candidate than Trump. YOU deserve better than Trump.

Why? What is your problem with Trump? Spell it out. List it. Why can no one create a TRUTHFUL list of why Orange Man bad.

In the recent, the best anyone has is they are afraid Trump will do to them what Biden and the dems have done to him. At least they're being truthful. And mean tweets don't count.

You’ll never get a coherent answer to that question, I’ve tried many times.
Their stunted feelings and emotions are in charge of whatever intellect they have left.

a reply to: loam

What will take on immediate and lasting damage will be the US Supreme Court.

This decision in Colorado exploits (whether purposely or not) the current weakness of SCOTUS as an institution. Whatever comes next will not be good.

What inevitably comes next is the realization that SCOTUS has no enforcement arm or mechanism. Which stems from from not only a breakdown in trust in our institutions but the habitual removal of accountability.

Our Republic is a threat to their democracy.....

I don’t like him (not for the normal hyperbolic reasons, but I disagreed with him on economic policy).

But he is going to win because of their efforts to stop him. Every time they try and nail him legally, he gets more support. Them blocking him in states that are going to vote left anyways is only going to boost his support.

My guess is he wouldn’t have as much popularity this time around if they just let it run its course organically. This is the type of strategy he excels at, feeding on energy.

Aside from why I think this is a bad strategic play for anti trumpers, it’s a bad precedent being set. This is ironically eroding democracy more than he has.

What anti trumpers should have done is offer viable alternatives. Joe Biden is not a viable alternative. Anyone in the RNC primary is not a viable alternative. And as much as I dislike Trump, it’s not hard to identify that. That’s one of the roots for my disdain of the parties, they’ll construct some sort of fairy tale patsy before they take any semblance of accountability.

As it stands, I probably lean towards Kennedy going forward. I’m not particularly thrilled with that as he’s not my flavor of “moderate”. And the party I most closely identify with (libertarians) haven’t been able to muster up someone to be taken seriously in some time.

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: TinfoilTophat

We deserve a better conservative candidate than Trump. YOU deserve better than Trump.

Why? What is your problem with Trump? Spell it out. List it. Why can no one create a TRUTHFUL list of why Orange Man bad.

In the recent, the best anyone has is they are afraid Trump will do to them what Biden and the dems have done to him. At least they're being truthful. And mean tweets don't count.

You’ll never get a coherent answer to that question, I’ve tried many times.
Their stunted feelings and emotions are in charge of whatever intellect they have left.

You're probably right. It's bad when I can list more specifics I disagree with Trump about than they can.

a reply to: Klassified

In the recent, the best anyone has is they are afraid Trump will do to them what Biden and the dems have done to him, and they probably do fear that.

Bingo.


They are scared Trump will do what they have been doing. And that is the cold hard truth.

a reply to: Klassified

He's simply the vessel leftists use to place all their hate against their real enemies-- you.

They want him destroyed, because they think anyone who doesn't uphold their world view also needs to be destroyed.

It's really as simple as that.

originally posted by: network dude
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The DERP's who make that claim really can't articulate what Trump would do, or has done to destroy our democracy. He ran for office, won, and spent 4 years as President of the US.
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Yes, and if he had stopped right there, we wouldn't have a problem.

But he ran again and lost--using the exact same electoral process by which he had won 4 years earlier--and decided to lie, cheat, and steal try to stay in office anyway. That's the point where he attempted to do an end run around the democratic process by which we run our Republic. That's what he actually did. It's not hypothetical. It's why he's got multiple felony lawsuits going right now.

Furthermore, you'd have to be an idiot to be surprised by that behavior. The POTUS takes an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, which includes "taking care that the laws are faithfully executed". That's literally all the POTUS is required to promise to do. Play by the rules. Color within the lines. Donald Trump has never colored within the lines his entire life. He's not capable of it. If we're being honest, that's exactly why a lot of Trump supporters like him.

Looking to the future, is there really any doubt that he would try to complete his plan if he got another 4 years? He's setting in place all the same game plans and players.

They're all bad. If we could get a honorable president into office an assassination would probably follow. That is how things have been working.