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Former Italian Health Minister Roberto Speranza is under investigation for homicide after emails reveal that from the very start of the vaccinations, he knew the shots were killing people and gave orders to local health authorities to conceal deaths and serious side effects in order to reassure Italian citizens of their safety and to not jeopardize the vaccination campaign.
These staggering accusations were been reported on by both German and Italian news networks but completely ignored by the mainstream press in the U.S.
The publication of these internal emails revealed that they had been aware of the dangers of the COVID vaccination from the start. The accusation is that the responsible minister and the head of the drug authority knowingly and deliberately exposed the unsuspecting Italian population to this risk.
Yes, they encouraged Italians to get vaccinated. Vaccination was even made mandatory for certain professional groups. Consequently, many side effects, including fatal ones, came to light. The investigations are for murder, serious bodily harm, and more because Speranza and Magrini evidently gave instructions to the local health authorities to conceal the deaths and serious side effects that occurred immediately after the vaccinations began in order not to jeopardize the vaccination campaign — and to reassure the citizens about their safety.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
Nope
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
Nope
Honestly, I think that when the general public realize that the doom-porn hasn't happened, and the great reset hasn't happened, and yet their relatives and loved ones died of something that was in the early stages preventable, then people will begin to be angry at that.
And people whose only defense will be that they had a right to free speech, will also come to realize that they have no defense against free speech.
And likely, many will get 'Alex Jones'ed.
Italy on Friday suspended the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine for people under 60 years old, health officials announced at a weekly press conference on the Covid-19 pandemic.
The move came after an 18-year-old woman died of a blood clot Thursday after receiving an initial dose of AstraZeneca on May 25, Xinhua reported.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
I suppose that the court case will come down to a comparison between the numbers saved by the immunizations, and the numbers harmed by the immunizations.
Already reasonably sound estimates are out that give us a figure for how many lives were saved by the immunizations.
All they have to do is prove that there were more deaths caused by the immunizations and they automatically win the case.
COVID vaccines saved 20 million lives in first year, study says
Like what?
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
I suppose that the court case will come down to a comparison between the numbers saved by the immunizations, and the numbers harmed by the immunizations.
Already reasonably sound estimates are out that give us a figure for how many lives were saved by the immunizations.
All they have to do is prove that there were more deaths caused by the immunizations and they automatically win the case.
COVID vaccines saved 20 million lives in first year, study says
There is no evidence as to the number saved by immunization. That's an unsubstantiated claim with no merits other than propaganda and lies by those who promoted the vaccines including the pharmaceutical companies. But there is plenty of evidence people were harmed and died due to these products and that's why a number of vaccines have been withdrawn completely from the market and others have been made available only for the over 60s or 70s.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
I suppose that the court case will come down to a comparison between the numbers saved by the immunizations, and the numbers harmed by the immunizations.
Already reasonably sound estimates are out that give us a figure for how many lives were saved by the immunizations.
All they have to do is prove that there were more deaths caused by the immunizations and they automatically win the case.
COVID vaccines saved 20 million lives in first year, study says
There is no evidence as to the number saved by immunization. That's an unsubstantiated claim with no merits other than propaganda and lies by those who promoted the vaccines including the pharmaceutical companies. But there is plenty of evidence people were harmed and died due to these products and that's why a number of vaccines have been withdrawn completely from the market and others have been made available only for the over 60s or 70s.
Sure, then publish a link to the credible alternate statistics.
I have edited in an ONS page on vaccine caused deaths to my previous post.
As these are the only definite and most credible statistics I have, I'll go with them until I find more credible ones.
originally posted by: Gradcrop
a reply to: chr0naut
What is really intriguing is the way you try to whitewash the wrongdoings and actions taken of the various governments around the world, excusing and justifying the use of some failed medical products, and gaslight anyone who doesn't accept the official narratives that have been debunked. Not only various vaccines have been withdrawn from the market and various lawsuits exist against governments and pharmaceuticals but officials are now investigated on murder charges.
Who would have thought it a few years ago?!
originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
Like what?
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
Warn that the vax wasn’t what it was purported to be?
Like these e-mails point out? Like that?
Lulz.
originally posted by: Gradcrop
The statistics don't show how many people have been saved by the vaccines. It's a very misleading statement. Statistics can show how many people have died due to Covid.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
I suppose that the court case will come down to a comparison between the numbers saved by the immunizations, and the numbers harmed by the immunizations.
Already reasonably sound estimates are out that give us a figure for how many lives were saved by the immunizations.
All they have to do is prove that there were more deaths caused by the immunizations and they automatically win the case.
COVID vaccines saved 20 million lives in first year, study says
There is no evidence as to the number saved by immunization. That's an unsubstantiated claim with no merits other than propaganda and lies by those who promoted the vaccines including the pharmaceutical companies. But there is plenty of evidence people were harmed and died due to these products and that's why a number of vaccines have been withdrawn completely from the market and others have been made available only for the over 60s or 70s.
Sure, then publish a link to the credible alternate statistics.
I have edited in an ONS page on vaccine caused deaths to my previous post.
As these are the only definite and most credible statistics I have, I'll go with them until I find more credible ones.
The official narratives have been debunked and no information is credible on this subject. You can't rely on official 'data' I am afraid.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
The statistics don't show how many people have been saved by the vaccines. It's a very misleading statement. Statistics can show how many people have died due to Covid.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
I suppose that the court case will come down to a comparison between the numbers saved by the immunizations, and the numbers harmed by the immunizations.
Already reasonably sound estimates are out that give us a figure for how many lives were saved by the immunizations.
All they have to do is prove that there were more deaths caused by the immunizations and they automatically win the case.
COVID vaccines saved 20 million lives in first year, study says
There is no evidence as to the number saved by immunization. That's an unsubstantiated claim with no merits other than propaganda and lies by those who promoted the vaccines including the pharmaceutical companies. But there is plenty of evidence people were harmed and died due to these products and that's why a number of vaccines have been withdrawn completely from the market and others have been made available only for the over 60s or 70s.
Sure, then publish a link to the credible alternate statistics.
I have edited in an ONS page on vaccine caused deaths to my previous post.
As these are the only definite and most credible statistics I have, I'll go with them until I find more credible ones.
The linked Lancet paper outlines its sources, methods and calculations:
Global impact of the first year of COVID-19 vaccination: a mathematical modelling study
The official narratives have been debunked and no information is credible on this subject. You can't rely on official 'data' I am afraid.
On what basis were the official narratives debunked if there is no information that is credible on the subject?
Surely you don't actually think that saying something is 'debunked', without some sort of verifiable evidence, is valid reasoning?
Even unreliable data is better than not having any data at all and basing your unassailable opinion on nothing.
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
I suppose that the court case will come down to a comparison between the numbers saved by the immunizations, and the numbers harmed by the immunizations.
originally posted by: ksihkahe
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Gradcrop
originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Gradcrop
Will they also be investigating the COVID-19 deniers and super-spreaders who refused to take actions against the disease and encouraged others to do likewise?
You seem to be a vaccine apologist who refuses to admit that these vaccines have caused a range of serious adverse reactions and deaths following vaccine mandates, lies and propaganda, by the mainstream media that pushed the government narratives.
Nobody will be investigating those who refused to get 'vaccinated' and refused to peddle the government narratives and dogma. They are on the right side of history and haven't committed any crimes.
I suppose that the court case will come down to a comparison between the numbers saved by the immunizations, and the numbers harmed by the immunizations.
No, the court case will come down to violating law and how much money the pharmaceutical industry and their many proxies have poured into the media and government services of Italy.
Just because a bunch of morons believe more lies about a gorillion people being saved from vaccines that don't prevent illness or transmission, from proven liars... like you... doesn't mean that laws were not violated.
Why anybody would listen to you after you recently quintupled down on lying with the claim that Ivermectin, salt, and sugar are more harmful than COVID vaccines I can't guess. You should lead every post with that utter nonsense so people can decide how credible you are.
But just in case anyone reading is new... this poster is spreading flase information in other threads and has been posting misleading and false information for years. They literally have never deviated from what the pharmaceutical influencers have propagated, as they were paid handsomely to do. They have offered not a single criticism of the video evidence of the Pfizer CEO lying to the public about transmission. They have not condemned the officials they sourced for their facts admitting to lying about transmission to justify the premise of segregating society and to continue denying medical treatment to unvaccinated individuals. They lied to better trick the population into taking a vaccine that they also refused to give you transparent informed consent for. This poster is on their side... but they say we're the dangerous ones.
They don't care about truth. They care about a political narratives. There can be no real discussion because there can be no back and forth, no admission of error... only the narrative. They believe that you are all so dumb and ignorant that after telling lies for three years you will be shamed into not believing the facts they desperately tried to censor and lied to you about. All with the end goal of having you take a novel therapy that is known to contain DNA contamination in excess of establish limits, to have had no thorough QA/QC, to contain oncological promoters, to have the ability to enter your blood stream, to produce toxic spike proteins in places that would never be exposed ti them during normal respiratory infection.
Now they have been discovered making outright false claims with no plausible data that could ever be misconstrued to fit their lies, that they knew to be false and now refuse to address. This is three years of denial, three years of repeating the same lies as if building on them makes them true. They still haven't acknowledged that the majority of COVID deaths before vaccine deployment were people with multiple comorbidities that were over the average age of life expectancy. They still pretend the deaths were not heavily manipulated and constantly exaggerated... which even the NY Times shills have admitted. Healthy people under 60 were never at real risk and the world never had to shut down. The disease is endemic, was always going to be, and now those with uncompromised immune systems have been exposed. Every year their immunity will update via natural processes and those that continue to vaccinate will have increasingly diminished capacity to adapt immune response.
This nonsense how deniers and super spreaders should be tried for murder is absurd hyperbole and is the same kind dumb lie they used early on to censor victims of vaccine injuries and jail innocent people engaging in basic human rights like being outside. These sick people want you in jail for spreading COVID that the US Government paid to engineer and say it's your fault grandma died, but if you get HIV after decades of unprotected sex with strangers and give it to a teen during a sexual assault they'll post your bail and call you a victim.
This poster has consistently downplayed credible reports of adverse events, having only ever denied that any were happening. They adopted an authoritarian one-size-fits all opinion in line with their apparently crack-addled PM... supporting the destruction of small business, children's educational development, and basic human rights for pandemic control methods that were long disregarded in public health planning because they were known to be ineffective and counter-productive to long term population health.
They continue to deny that COVID vaccines are proven without any credible refutation to have had more VAERS reports of adverse events than all other marketed vaccines combined, ever. The trial data was highly manipulated, their subsequent claims based on trial data have been thoroughly proven fraudulent, and the poster in question has failed to ever accept responsibility for promoting lies told by the people he claims are authorities.
They will not address their open disregard for medical ethics or why they believe healthy children should be put at any additional risk of death or disability for an ineffective therapy, with known genetic contamination, that provides them no benefit because they are documented to have almost no risk of serious illness from COVID. Prior to vaccine deployment there were no healthy children that I can find that died from COVID... yet they lied about dead kids and pediatric ICUs to drive fear and this poster still lies about it today.
This poster is okay with you and your kids taking risks of unknown frequency and magnitude several times a year for a disease you are still going to get, with drugs and techniques that have a history of safety failures that kept them from being approved under normal trial conditions, and you not being given full and transparent access to the data for them. They support and continue to defend the censorship of regular people who tell the truth, because their lies do not survive an educated refutation from people that actually know the field and follow the science.