Joe Rogan Uses Drugs & Owns Guns

originally posted by: Mahogani
Let's not forget Elon Musk smoking weed with Joe Rogan, on his show.

And we know Elon Musk has licenses for guns, as he has recorded himself at times.

Link

Or maybe he owns all that without a license.

Maybe it wasn't his, right? He borrows things, he doesn't buy them. Anything is possible.

Elon Musk reveals he sleeps next to two guns

If you use a schedule one drug & use guns no matter who’s or how you got them , it is a federal violation.

I wasn’t there to witness what happened. Neither were you. You don’t know if the gun store owner was told he was Joe Biden’s Son, and the gun store owner or employee didn’t just give it a pass. We don’t even know there was a background check done. If he was not a prohibited person, then why did the secret service raid the gun store and take only Hunter’s 4473 paperwork?

If Hunter Biden isn’t a prohibited person, why does any of this matter in the first place to where a gun store had its record of the purchase seized?

I didn’t say you were wrong about Joe Rogan. Be my guest. Report him. Report Elon Musk. Hell, report 90 percent of congress, the senate, and the president himself. None of those people are drug free and sober. In fact, I would bet money dimes to donuts at least half of law enforcement is on some kind of dope. Our whole country is full of dopers and loons who are on medications that in a lot of cases prevent them from actually functioning rationally.

I guess my point here is that you might want to look at the whole reason why it’s a big deal that Hunter had the gun in the first place, because if he was not a prohibited person, there shouldn’t be any charges what so ever. From all I have read and seen online, the issue was that he was a felon, as per a drug related charge, and was a prohibited person. It’s not just about lying on a 4473.

Because if it were just the drugs, nobody in our government could with a straight face be indignant.
a reply to: BehindYou

a reply to: Unseendimension

I don't think the gun store gave them the 4473. They told them to pound sand.

But a curious thing happened at the time: Secret Service agents approached the owner of the store where Hunter bought the gun and asked to take the paperwork involving the sale, according to two people, one of whom has firsthand knowledge of the episode and the other was briefed by a Secret Service agent after the fact.


The gun store owner refused to supply the paperwork, suspecting that the Secret Service officers wanted to hide Hunter’s ownership of the missing gun in case it were to be involved in a crime, the two people said. The owner, Ron Palmieri, later turned over the papers to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which oversees federal gun laws.

The Secret Service says it has no record of its agents investigating the incident, and Joe Biden, who was not under protection at the time, said through a spokesperson he has no knowledge of any Secret Service involvement.

www.politico.com...

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: BehindYou

Reality is Joe Rogan openly uses drugs on video , podcasts , public & private. Joe also owns guns & admitted to having a concealed carry license for a gun or weapons.
Now straighten up and get back on the subject at hand while leaving the cold reality of being wrong on this matter behind you . Good day to you chopped pork

what does he have? Does he have a class 3? I'd like to hear what he owns.

Rumours

And that is all you have to go on for any of this.....

As I have said many times, that you have failed to provide, is you need to provide some hard evidence for your claims before you continue to slander and defame someone's name.

originally posted by: Unseendimension
I wasn’t there to witness what happened. Neither were you. You don’t know if the gun store owner was told he was Joe Biden’s Son, and the gun store owner or employee didn’t just give it a pass. We don’t even know there was a background check done. If he was not a prohibited person, then why did the secret service raid the gun store and take only Hunter’s 4473 paperwork?

If Hunter Biden isn’t a prohibited person, why does any of this matter in the first place to where a gun store had its record of the purchase seized?

I didn’t say you were wrong about Joe Rogan. Be my guest. Report him. Report Elon Musk. Hell, report 90 percent of congress, the senate, and the president himself. None of those people are drug free and sober. In fact, I would bet money dimes to donuts at least half of law enforcement is on some kind of dope. Our whole country is full of dopers and loons who are on medications that in a lot of cases prevent them from actually functioning rationally.

I guess my point here is that you might want to look at the whole reason why it’s a big deal that Hunter had the gun in the first place, because if he was not a prohibited person, there shouldn’t be any charges what so ever. From all I have read and seen online, the issue was that he was a felon, as per a drug related charge, and was a prohibited person. It’s not just about lying on a 4473.

Because if it were just the drugs, nobody in our government could with a straight face be indignant.
a reply to: BehindYou

Ok lets break this down , I can’t find one bit of evidence that Hunter Biden was a felon prior to buying a gun , because Hunter has no felony charges up to this gun one .
If Hunter Biden was a felon , there is no way his 4473 background check & State check wouldn’t have flagged him as a felon & ended the gun sale right there. You can lie all you want on a form , but when the background check comes back as prohibited there is no legal sale of a gun to that flagged person.
Now the gun owner could have sold the gun to Hunter anyway , but he would be in Federal prison already for that . Further more , if Hunter lied about past criminal charges or felonies on his 4473 form .. the minute his name was ran for the check the Feds would have come knocking within days , because it’s a felony to lie on your 4473 form .
It’s impossible to hide or cover up criminal charges when your name is ran , but drug use is easy to hide by lying about having no drug use or addictions , because unless you have drug charges felonies or not , it’s next to impossible to prove you lied about drug use on the 4473 form .
Now it’s possible Hunter has a felony I can’t find , but he would have been arrested days after trying to buy a gun & lying about a felony.
So the most likely scenario is exactly the way it was described: Hunter bought a gun legally by lying about drug use on his 4473 & then years later goes on national tv as well other outlets rambling on about his prior drug addictions , use & treatments.
That’s when the Feds payed attention & charged him.
Personally I believe the gun purchase felony was settled on by the DOJ & Joe Biden so Joe can claim justice was served even to my son . Thus turning attention away from the real Hunter Biden crimes of selling influence worldwide for the Big Guy .
Hunter didn’t have a felony when he bought the gun , but he did have a serious drug problem & admitted such .
So how can Joe Rogan & Post Malone be gun owners?
Those two have years worth of video of them smoking weed & admitting to doing all kinds of drugs & they own serious amounts of firearms ?
Im not into getting anyone in trouble over it and truly believe that drug use should not prohibit yoy from gun ownership.
You can drink alcohol around the clock and own as many guns , silencers , full autos & destructive devices legally with background checks & stamps .
Whiskey & guns combo has killed millions of people.
The whole 4473 form needs an overhaul, because of cannabis alone .
As for the gun shop’s paper work being seized is standard Fed protocol for this scenario.
Owning a gun is an awesome right to have , but it’s serious business & thats why the Federal laws on tampering with your 4473 form is a felony with prison time . The Feds live to comb through paperwork.

a reply to: BehindYou

Trying to restrict my 1st amendment rights now are we?

I will go away when you can back up your nonsense claims with more than just assumptions and rumors on your end. No more videos or articles claiming they quote Rogan directly.

Pictures of his firearms transfer form or just give up.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Unseendimension

I don't think the gun store gave them the 4473. They told them to pound sand.

But a curious thing happened at the time: Secret Service agents approached the owner of the store where Hunter bought the gun and asked to take the paperwork involving the sale, according to two people, one of whom has firsthand knowledge of the episode and the other was briefed by a Secret Service agent after the fact.


The gun store owner refused to supply the paperwork, suspecting that the Secret Service officers wanted to hide Hunter’s ownership of the missing gun in case it were to be involved in a crime, the two people said. The owner, Ron Palmieri, later turned over the papers to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, which oversees federal gun laws.

The Secret Service says it has no record of its agents investigating the incident, and Joe Biden, who was not under protection at the time, said through a spokesperson he has no knowledge of any Secret Service involvement.

www.politico.com...

Im not sure on that & doubt the secret service has the Federal rights to view anyone’s 4473 ?
If it’s true the SS tried to take the paperwork , that is more than likely out of their jurisdictions.
The DOJ has departments that can come take your paperwork from a gun shop .
Joe tried a fast one & was hoping the gun store owner would poop his pants & hand over the paperwork thus erasing all wrongdoing. Who know ?
They are all crooks.
I want to know the difference from Hunter telling Barbra Walters about his drug use & what Joe Rogan does daily ? Yet one gets charged with felonies & the other is making podcasts & shooting guns all the time ?

a reply to: BehindYou

Hunter Biden is no way comparable to Joe Rogan in this regard. Hunter has been implicated in the distribution and trafficking of drugs. Joe Rogan uses cannabis recrestionally/medically. BIG difference!


ATS seems to have developed a case of refer madness recently. Are they pushing this s*** on FOX or something?

You are aware you can privately purchase a gun without a background check?

I'm curious do you actually believe someone who consumes cannabis should loose their 2nd amendment rights?

What about alcohol?
It kills far more people yearly than cannabis.

As a patriot it should be your duty to oppose unjust laws across the board not complain the boot should be applied equally. Only stooges do that...

originally posted by: JAY1980
a reply to: BehindYou

Hunter Biden is no way comparable to Joe Rogan in this regard. Hunter has been implicated in the distribution and trafficking of drugs. Joe Rogan uses cannabis recrestionally/medically. BIG difference!


ATS seems to have developed a case of refer madness recently. Are they pushing this s*** on FOX or something?

You are aware you can privately purchase a gun without a background check?

I'm curious do you actually believe someone who consumes cannabis should loose their 2nd amendment rights?

What about alcohol?
It kills far more people yearly than cannabis.

As a patriot it should be your duty to oppose unjust laws across the board not complain the boot should be applied equally. Only stooges do that...

If you read any of this thread , you would see I believe drug use shouldn’t infringe on your 2A rights.
It doesn’t matter if you traffic drugs or smoke cannabis… the question on the 4473 form is extremely clear about marijuana use . It’s yes or no.
There is no Hunter did something worse .
If Joe Rogan has filled out a 4473 to obtain a gun he has committed felony under Federal law .
If Joe Rogan bought a gun from his neighbor without a background check ( legal in many states) and is using cannabis openly on video as well admitting to smoking a schedule 1 drug , he is committing a felony.
Ill make this real simple : No matter who’s gun , you cant be an unlawful user of drugs & shoot guns period.

In Texas, If Joe has a Texas medical MJ license he can legally own a firearm, he can also get a carry permit. Medical MJ in Texas is a little more stringent than elsewhere as far as conditions but Joe has lots of money for a Dr to get him most anything he wants. I would assume he’s covered his ass, IDK. As far as anything else he could just say he’s not addicted to anything.

In Oklahoma it’s perfectly legal to have a MJ card and firearms, including open carry. Not sure about other states. You can get per state info on MJ and firearm legalities at the link I provided.

But the Texas Department of Public Safety said that they don’t think participation in the state’s Compassionate Use Program makes a person ineligible to own a gun or get a Texas License to Carry. However, a patient’s underlying condition could make them ineligible. If a person’s medical condition could make it hard for them to make good decisions, DPS may send the case to the Medical Advisory Board under the Texas Department of Social and Health Services (DSHS) for review and advice.

www.thecannabiscommunity.org...

originally posted by: BehindYou

originally posted by: PorkChop96
a reply to: Mahogani

There is no questions about drugs on a Texas conceal carry application.

Want to try that rant again?

Texas is specific in you select gun only & there must be other paperwork for other weapons?. No one applies for a ccw to carry a pocket knife & Joe Rogan has described his process to acquire a ccw permit for a gun.
So either Joe lied about drug use to purchase a gun,
is in possession of guns bought other ways than requiring a federal background check or state one & is still federally culpable , because he openly uses as well admits to using multiple illegal drugs all the time .
Checkmate & done , now scurry back to your anger & inability to accept reality fort or hole .

Not necessarily true, see my post above. You can’t prove how often someone uses a drug and who qualifies for habitual use, who can make that determination legally?

a reply to: KrustyKrab


PM4U

a reply to: PorkChop96
Back to ya, thx👍

Tis a good argument.
But rogan is simply a podcaster and not the son of the president being flown around world taxpayer funded on air force 2 to make multimillion dollar business deals with foreign nations and advancing the chinese "belt and road initiative" all while dating his brothers widow whom happened to be the person that illegally disposed of his gun next to a school bc he was so twacked out on meth and coc aine that she feared for her own life and hunters life bc of what he was saying and thinking. Then the secret service assigned a team to spread out and search for said improperly disposed of gun. His story is much more than just the drug use. There is a lot of illegalities surrounding that gun purchase and wasted who knows how much taxpayer money behind a gun thay didnt cost more than $1500 most likely.

But ive always felt that drug usage shouldnt be a disqualifier to protecting ones self. If u are intoxicated when attempting to purchase i can see that being a crime. But just bc u smoke some pot shouldnt disqualify a god given right to self protection or even heroin user if they can afford one why prevent it? If u are arrested and covicted of a felony for drugs then ur s.o.l. anyways so if u havent been convicted and are not ineligible for some other reason you should be able to own a gun to protect self and family.