No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election

originally posted by: network dude

If you are going to discuss the video, you should at the very least, watch the video.

Oh, so you are also unable to answer my questions about the hoax video as well. As expected!

a reply to: bruce88

well, I actually did watch it. And it did show a lot of things that warrant more investigation. It wasn't meant to be the end all proof of election fraud, it was just supposed to be a new way of looking at facts, and shows some anomalies that could prove to show some fraud. Again, if you watched it, you would know that.

originally posted by: network dude
and shows some anomalies that could prove to show some fraud.

That would be people wearing hoodies, cars with 1 numberplate and people sensibly wearing masks during a covid pandemic!

www.factcheck.org... shows how silly the movie is - do not knock the site, how about you dispute the facts it explains?

"But in Georgia, at least, the state Bureau of Investigation says it won’t be doing that without more information.

“What has not been provided is any other kind of evidence that ties these cell phones to ballot harvesting; for example, there are no statements of witnesses and no names of any potential defendants to interview,” Victor Reynolds, director of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, wrote on Sept. 30, 2021, to the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party and Phillips from True the Vote. “Saliently, it has been stated that there is ‘a source’ that can validate ballot harvesting. Despite repeated requests that source has not been provided to either the GBI or to the FBI.

“As it exists, the data, while curious, does not rise to the level of probable cause that a crime has been committed,”"

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: bruce88

well, I actually did watch it. And it did show a lot of things that warrant more investigation. It wasn't meant to be the end all proof of election fraud, it was just supposed to be a new way of looking at facts, and shows some anomalies that could prove to show some fraud. Again, if you watched it, you would know that.

After so many attempts and failures by the Trump supporters and followers there is no evidence the 2020 election was stolen. It remains a conspiracy theory created to mud the waters and divert from the huge the attention of the real issue of the huge defeat of this charlatan who many Americans voted and willing to do again.

a reply to: Jane1B

I can't although I've seen several because I didn't save the links because I lost interest. I'm hoping the Dems can pull off another big cheat in 2024. If they can take Texas, the US will be a one party authoritarian state like China.

originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: Jane1B

I can't although I've seen several because I didn't save the links because I lost interest. I'm hoping the Dems can pull off another big cheat in 2024. If they can take Texas, the US will be a one party authoritarian state like China.

Can you tell me in which states the vote was stolen

a reply to: bruce88

What the investigation did, is place the same cell phone signal at locations close to designated targets. No, it doesn't prove that the person with that phone did anything wrong, or even went to those places. But it did show that many of the same signals did remarkably similar routes and all very close to drop boxes.

Now again, this doesn't prove anything. But it does posit the theory that the mail in ballots were collected and housed in central locations, filled out, and distributed to drop boxes around the city areas. And in some places, that isn't a crime. As long as those ballots were filled out by the people who voted.

Now you couple that with the FACT that numbers were announced daily, ballots were allowed to be collected after the deadline (due to Covid), and just enough ballots were found for Biden to win. And knowing the left and many on the right were rabid anti-Trumpers, and claimed they would fight against Trump BAMN, I have to believe them. I don't think they were lying. Well, I believe they added fraudulent ballots in order for Biden to win. That is my belief. I am allowed to have it, and you can't do anything but cry buckets about it.

If the signatures were properly verified, and thresholds weren't fudged (again for Covid), then this may not have worked. But they were, and it did. A proper audit of one of the swing states that had the miraculous Biden wins, would tell the true tail. And it very well might prove that theory baseless. But without a proper audit, we will always be left with folks like me who think it was a #ed up election. You could prove you aren't a partisan DERP by showing posts you made chastising the left for calling the 2016 election illegitimate, but you won't, because you didn't, and you cant'.

Plus you are a NOOB. And if you wish to claim you have "been here for years", provide your past account names. Otherwise, well, you know.

originally posted by: Jane1B

originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: Jane1B

I can't although I've seen several because I didn't save the links because I lost interest. I'm hoping the Dems can pull off another big cheat in 2024. If they can take Texas, the US will be a one party authoritarian state like China.

Can you tell me in which states the vote was stolen

They could indeed tell you, but it would be like talking to a lamp post. Same as in the courtrooms when leftist judges refused to even look at all the reported and documented instances of blatant voter fraud.

Lamp posts cannot be communicated with as you keep on proving over and over and over again.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Jane1B

originally posted by: Cvastar
a reply to: Jane1B

I can't although I've seen several because I didn't save the links because I lost interest. I'm hoping the Dems can pull off another big cheat in 2024. If they can take Texas, the US will be a one party authoritarian state like China.

Can you tell me in which states the vote was stolen

They could indeed tell you, but it would be like talking to a lamp post. Same as in the courtrooms when leftist judges refused to even look at all the reported and documented instances of blatant voter fraud.

Lamp posts cannot be communicated with as you keep on proving over and over and over again.

You can tell me.
In which states the vote was stolen?

a reply to: bruce88

So what "Law(s)" say what photo and filming is "Authorized" or "unAuthorized"??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

a reply to: Jane1B

changing your story once again huh?

if a judge never allows evidence to be presented its kind of hard to prove, and as we saw in 2000 even when the courts weigh in some groups would never accept it... 23 yrs later and many dems still say it was stolen.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: bruce88

What the investigation did, is place the same cell phone signal at locations close to designated targets.

No, they do not. "GPS data from apps on cellphones are only accurate to around 40 feet. Research published by the University of Georgia in 2019 concluded that iPhone GPS was only accurate in a range of 7 to 13 meters (23 to 43 feet)."
Funny that, when most people go to work they follow the same route everyday, and the drop boxes were placed in busy locations!

But it did show that many of the same signals did remarkably similar routes and all very close to drop boxes.

People generally follow the same route to work... and the drop boxes were placed in busy areas.
Also you would have read

But it does posit the theory that the mail in ballots were collected and housed in central locations, filled out, and distributed to drop boxes around the city areas.

Except the computer graphics that were supposed to show that was just a lie!
"“What you see here on this screen is a single person on a single day in Atlanta, Georgia,” Phillips explains. “They went to 28 drop boxes and five organizations in one day.”

But as Philip Bump of the Washington Post learned, the dots purporting to be drop box locations did not match up with actual drop box locations. And he called Phillips on it.

Phillips responded via email that “the movie graphics are not literal interpretations of our data.”"

So they just made it up!

A proper audit of one of the swing states that had the miraculous Biden wins, would tell the true tail.

It did tell the true tale - Voters had enough of the failed trump presidency, and fired him and voted in President Biden - but some are unwilling to accept that people did not vote for their cult leader.

But without a proper audit,

We had proper audits.... Oh, so a "proper audit" is a audit that shows loser trump won is what you are saying!

we will always be left with folks like me who think it was a #ed up election.

Yes, before your cult leader lost, and you are unable to accept that fact.

why is it so hard to believe 81 million people voted for the dems.. the US has what.. over 330 million people with "240 million people were eligible to vote in the 2020"

81 mill for biden, 74 million for trump... that leaves a big chunk they didnt vote

"stolen election" is stupid, people voted and a winner got chosen.. if the dems really had a way to steal elections you think there would be any gop wins? lol

if anything, i wouldnt be surprised if the gop won the next election

originally posted by: Jane1B
`You can tell me.
In which states the vote was stolen?

Actually, they have sort of told you - their silence means - ZERO states were stolen!

Its funny people are still in denial after the Times came out with that article that basically told us how they stole the election... under the disguise of 'saving the election' LOL

The same people also told us H Bidens laptop was disinformation.

The simple fact is it is easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled.

originally posted by: navigator70

The simple fact is it is easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled.

One only has to loop at loser trump cultists to show that!

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Jane1B

changing your story once again huh?

if a judge never allows evidence to be presented its kind of hard to prove, and as we saw in 2000 even when the courts weigh in some groups would never accept it... 23 yrs later and many dems still say it was stolen.

You can show me if there was any evidence presented and the judges decided not to accept it. Any evidence the election was stolen? In which states there was massive election fraud?

Do you know the term 'burden of proof' ??

originally posted by: bruce88

originally posted by: Jane1B
`You can tell me.
In which states the vote was stolen?

Actually, they have sort of told you - their silence means - ZERO states were stolen!

They aren't able to give me any state with facts where the election was stolen.

Here you go. Swing States or Battleground states.

Link

Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin combined were about 110k votes. It handed the election to BIden.

Arizona - Lost by @ 10k votes but had 140k more votes than 2016 - Won 2016 by 3.5%
Florida - Gained votes and won both times and 100k more votes than 2016, Obama won here in 2012
Georgia - Lost by @ 8k votes but had 400k more votes than 2016 - Won 2016 by 5%
Iowa - Gained votes and won both times and 100k more votes than 2016
Michigan - Lost by @ 150k votes but had 400k more votes than 2016 - Won 2016 by .5%
Nevada - Lost by @120k votes but had 140k more votes than in 2016 -Lost Both
North Carolina - Gained votes and won both times and 400k more votes than 2016
Ohio - Gained votes and won both times and 300k more votes than 2016
Pennsylvania - Lost by @ 80k votes but had 350k more votes than 2016 - Won 2016 by .7%
Wisconsin - Lost by @ 20k votes but had 200k more votes than 2016 - Won 2016 by .5%

He also took and held Iowa. Obama had that in 2012.

In no states did he go backward. Statistically to me this is not possible. We are supposed to believe the same states he gained votes in, and was willing before midnight, ALL flipped?

The numbers do not show someone who is hated. Just the opposite. It would be very easy to accept if he truly did tank in 2020, have 57 million in the popular...but that did not happen.

Have any of you ever looked up who the actual electors are? In ANY newscast ever have you heard that HIllary Clinton is an elector as well as her husband Bill? How about Letitia James? All Electors in NY so do not ever think it is all not rigged. A US Elector who ran on a platform to jail someone is trying to do that to a former president running for office. Amazing.

It is not coincidence all the states he won in 2016, that gave him the won, flipped but he gained voters. The guy who is so hated.

Just read it is almost time to put the masks back on...happened the same time in 2019.

originally posted by: bruce88


One only has to loop at loser trump cultists to show that!

Nice job pf projection, but the fact is The Times article came right out and told you how they did it, and yet youre still falling for it. Some people only see what they want.