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originally posted by: theatreboy
a reply to: Rosby123
I am sorry, but i don't buy it.
I will say it again, all these governments denied aliens...and now they are telling us about them? And you believe them?
We find new species all the time. Just because we don't know that DNA, doesn't mean it is not from this planet. It could be an extinct animal, or something we have not "discovered" yet.
I don't get this new found faith in science. Especially after the last 4 years or so.
Don't trust the government....unless they agree with you? Is that our new motto?
originally posted by: theatreboy
a reply to: Rosby123
It just reminds me of Piltdown all over again.
And so many people have been conditioned to believe scientists know it all, that they just believe it. It seems scientists are the new priests. They are just taken at their word by the masses. no pun intended.
(and thanks for knowing i wasn't attacking you in my first post. when I reread it, it felt a little harsh. sorry)
To say that Maussan has a history of being debunked, is an understatement! I would consider anything he's associated with as tainted by his disreputable association:
originally posted by: Rosby123
Back in September of this year Mexican journalist and UFO enthusiast José Jaime Maussan claimed they have discovered for the first time in the history of mankind non human alien corpses when he testified in Mexico's Congress. The skeletons were authentic and real, researchers have argued, without saying there were definitely alien.
Benítez doesn't seem to be any more reputable than Maussan.
Maussan reported on a supposed alien body found in Peru in 2015 that was later debunked as the mummified corpse of a human child.
Benítez was also a lead researcher in the presentation of the debunked body discovery, which showed six three-finger mummified bodies in a YouTube video posted in 2017 by Gaia.com, which has been scrutinized as a conspiracy theory hub.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
To say that Maussan has a history of being debunked, is an understatement! I would consider anything he's associated with as tainted by his disreputable association:
originally posted by: Rosby123
Back in September of this year Mexican journalist and UFO enthusiast José Jaime Maussan claimed they have discovered for the first time in the history of mankind non human alien corpses when he testified in Mexico's Congress. The skeletons were authentic and real, researchers have argued, without saying there were definitely alien.
Aliens In Mexico? Not So Fast—Presenters Have History Of Being Debunked
Benítez doesn't seem to be any more reputable than Maussan.
Maussan reported on a supposed alien body found in Peru in 2015 that was later debunked as the mummified corpse of a human child.
Benítez was also a lead researcher in the presentation of the debunked body discovery, which showed six three-finger mummified bodies in a YouTube video posted in 2017 by Gaia.com, which has been scrutinized as a conspiracy theory hub.
originally posted by: TheLieWeLive
a reply to: Rosby123
I don’t buy this because the information is vague.
A 30% unknown species that is not human doesn’t rule out an unknown species of monkey. That is why I think they are not releasing what the other 70% is because it’s probably a Macaques monkey mixed with another breed that no longer exists and yet to be recorded.
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And a report from Peru’s prosecutor’s office declared the specimens were “recently manufactured dolls, which have been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic glue to simulate the presence of skin,” per Megan Janetsky of the Associated Press.
“It’s just the corpse of a skinned squirrel-monkey. I took its ears out and involved it with all the hair and fluids of all animals I could find, then I dried it. All samples they take of it will come out as being of different animals.”
lawmakers were also shown videos of Mexican pilots struggling to make sense of fast-moving flying objects before them — included experts speaking in support of Maussan. But some who spoke felt Maussan’s claims were an “unsubstantiated stunt” and “a huge step backwards for this issue.”
José de Jesús Zalce Benítez, director of the Scientific Institute for Health of the Mexican Navy, who said X-rays, 3D reconstruction and DNA analysis had been carried out on the remains.“I can affirm that these bodies have no relation to human beings,” he told the lawmakers.
In light of the hearing, UNAM reissued a statement from 2017 saying the work by its National Laboratory of Mass Spectrometry with Accelerators (LEMA) was only intended to determine the age of the samples. “In no case do we make conclusions about the origin of said samples,” the statement said.
Here's an article from livescience about the mummies. No need to mention Maussan, the scientists say they are manipulated fakes.
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Rosby123
Maussan is irrelevant in any discussion on this. Wasting the time using his lack of good standing to debunk the find is just attacking the source instead of the information.
Live Science has found that some of these mummies may represent a combination of the looting and manipulation of real human mummy parts...
Grotesquely, the hands and feet seen on this mummy, and possibly the others, may also be parts of real human mummies that have been manipulated by forgers, the white coating added afterward to hide the manipulations, said Nelson, who is not involved with research on the mummies. [Photos: The Amazing Mummies of Peru and Egypt]
A number of other researchers also believe that real human mummy parts were used to create these fakes. A dozen Peruvian mummy researchers have put out a statement condemning the practice saying that it "has violated numerous national and international norms."
One of the researchers who signed the statement told Live Science that "I particularly find repulsive that anyone would [dare] to dehumanize deceased human bodies. You can't take away the condition of human to a human being!" said Guido Lombardi a professor of forensic sciences at Universidad Peruana Cayetano Heredia...
While the three-fingered mummies clearly seem to be fakes of some kind, scientists have discovered numerous mummified remains in Peru, including 171 mummies from tombs excavated near the site of Tenahaha, which date back around 1,200 years. [Photos: Hundreds of Mummies Found in Peru]
While some mummies in Peru have been discovered by scientists, others, such as the ones that may have been used to create these "aliens," are stolen by looters, who are known to ransack ancient Peruvian tombs before archaeologists are able to scientifically excavate them.