A hill to die on

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I should have also stated, that the wise poster also stated. . .

Debates are to determine WHAT is right.

Arguments are to determine WHO is right.

They're wrong about that as well.

In debate, logical arguments are used in support for, or against, a resolution.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I should have also stated, that the wise poster also stated. . .

Debates are to determine WHAT is right.

Arguments are to determine WHO is right.

They're wrong about that as well.

In debate, logical arguments are used in support for, or against, a resolution.

You have yet to illustrate that you are smarter so, ummm, no.

a reply to: DBCowboy

For clarification, regarding illustrate.


Do you accept crayon?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

For clarification, regarding illustrate.


Do you accept crayon?

Eating crayons makes your poop look colorful.

But to elaborate. . . Sharknado is NOT a documentary.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Sharknado is NOT a documentary.

Clearly this is deepstate propaganda.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I should have also stated, that the wise poster also stated. . .

Debates are to determine WHAT is right.

Arguments are to determine WHO is right.

They're wrong about that as well.

In debate, logical arguments are used in support for, or against, a resolution.

You have yet to illustrate that you are smarter so, ummm, no.

Is that your modus operandi in debate?

Who can look the smartestest?

That's not a hill to die on.

That's a pit to die in.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I should have also stated, that the wise poster also stated. . .

Debates are to determine WHAT is right.

Arguments are to determine WHO is right.

They're wrong about that as well.

In debate, logical arguments are used in support for, or against, a resolution.

You have yet to illustrate that you are smarter so, ummm, no.

Is that your modus operandi in debate?

Who can look the smartestest?

That's not a hill to die on.

That's a pit to die in.

Sharknado is still not a documentary.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Citation for the number of dead civilians please.

originally posted by: NorthOS
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Citation for the number of dead civilians please.

Just google hamas/lies.com

a reply to: DBCowboy

Did a Google.

This is from November 7th but I think it is still their mode of operation.

Palestinian authorities don’t make a distinction between combatants and civilians but vulnerable groups — children, health workers and journalists — are among those who make up much of the grim and still growing death toll.

It appears that this is why some posters here are saying that the IDF isn’t killing Hamas.

In response, Israel responded with air and land attacks on the Gaza Strip, which have resulted in 10,305 deaths, according to a spokesperson for the Palestinian Ministry of Health in the besieged enclave. CNN cannot independently verify the numbers released by the ministry.

www.cnn.com...

“The Palestinian Ministry of Health” Hardly independent and impartial. Isn’t that the standard that was set by the same posters in many threads?

So no distinction between civilians and terrorists and bias numbers.

a reply to: NorthOS

Back in the day, we used to make fun of Baghdad Bob, now the same personae is giving data to MSNBC.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Not sure how to stand with Israel after they attacked the Liberty. What are your thoughts and knowledge on that?

I ask your knowledge on the Liberty and her sinking before I give you my knowledge.

Or I give you mine now to give you time to make up your story that the Israeli fighter planes that attacked and sank the Liberty were just tourist paragliders that accidently dropped stuff.

The Liberty was a spy ship. manned with men of my fathers unit of the Army Security agency. Men my father knew.

Israel destroyed that American flag flying ship intentionally.
You have no ties to that boat, I get it... before your time.... I get it.... I do.

I do not support any Fing terrorist like hamas....

I know you claim to be a Constitutionalist, but your support of Trump who claimed to never swear to defend the Constitution, Said suspend all laws even those in the Constitution, begs otherwise.

Were you military? Lets say a Blackwater group wiped out your whole unit, you were sole survivor, how long would it take you to forgive Blackwater and for you then to actually support them?

It is your hill to die on, but I would rather you live on that hill. I support Israel, then I remember that... Choices are not always black and white.

I stand with the Lord Jesus Christ. Condemning the violence on both sides, and hoping for the repentance of this ancient fued.

No one with a conscience can see children hurt and not see adject evil in that. The same for the elderly and the infirm.

This is a tragedy on mankind and it's ALL caused by our unwillingness to accept the one who brings peace, Jesus Christ.

No one will move me from this position, even unto death.

a reply to: buckstopper

Choices are black and white.

I see the Liberty brought up often, more so in anti-Semitic posts.

Not saying you are but WTF.

An ally had 1400 people slaughtered.

You want to piss and moan about the USS Liberty?

Knock yourself out.

I still say destroy hamas, pave the #ing place and make it a parking lot.

Put in a giant ass mall.

originally posted by: Joneselius
I stand with the Lord Jesus Christ. Condemning the violence on both sides, and hoping for the repentance of this ancient fued.

No one with a conscience can see children hurt and not see adject evil in that. The same for the elderly and the infirm.

This is a tragedy on mankind and it's ALL caused by our unwillingness to accept the one who brings peace, Jesus Christ.

No one will move me from this position, even unto death.

This is the kind of post I may disagree with but will star and respect because it comes from somewhere sincere.

You want to talk about a holocaust?

What about the elderly disabled and other undesirables losing access to shelter here in America because of some concept called market value.

America first.

This war is distracting people from what's happening here at home.

You know who else got rid of these classes first?

Yep.

This newscycle is pure propaganda.

No one is coming to help America.

We will simply disappear and no one will even notice.

originally posted by: Degradation33

Personal reasons make this death hill a palatable destination. Plus, I'm not too nationalistic or isolationist to see Israel on a short list of INDISPENSABLE allies to The USA, which includes military aid. We can spend 731 billion annually (above board) on ourselves, so what's 2.7 billion on a good, strategically important, friend?

One of the issues is people take everything that Hamas says as the gospel truth. There is no questioning just true acceptance that anything that comes out of their mouths is reality. How many of the refugees has Hamas killed? No one even questions that, like the refugee truck that was blown up with 70 women and children on it as they tried to leave for the sanctuary area. Let's not think about Hamas killing people just to use as propaganda. There are like 100s of stories about Hamas and what they are doing but people don't want to listen to those, but when Hamas says Israel has killed 5000 babies people scream war crimes with no clue to any of it.

I just want to tell people to STFU they are not there...

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: buckstopper

Choices are black and white.

I see the Liberty brought up often, more so in anti-Semitic posts.

Not saying you are but WTF.

An ally had 1400 people slaughtered.

You want to piss and moan about the USS Liberty?

Knock yourself out.

I still say destroy hamas, pave the #ing place and make it a parking lot.

Put in a giant ass mall.

And the same ally slaughtered over 10,000 innocent civilians...

You need much better arguments than the ones you're making

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Degradation33

Personal reasons make this death hill a palatable destination. Plus, I'm not too nationalistic or isolationist to see Israel on a short list of INDISPENSABLE allies to The USA, which includes military aid. We can spend 731 billion annually (above board) on ourselves, so what's 2.7 billion on a good, strategically important, friend?

One of the issues is people take everything that Hamas says as the gospel truth. There is no questioning just true acceptance that anything that comes out of their mouths is reality. How many of the refugees has Hamas killed? No one even questions that, like the refugee truck that was blown up with 70 women and children on it as they tried to leave for the sanctuary area. Let's not think about Hamas killing people just to use as propaganda. There are like 100s of stories about Hamas and what they are doing but people don't want to listen to those, but when Hamas says Israel has killed 5000 babies people scream war crimes with no clue to any of it.

I just want to tell people to STFU they are not there...

I think the opposite has happened.
People in these threads were referencing the Israeli Government and the IDF as credible and reliable sources when in reality they emit propaganda on a 24/7 basis.

A few days ago the IDF and some Israeli Politicians were arguing that there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Since then they have made a series of claims and statements by inciting genocide and arguing that Gaza should be flattened and wiped out of the map.

a reply to: Leviathan4

As opposed to what?

Hamas that lied about the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital being hit by an Israeli air strike when it was a Palestinian misfire rocket. And lied about 500 deaths where it was more around 100. Still tragic. But tries to pin their mess up on and exaggerated numbers on Israel. Like all their hundreds of rocket misfires that kill civilians in Gaza and gets blamed on Israel.

Or how about the lie an Israeli air strike took out 70 people in a convey leaving Gaza? With no evidence of an air strike and all indications booby trapped by Hamas. Then Hamas lies and tries to pin those deaths on Israel.

Is it false there is verifiable video of Hamas firing on civilians trying to leave Nasr Pediatric Hospital?


Or
Rocket launcher fired at Israeli forces from Gaza hospital, IDF claims



We know that Hamas lies about how many of their terrorist are killed and falsely counts them as civilian noncombatants.

So which is it.

Hamas lies about the number of their terrorists killed? And the number of civilian deaths?

Or cowers behind human shields.