A hill to die on

a reply to: network dude

And yes, I am fully aware neither you, nor the monkey has the stones to answer the incredibly difficult quesiton of "what should Israel have done?", perhaps you can at the very least, think on that quietly in your head, as you make your "from the river to the sea" signs.

The both of us have answered you

It's you that's having a hard time with all this. That's completely understandable

Posturing isn't an argument

It isn't anything

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude

I'd prefer you prove something to me, like that I'm wrong and you do have a little integrity left like I used to think you had.

Face saving?

I gave you a reply that you didn't want to deal with. Go back to that one and try again if you're serious

I don't think you are

It seems that some people are unwilling to accept the reality of war which is very ugly. The truth is that Israel has killed thousands of innocent civilians. And many are going to die or have died under the rubble. We may never know the exact number but it's known already that this is not an act of self defense but an act of revenge.

what war have you seen? War is horrific and pointless.

What do you think HAMAS had in mind when they slaughtered 1400 Israli civilians?

That's a question to both you and the monkey.

This has never been what we could describe as an equal sided war - give me a break.

Anti-war protesters and politicians and others are calling this 'genocide' and the number of people murdered are 'unprecedented'. This isn't war this is systematic mass murder by drone, carpet bombing as phrased by Colonel Douglas Macgregor, tank...high tech onslaught against Hamas' homemade artillery and guess what? Hamas is holding them back. If Hamas holds them back much longer while Israel and Hezbollah ramp up their bombing radii this will escalate into a regional war with complicit U.S. having no choice but to join in and Colonel Macgregor says the U.S. is not ready or prepared to fight this kind of war.

Why did Hamas attack civilians because it's always been a tit for tat conflict between the two where both sides always are forced to kill civilians. Who is continuing to kill civilians, Israel or Hamas?

Who is the real monkey Network Dude?

Fist off, DERP, the monkey thing is refering to the member's avitar and nothing else. Get over your tiny brained self.

Secondly, HAMAS attacked Israel. First. Israel wasn't killing civilians in GAZA on October 6th. Why did HAMAS attack and kill 1400 innocents with such brutality and disgusting rage? Did they think there would be no repercussions?

My God, for this to be a community of smart folk, there are some non thinkers among us, you being one.

If HAMAS didn't want a war, perhaps the attack was a poor idea?

Or

Since Iran wanted to end the Abraham Accord talks, they planned and financed the attack, knowing this would be the end result, and it's working wonderfully.

Until you can tell us all what should have been done, STFU.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Leviathan4

If the IDF gave you numbers, would you believe it?

This is a war of propoganda long before it's a war with conventional means. You are doing your part for the war effort, spreading lies and saying stupid things, so KUDOS for all that. I'm sure "they" are proud of you.

But here, at this place, you don't have blind opposition. Folks round here can think, and be informed. So while spreading your manure around, keep in mind that you are a joke, and not a funny one. Tell better lies, or even better, stop lying.

The IDF hasn't given any indication of how many from the Hamas have been killed. All we know is that they carpet bombing entire areas and they have killed innocent civilians in their tens of thousands committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

The IDF won't even release the number of their own dead soldiers and do you know why? because there are large numbers that will scare and maybe wake up the Israeli population that those in power are not effective and maybe they don't know what they are doing.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude

And yes, I am fully aware neither you, nor the monkey has the stones to answer the incredibly difficult quesiton of "what should Israel have done?", perhaps you can at the very least, think on that quietly in your head, as you make your "from the river to the sea" signs.

The both of us have answered you

It's you that's having a hard time with all this. That's completely understandable

Posturing isn't an argument

It isn't anything

quote where you answered what should have been done by Israel. I'll apologize to everyone here if you can. If not, ...

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Leviathan4

do you know what "carpet bombing" is? I doubt it. Sounds cool and edgy, but when you understand what's actually happeneing, it makes much more sense.

And how many of the 250 deaths per day are HAMAS?

And for the coup de gras, what should Israel have done after they were attacked on October 7th? Seeing as how you won't be able to answer that, you can scamper off now.

The 250 are civilians. Divide the 10,000 (at least) civilians killed by 40 days and this is what you get. They may get something extra with their bombings but it's obvious they kill civilians mostly.

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

It's already been proven that over half the civilians who put Hamas in power support Hamas which moves the civilian population from innocent to guilty co conspirators of Hamas, so your are a false equivalency.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: quintessentone

53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

There is no proof and no evidence for what you're saying. Nothing more than cheap online propaganda and support for the mass killings of innocent civilians, many of who are children and women.

As I said earlier

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

You need to come to terms with reality.

nope half or more of that 250 either support or put Hamas into power, that means they are not innocent even the women and children. You can cry about it all you want but the fact is they aren't innocent they helped.

Wow so children put Hamas into power did they? Your post is nonsense but that bit is really something else..

a reply to: quintessentone

The IDF won't even release the number of their own dead soldiers and do you know why? because there are large numbers that will scare and maybe wake up the Israeli population that those in power are not effective and maybe they don't know what they are doing.

True

Netanyahu is soon to be nothing more than an ugly name that will only be remembered as a disgraceful part of history

originally posted by: AllisVibration

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Leviathan4

do you know what "carpet bombing" is? I doubt it. Sounds cool and edgy, but when you understand what's actually happeneing, it makes much more sense.

And how many of the 250 deaths per day are HAMAS?

And for the coup de gras, what should Israel have done after they were attacked on October 7th? Seeing as how you won't be able to answer that, you can scamper off now.

The 250 are civilians. Divide the 10,000 (at least) civilians killed by 40 days and this is what you get. They may get something extra with their bombings but it's obvious they kill civilians mostly.

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

It's already been proven that over half the civilians who put Hamas in power support Hamas which moves the civilian population from innocent to guilty co conspirators of Hamas, so your are a false equivalency.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: quintessentone

53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

There is no proof and no evidence for what you're saying. Nothing more than cheap online propaganda and support for the mass killings of innocent civilians, many of who are children and women.

As I said earlier

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

You need to come to terms with reality.

nope half or more of that 250 either support or put Hamas into power, that means they are not innocent even the women and children. You can cry about it all you want but the fact is they aren't innocent they helped.

Wow so children put Hamas into power did they? Your post is nonsense but that bit is really something else..

Yes children are used as willing participants by organizations like Hamas to help put them into power. Don't act like you don't know. You are helping Hamas right now, that also puts you on the terrorist list.

a reply to: network dude

No.

You're not serious after all

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: network dude

And yes, I am fully aware neither you, nor the monkey has the stones to answer the incredibly difficult quesiton of "what should Israel have done?", perhaps you can at the very least, think on that quietly in your head, as you make your "from the river to the sea" signs.

The both of us have answered you

It's you that's having a hard time with all this. That's completely understandable

Posturing isn't an argument

It isn't anything

Just so you know, lying is irritating. But when you do it with that Smug ass attitude, it makes me think of you as a turd with leggs. And in your case, a monkey face.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

The IDF won't even release the number of their own dead soldiers and do you know why? because there are large numbers that will scare and maybe wake up the Israeli population that those in power are not effective and maybe they don't know what they are doing.

True

Netanyahu is soon to be nothing more than an ugly name that will only be remembered as a disgraceful part of history

There is still the problem of U.S. and others puppeting at the feet of these types of psychotic self-imposed demi-Gods all for the sake of oil/gas and to make a buck.

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: AllisVibration

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SomeStupidName

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Leviathan4

do you know what "carpet bombing" is? I doubt it. Sounds cool and edgy, but when you understand what's actually happeneing, it makes much more sense.

And how many of the 250 deaths per day are HAMAS?

And for the coup de gras, what should Israel have done after they were attacked on October 7th? Seeing as how you won't be able to answer that, you can scamper off now.

The 250 are civilians. Divide the 10,000 (at least) civilians killed by 40 days and this is what you get. They may get something extra with their bombings but it's obvious they kill civilians mostly.

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

It's already been proven that over half the civilians who put Hamas in power support Hamas which moves the civilian population from innocent to guilty co conspirators of Hamas, so your are a false equivalency.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: quintessentone

53% in polling show support for Hamas, mostly in Gaza.

coopwb.in...

A more local accurate statistical analysis shows 44% over all support Hamas in both Gaza and the West Bank.

www.pcpsr.org...

At the end of the day there is a huge support among the Palestinian population, and course neighboring nations for Hamas.

There is no proof and no evidence for what you're saying. Nothing more than cheap online propaganda and support for the mass killings of innocent civilians, many of who are children and women.

As I said earlier

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

You need to come to terms with reality.

nope half or more of that 250 either support or put Hamas into power, that means they are not innocent even the women and children. You can cry about it all you want but the fact is they aren't innocent they helped.

Wow so children put Hamas into power did they? Your post is nonsense but that bit is really something else..

Yes children are used as willing participants by organizations like Hamas to help put them into power. Don't act like you don't know. You are helping Hamas right now, that also puts you on the terrorist list.

Children are willing participants?
I’m on a terrorist list for suggesting children are innocent and didn’t put Hamas in power?

I don’t know wether to laugh or cry at such idiocy!

a reply to: quintessentone

You aren't wrong. I'd like to think something good can come out of all this

Right now I'm having forest for the trees issues

There's so much blame to go around. Too much. So, we end up where we are now - with wannabe poser tough guys, right wing Jesus freaks and weasels making excuses for a blood bath with: politics

Anyway...

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

this is the problem here. Everyone had an opinion on what NOT to do, but nobody seems to have an answer on what SHOULD have been done.

You are ignoring many posts in here for you to repeat this over and over on the same page.

Edit2Add™

"What not to do and continue to do right now this very moment?" is a very different question than "what SHOULD Israel have done initially in response to the attacks over a month ago?"

Anyway, what Israel should do:

Offer ceasefire(this is doing something)
and
Stop killing civilians(this is also doing something)

There is still the problem of U.S. and others puppeting at the feet of these types of psychotic self-imposed demi-Gods all for the sake of oil/gas and to make a buck.

a reply to: quintessentone


I dont demonise the oil and gas industry. So where is that carburerator that will get you 200 miles per gallon. Its all media crap.
Before crude oil it was whale oil, coal and candles. The forests were defolated and many sea fish were wiped out.

Are / have your invested in Electric Vehicles to help in this endevor? Heres a link

Electric Vehicle Magazine

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I gave him a reply

It's there for you to read as well. I dont owe anyone a performance

If you want to read what I've said and then have a meaningful conversation about that, I'm totally up for it

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I believe I just read your post wrong. Let me know for sure

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

The IDF won't even release the number of their own dead soldiers and do you know why? because there are large numbers that will scare and maybe wake up the Israeli population that those in power are not effective and maybe they don't know what they are doing.

True

Netanyahu is soon to be nothing more than an ugly name that will only be remembered as a disgraceful part of history

So true 👍. He's going to get his people genocided, if he doesn't completely destroy HAMAS.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I gave him a reply

It's there for you to read as well. I dont owe anyone a performance

If you want to read what I've said and then have a meaningful conversation about that, I'm totally up for it

I saw that glimmer of sensible logic and compassion you posted shining in this dark pile of pages.

Respectfully, you may have misinterpreted what I said, and to whom it was directed.

I absolutely agree that there is enough blame to go around that, if we really knew the truth of the decision-making processes and the people who made them, the world can know the identity of all the pots that are calling the terrorist kettle "black."

originally posted by: Waterglass


So where is that carburerator that will get you 200 miles per gallon.

On a 50 cc engine 🤣

a reply to: Lazy88

Putt putt putt.