A hill to die on

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

The IDF won't even release the number of their own dead soldiers and do you know why? because there are large numbers that will scare and maybe wake up the Israeli population that those in power are not effective and maybe they don't know what they are doing.

True

Netanyahu is soon to be nothing more than an ugly name that will only be remembered as a disgraceful part of history

So true 👍. He's going to get his people genocided, if he doesn't completely destroy HAMAS.

He's going to cause what you said, by drawing in more terrorists with the bombardment of GAZA.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Beautiful reply

Tempers make it harder to see what's what sometimes. That goes for me too 😉

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

You aren't wrong. I'd like to think something good can come out of all this

Right now I'm having forest for the trees issues

There's so much blame to go around. Too much. So, we end up where we are now - with wannabe poser tough guys, right wing Jesus freaks and weasels making excuses for a blood bath with: politics

Anyway...

Don't forget the Christian Evangelists that want armageddon so they will be saved while everyone else will burn in hell and the gutless and ineffective politicians who cater to them for their money and votes. Who are the terrorists again?

a reply to: quintessentone

Yes

Fantasists have blood on their hands too

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

You aren't wrong. I'd like to think something good can come out of all this

Right now I'm having forest for the trees issues

There's so much blame to go around. Too much. So, we end up where we are now - with wannabe poser tough guys, right wing Jesus freaks and weasels making excuses for a blood bath with: politics

Anyway...

Don't forget the Christian Evangelists that want armageddon so they will be saved while everyone else will burn in hell and the gutless and ineffective politicians who cater to them for their money and votes. Who are the terrorists again?

I have made reference to them and their bizarre beliefs. They do seem to like disaster and the end of days scenario.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Beautiful reply

Tempers make it harder to see what's what sometimes. That goes for me too 😉

I made that same mistake yesterday.

I reminds me of the COINTELPRO techniques outlined in the Dissecting Disinformation sticky thread.

Topic dilution, post sliding, anger trolling, and consensus cracking all on just page 11.

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

The IDF won't even release the number of their own dead soldiers and do you know why? because there are large numbers that will scare and maybe wake up the Israeli population that those in power are not effective and maybe they don't know what they are doing.

True

Netanyahu is soon to be nothing more than an ugly name that will only be remembered as a disgraceful part of history

So true 👍. He's going to get his people genocided, if he doesn't completely destroy HAMAS.

Hamas doesn't have any power to cause a genocide in Israel. You know what you're saying isn't true but an attempt at populism and to cause a reaction.

Israel is attacking and killing people at a rate of 250 civilians per day and it's unknown whether they get anyone from Hamas. So it's clear what is going on at least to those who don't unequivocally support Israel.

When you kill 250 civilians per day that's not collateral damage as someone said earlier but mass murder.

There are at least 10,000 dead civilians and many more who missing and are underneath the rubble.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

You aren't wrong. I'd like to think something good can come out of all this

Right now I'm having forest for the trees issues

There's so much blame to go around. Too much. So, we end up where we are now - with wannabe poser tough guys, right wing Jesus freaks and weasels making excuses for a blood bath with: politics

Anyway...

Don't forget the Christian Evangelists that want armageddon so they will be saved while everyone else will burn in hell and the gutless and ineffective politicians who cater to them for their money and votes. Who are the terrorists again?

Christians are terrorists now?

Are you willing to die on that hill?

See? I can do that too. Now can I join ATS?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Well, this place Right?

I, for some weird reason - still think all the arguing is worth something

After a while though, it grinds your spirit into nothing. So we takes a break

🙂

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

You aren't wrong. I'd like to think something good can come out of all this

Right now I'm having forest for the trees issues

There's so much blame to go around. Too much. So, we end up where we are now - with wannabe poser tough guys, right wing Jesus freaks and weasels making excuses for a blood bath with: politics

Anyway...

Don't forget the Christian Evangelists that want armageddon so they will be saved while everyone else will burn in hell and the gutless and ineffective politicians who cater to them for their money and votes. Who are the terrorists again?

Christians are terrorists now?

Are you willing to die on that hill?

See? I can do that too. Now can I join ATS?

Do you really want to join ATS now knowing what you know?

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Well, this place Right?

I, for some weird reason - still think all the arguing is worth something

After a while though, it grinds your spirit into nothing. So we takes a break

🙂

Yes! The legitimate arguments from any member is absolutely worthwhile.

Only one side seems to be either unable to pose a logical argument, or openly refusing to participate past their one opinion post.

Just getting caught up, looks like many have chosen a hill to die on.

And that’s fine.

You should own what you say.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

You aren't wrong. I'd like to think something good can come out of all this

Right now I'm having forest for the trees issues

There's so much blame to go around. Too much. So, we end up where we are now - with wannabe poser tough guys, right wing Jesus freaks and weasels making excuses for a blood bath with: politics

Anyway...

Don't forget the Christian Evangelists that want armageddon so they will be saved while everyone else will burn in hell and the gutless and ineffective politicians who cater to them for their money and votes. Who are the terrorists again?

Christians are terrorists now?

Are you willing to die on that hill?

See? I can do that too. Now can I join ATS?

Do you really want to join ATS now knowing what you know?

Well...

You're still trying, aren't you?

:beerbump: :kneedumming: :highfive: :weeksofprecisionguidedbombardment:

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Just getting caught up, looks like many have chosen a hill to die on.

And that’s fine.

You should own what you say.

Yes, you should own what you say, too.

I would very much like your [logical] input on anything you might disagree with.

It's only fair that you may exercise your privilege here on ATS to do so, especially when so many other members share their disagreements with you.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I have my opinion in the OP, did you miss it?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

Only one side seems to be either unable to pose a logical argument, or openly refusing to participate past their one opinion post.

Believe it or not I see the denial as something valuable. It takes more time than I'd like, but it shows there's something cooking that leads to meaningful change

Sometimes. Sometimes people just need to protect their sense of self to the point where they're nearly delusional

Then innocent people get hurt

I'm outta here for now. Will be interesting to see where this discussion goes

a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you condemn the war crimes committed by Israel? Or it's only Hamas you condemn?

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: quintessentone

You aren't wrong. I'd like to think something good can come out of all this

Right now I'm having forest for the trees issues

There's so much blame to go around. Too much. So, we end up where we are now - with wannabe poser tough guys, right wing Jesus freaks and weasels making excuses for a blood bath with: politics

Anyway...

Don't forget the Christian Evangelists that want armageddon so they will be saved while everyone else will burn in hell and the gutless and ineffective politicians who cater to them for their money and votes. Who are the terrorists again?

Christians are terrorists now?

Are you willing to die on that hill?

See? I can do that too. Now can I join ATS?

Do you really want to join ATS now knowing what you know?

Well...

You're still trying, aren't you?

:beerbump: :kneedumming: :highfive: :weeksofprecisionguidedbombardment:

I've given up with some members here, what's that old saying? "If you beat your head against a wall it will be your head that breaks, not the wall" or "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference".

I prefer debate/discussions not arguing so I will ignore members when they start on this path, call me what you want, I am for discussion not arguing.

"Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge because you will find out that the first storyteller has always modified their story for their benefit and that they didn't do their due diligence in researching the facts" (my modification to an existing quote)

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: DBCowboy

Do you condemn the war crimes committed by Israel? Or it's only Hamas you condemn?

Easy, the palestinians

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I have my opinion in the OP, did you miss it?

He/she is asking you for your input, rebuttal and expansion on everyone else's opinion that disagrees with yours. Not the same thing as referring to your opinion. It's called discussion.