If you support the call for Israel to offer ceasefire, then you support Hamas.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor


Your argument still presupposes I want Hamas to continue its occupation of Gaza, whereas, I have never heard anyone say such a thing, not even myself.

Liar.

So you DO want the elimination of hamas.

Yes or no.

I will not answer your question until you prove that I am a liar with my own quote.

Otherwise, you are slandering me.

That's all that poster can do is to slander, name call and deflect because of the inability to properly discuss/debate this topic.

Nope.

I cut through the lies, double-speak, hypocrisy.

It's a hobby of mine.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Walpurgisnacht

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Jhayesdvm
a reply to: quintessentone

Have you lobbed any rockets at Hispanic immigrant children yet today? Because that's litterally how this all started. Please cite a source that suggests Israel started killing Arab children upon their arrival. I'll wait.

The Palestinian people being forced to live in an open air prison or also known as a concentration camp for 50 years is how this all started.

Why haven't the Palestinians ousted their governing authority yet? Like my post above states, they've had since 2005 to oust an internationally recognized terrorist organization with the clear aim of cleansing Israel down to the last bushel. Surely they are not the proper representatives for the region.

The Palestinian people are an occupied people and Hamas emerged to fight for their freedom from occupation which Hamas say they have a legal right to do.

*record screech*

....a...are you simping for Hamas? Is that what I'm reading right now? They have the legal right to fight on behalf of the besieged population by..using that population as bait? By putting them in direct fire with the IDF? By... using their hospitals and civilian hubs as staging areas for ammunition caches and offensive combat actions? THAT legal right? You sound goofy. I.mean real goofy.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor
If I am a Hamas supporter because I support ceasefire, and everyone else supporting a ceasefire is a hamas supporter, does that mean we are responsible for what Hamas is doing, just for calling for ceasefire?

Yes it makes you accessories to their crimes, but wait you are going to ask if that same rule applies to the Israeli's. Nope they get a pass. Maybe you haven't noticed but there is clearly 2 tiers of justice going on, it is what is.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor


Your argument still presupposes I want Hamas to continue its occupation of Gaza, whereas, I have never heard anyone say such a thing, not even myself.

Liar.

So you DO want the elimination of hamas.

Yes or no.

I will not answer your question until you prove that I am a liar with my own quote.

Otherwise, you are slandering me.

That's all that poster can do is to slander, name call and deflect because of the inability to properly discuss/debate this topic.

Nope.

I cut through the lies, double-speak, hypocrisy.

It's a hobby of mine.

Thanks for my belly laugh for today.

The true state of Israel.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

One could just as easily say that, "If you support Israel, you support genocide."

Yes, one could absolutely just as easily say that and commit the exact same logical fallacy. I haven't heard anyone say this quote nor admitting to support Hamas.

Everyone talks about Israel cease-firing. No one talks about the palestinians who still have hostages, who are still bombing Israel.

I have, I am someone, so this isn't true out the door.

No one talks about palestinians surrendering and stopping the war.

Makes me scratch my head in confusion.

I can see why that confuses you. Its because Israel is at war with the terrorist organization HAMAS. Israel is not at war with Palestine.

a reply to: quintessentone

I can't do that. I have too many myopic and bias views to totally deny ignorance, or claim as much.

For me, the phrase "from the river to the sea..." is contextually a vitriolic Muslim battle cry for the eradication of a sovereign Jewish state, which is why it triggers a response.

Some things never change, I guess.



Enjoy the jackboots.

originally posted by: quintessentone

The true state of Israel.

You have an agenda. We get it. It's a rather comically stupid one, but nonetheless you have one.

Hamas wants to get the support of the international community by using civilians.

This isn't the first time they've done this. They placed rocket launching sites next to the United Nations, Nursery, Mosque and School Buildings hoping the IDF airstrikes would bombard these structures in order to garnish more support for their 'cause'. There's overlays of this exact thing out there if you care to look. Its a common tactic of these cowards.

We can just be thankful that this goofy terror org hasn't damaged the Abraham Accords one bit. The Palestinians need better representatives. Representatives that will not risk killing their own people for an international hug-me-please session.

Goofy.

originally posted by: Jhayesdvm
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I'd ask you what specifically makes you support a ceasefire and what you think that will accomplish. If you cite some made-up numbers that Hamas fed you, and don't believe that Hamas will kill more Israeli children next time they have the opportunity, then I'd call you an idiot.

Everyone who supports a ceasefires believe it will accomplish two things:

1: combat stops

2: leaders talk

There was a ceasefire, and dirty Arabs started decapitation babies out of nowhere. If you'd like to go over there and tell them they shouldn't do that, I'll buy your ticket.

Arab is a very general term and your comment sounds racist because it sounds like being an Arab means being predisposed to the thing you describe during a ceasefire.

you are starting to grow on me a reply to: quintessentone

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
Can anyone imagine if Cornell West was ever confirmed Secretary of State?

Can you please elaborate on the point you are making?

Like the phrase "From the river to the sea" is a contextual and vitriolic Muslim battle cry for the eradication of a sovereign Jewish state.

Huh?

Oh, I get it, this is like the "OK" symbol that took on the racist meaning. It was originally a descriptive statement, then used here and there by groups all over the place since the 60's, Jews included, but has since miraculously taken on a genocidal, antisemitic meaning, because reasons.

Just trying to keep up to date on everything.

OK, back to the regularly scheduled poo-slinging.

originally posted by: dothedew
Welcome friends, and I'm sure I speak for one or two people in saying - "Thank you, for proving the OP correct."

It's just..... a thing of beauty, really.

Man, I'm glad I get to read along with all of the craziness.

Indeed it has, though I'm not celebrating.

Fallacies are an affront to truth.

originally posted by: BiothermalReactor

originally posted by: Jhayesdvm
a reply to: BiothermalReactor

I'd ask you what specifically makes you support a ceasefire and what you think that will accomplish. If you cite some made-up numbers that Hamas fed you, and don't believe that Hamas will kill more Israeli children next time they have the opportunity, then I'd call you an idiot.

Everyone who supports a ceasefires believe it will accomplish two things:

1: combat stops

2: leaders talk

There was a ceasefire, and dirty Arabs started decapitation babies out of nowhere. If you'd like to go over there and tell them they shouldn't do that, I'll buy your ticket.

Arab is a very general term and your comment sounds racist because it sounds like being an Arab means being predisposed to the thing you describe during a ceasefire.

What leaders talk? Which ones? Are you talking about Hamas leaders in Qatar? Do you think the billionaire Hamas leaders in Qatar gaf about "peace talks"? Seriously?

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

So, yes, you are clueless. The Palestinian "leaders" you speak of are literally terrorists who want to eradicate the entirety of the Jewish population. You know, actual genocide. So, no, a ceasefire will not lead to either of those things. What on earth makes you think it will?

originally posted by: quintessentone

I agree but a ceasefire will never be ordered because Netanyahu wants all Palestinians out of Gaza, then next comes the ethnic cleaning (genocide again?) of the West Bank, then on to Lebanon?. The U.S. is already offering Egypt financial aid to take the Palestinians living in tents at their borders and those marching from North to South Gaza. This is the endgame there will be no stopping Netanyahu's biblical war he says is sanctioned by God.

We have to give both sides a chance. Netanyahu is not the people of Israel and I believe there are enough brave compassionate Israelis to continue to find a peaceful solution that does not involve killing all of Gaza.

a reply to: BiothermalReactor

How can you want a cease-fire AND the elimination of hamas?

a reply to: dothedew

Well, that, and they've specifically stated that they won't rest until they've killed them all. But you probably didn't see that Tik Tok huh?