New 'Orwellian' HHS pronoun mandate forces employees to 'deny reality,' violate law

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: twistedpuppy
a reply to: network dude

Live and let live. If your colleague is a dude but fancies himself a woman, I don't see a problem in addressing him as a woman. I mean where is harm in that? It's general courtesy to address him by his preferred name and a pronoun. Now, whether that guy is deluded or not is another matter. Gender-related debates fit in online forums, such as this one, nicely but I can understand an employer who doesn't want his employees to engage in pointless bickering. This is not what he's paying them for.

Sure, everyone has a right to have opinions but sometimes expressing them in the work environment disrupts the teamwork and leads to the fights between employees, especially if it gets personal. It's detrimental to the normal flow of work and often demands the intervention of management. Like it was the case with my friend who was regularly picking a fight with her Ukrainian colleagues. She thought her political opinions got the priority over getting down to work. The manager had a different perspective.

There's also this quote:

This practice also creates an inclusive work environment where all applicants and employees are treated with dignity. The isolated and inadvertent use of an incorrect name or pronoun will generally not constitute unlawful harassment, but, as the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) has explained, continued intentional use of an incorrect name or pronoun (or both) could, in certain circumstances, contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

It's clearly stated here that only continuous calling someone by the names or pronouns they don't want will be considered an offense. And I can only think of one name to call someone who regularly and deliberately offends other people. That name is ***hole.

Exactly, they only want to create an environment of welcoming and teamwork, that's what you are there for to work together as a team for specific work goals. Leave your feelz at home.

Feelz work both ways. Leave your “woke language” at home.

That's not feelz that's workplace courtesy and dignity for all, are you unable to see the difference?

Except my dignity.

I have to take time from work to pander to your feelz.

Everyone has to pander to everyone else's particular quirks at work.

No.

It’s not about dignity, it’s about control.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: twistedpuppy
a reply to: network dude

Live and let live. If your colleague is a dude but fancies himself a woman, I don't see a problem in addressing him as a woman. I mean where is harm in that? It's general courtesy to address him by his preferred name and a pronoun. Now, whether that guy is deluded or not is another matter. Gender-related debates fit in online forums, such as this one, nicely but I can understand an employer who doesn't want his employees to engage in pointless bickering. This is not what he's paying them for.

Sure, everyone has a right to have opinions but sometimes expressing them in the work environment disrupts the teamwork and leads to the fights between employees, especially if it gets personal. It's detrimental to the normal flow of work and often demands the intervention of management. Like it was the case with my friend who was regularly picking a fight with her Ukrainian colleagues. She thought her political opinions got the priority over getting down to work. The manager had a different perspective.

There's also this quote:

This practice also creates an inclusive work environment where all applicants and employees are treated with dignity. The isolated and inadvertent use of an incorrect name or pronoun will generally not constitute unlawful harassment, but, as the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) has explained, continued intentional use of an incorrect name or pronoun (or both) could, in certain circumstances, contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

It's clearly stated here that only continuous calling someone by the names or pronouns they don't want will be considered an offense. And I can only think of one name to call someone who regularly and deliberately offends other people. That name is ***hole.

Exactly, they only want to create an environment of welcoming and teamwork, that's what you are there for to work together as a team for specific work goals. Leave your feelz at home.

Feelz work both ways. Leave your “woke language” at home.

That's not feelz that's workplace courtesy and dignity for all, are you unable to see the difference?

Except my dignity.

I have to take time from work to pander to your feelz.

Everyone has to pander to everyone else's particular quirks at work.

No.

It’s not about dignity, it’s about control.

Potatoes tatertots...we will never agree.

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: DBCowboy
Everyone has to pander to everyone else's particular quirks at work.

Nope. Not everyone works at a looney bin.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: AlongCameaSpider

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: twistedpuppy
a reply to: network dude

Live and let live. If your colleague is a dude but fancies himself a woman, I don't see a problem in addressing him as a woman. I mean where is harm in that? It's general courtesy to address him by his preferred name and a pronoun. Now, whether that guy is deluded or not is another matter. Gender-related debates fit in online forums, such as this one, nicely but I can understand an employer who doesn't want his employees to engage in pointless bickering. This is not what he's paying them for.

Sure, everyone has a right to have opinions but sometimes expressing them in the work environment disrupts the teamwork and leads to the fights between employees, especially if it gets personal. It's detrimental to the normal flow of work and often demands the intervention of management. Like it was the case with my friend who was regularly picking a fight with her Ukrainian colleagues. She thought her political opinions got the priority over getting down to work. The manager had a different perspective.

There's also this quote:

This practice also creates an inclusive work environment where all applicants and employees are treated with dignity. The isolated and inadvertent use of an incorrect name or pronoun will generally not constitute unlawful harassment, but, as the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) has explained, continued intentional use of an incorrect name or pronoun (or both) could, in certain circumstances, contribute to an unlawful hostile work environment.

It's clearly stated here that only continuous calling someone by the names or pronouns they don't want will be considered an offense. And I can only think of one name to call someone who regularly and deliberately offends other people. That name is ***hole.

Exactly, they only want to create an environment of welcoming and teamwork, that's what you are there for to work together as a team for specific work goals. Leave your feelz at home.

Feelz work both ways. Leave your “woke language” at home.

That's not feelz that's workplace courtesy and dignity for all, are you unable to see the difference?

Except my dignity.

I have to take time from work to pander to your feelz.

Everyone has to pander to everyone else's particular quirks at work.

No.

It’s not about dignity, it’s about control.

No, it's all about work ... wait ... bringing your sh"t to work? Those days are gone.