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A harbinger of the coming blue wave, or the fix is in?

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posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:06 AM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

lol

Besides their fight against Mickey Mouse,
and their hatred for free speech,
trans kids,
threats to overturn the gay marriage ruling
and contraception rights
AND their plans for abortion,
There's their plan to defund the FBI,
the CIA
and the IRS.
School choice is a choice to defund the Department of Education,
"kill the Diversity/Inclusion/Equality woke" and instill a "Patriot curriculum".
Their inability to pass a budget,
their plan to shut down the government, over the budget, to make Biden look bad.
Their stupid waste of time project, looking for a reason to impeach Biden, so that he's just like Trump, impeached.
Then there is their plan to take independance from the DOJ Cabinet position, so the president can directly control the Department of Justice, and enforce more death penalties, like for pedophiles and drug dealers and political enemies.

lol

It is the left that has been censoring, it is the left that wants to empower federal government and remove rights, controls, and freedoms from individuals.

It is the left going after children. All we say is leave our kids alone, but nope, you can't have that.

As for defunding federal agencies? Yes.

We don't really care about gays, why is the left all hung up on sex and gays, and penises and stuff?



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:11 AM
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Highlighting this:


lol

It is the left that has been censoring, it is the left that wants to empower federal government and remove rights, controls, and freedoms from individuals.

It is the left going after children. All we say is leave our kids alone, but nope, you can't have that.




originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sookiechacha

lol

Besides their fight against Mickey Mouse,
and their hatred for free speech,
trans kids,
threats to overturn the gay marriage ruling
and contraception rights
AND their plans for abortion,
There's their plan to defund the FBI,
the CIA
and the IRS.
School choice is a choice to defund the Department of Education,
"kill the Diversity/Inclusion/Equality woke" and instill a "Patriot curriculum".
Their inability to pass a budget,
their plan to shut down the government, over the budget, to make Biden look bad.
Their stupid waste of time project, looking for a reason to impeach Biden, so that he's just like Trump, impeached.
Then there is their plan to take independance from the DOJ Cabinet position, so the president can directly control the Department of Justice, and enforce more death penalties, like for pedophiles and drug dealers and political enemies.

lol

It is the left that has been censoring, it is the left that wants to empower federal government and remove rights, controls, and freedoms from individuals.

It is the left going after children. All we say is leave our kids alone, but nope, you can't have that.

As for defunding federal agencies? Yes.

We don't really care about gays, why is the left all hung up on sex and gays, and penises and stuff?




posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




We don't really care about gays, why is the left all hung up on sex and gays, and penises and stuff?


Really? Your brand-spankin newly elected Speaker of House says something different.



As for defunding federal agencies? Yes.


LOL Good luck with that. LOL
Also, good luck with the Senate passing that bill to cut the head of The Department of Defense and the head of The Department of Transportaion salary down to $1.

Good luck with that MAGA chip on your shoulder.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm


Let's start with mandatory DNA testing to verify paternity.
This as a standard before anything related to child support is ever granted.
Abortion should not be a form of contraception.

I personally believe late term abortions should not be allowed at all unless it can be done up to 18 years of age when they become legal adults.
The parents should be able to hold this power.
Both birth parents required for consensus. Some old testament legalities make sense in today's narcissistic upside down justifications.
If we are going to accept abortions as "rights" then let's go full Monty.
Abortions allowed up to 18 years of age



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy




We don't really care about gays, why is the left all hung up on sex and gays, and penises and stuff?


Really? Your brand-spankin newly elected Speaker of House says something different.



As for defunding federal agencies? Yes.


LOL Good luck with that. LOL
Also, good luck with the Senate passing that bill to cut the head of The Department of Defense and the head of The Department of Transportaion salary down to $1.

Good luck with that MAGA chip on your shoulder.


I'm not going to apologize for wanting America to be a great nation.

You leftists make it seem like a slur, but it's actually a complement that even you realize that I want to make America great for everyone and you can't stand that.

lol



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

As I told Threadbare previously in the thread, a lot of us warned that abortion would be the republican party's undoing. I am pro-choice with caveats, so I was among them.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: JAGStorm


Let's start with mandatory DNA testing to verify paternity.
This as a standard before anything related to child support is ever granted.
Abortion should not be a form of contraception.

I personally believe late term abortions should not be allowed at all unless it can be done up to 18 years of age when they become legal adults.
The parents should be able to hold this power.
Both birth parents required for consensus. Some old testament legalities make sense in today's narcissistic upside down justifications.
If we are going to accept abortions as "rights" then let's go full Monty.
Abortions allowed up to 18 years of age


This is precisely the problem. Your beliefs make you not believe in abortion as contraception.
Someone else has another belief and they don’t believe there is a personhood and therefore OK to
Abort up to a certain point. I think most middle ground people will say 16 weeks or such.

Also if you don’t believe in abortion, don’t have one.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: JAGStorm

As I told Threadbare previously in the thread, a lot of us warned that abortion would be the republican party's undoing. I am pro-choice with caveats, so I was among them.



It is all a distraction. Abortions are down, teen pregnancy is way way down. In a decade they are going to be begging everyone to get pregnant due to concerns over population decline, unless illegals start popping out ten kids a decade.

You and I both realize this is a really bizarre social issue that shouldn’t even be at the forefront.
How about we talk about our deficit, our infrastructure, our military readiness, our aging population and all the issues that come with that, our housing crise..
Of course not, because those are actual issues that will affect all of us.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:26 AM
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Abortion is now a state issue. It should be. I am not surprised by this by any means. It is also not an indicator of how things are going to go. It is easy to convince a state than a nation on certain issues.

I see no blue wave or red wave. Look at local elections and mayor races. Are they flipping? State House Races. VA is now Blue but what about the other states with elections? Did they all flip?

Abortion will not be a big ticket item in 2024. War and Economy will be.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Some have beliefs that all Jews should be killed.

Should we respect those beliefs because they believe in them?

Or should we stand on principle and say that this is wrong.
edit on 8-11-2023 by DBCowboy because: Boomer



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

JAG, Ive seen the American culture and for lack of a better term 'morality' degrade over my time here on the planet, since just before abortion became widely legal.

I believe it's been the primary cause of the disintegration of the American family. Which is the primary cause of all our woes. IMHO

Abortion has liberated MEN as much as women. I often see men as the most vocal advocate for abortion up until birth. They get very emotional for having no skin in the game, and I'm sick of empathy for others being the excuse to act hateful. Because they DO have skin in the game, if you want to call the appendage that. And $$$ in child support.

Its nice to have penalty free sex, tho. And that also seems to have been to our group detriment in the way of deadly venereal disease.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm

Some have beliefs that all Jews should be killed.

Should we respect those beliefs because they believe in them?

Or should we stand on principle and say that this is wrong.


Again, we can argue this all day, when is a person a person? At conception, at heartbeat,
At survival outside the womb?

Is it wrong? Or is it wrong to tell a woman to have a child she absolutely does not want?

See in the animal world an animal would have the baby and they would be killed or abandoned.
Something else I’ve wondered. The rate of SIDS went down as the rate of abortion went up… mere coincidence?



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:37 AM
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Abortion has liberated MEN as much as women. I often see men as the most vocal advocate for abortion up until birth. They get very emotional for having no skin in the game, and I'm sick of empathy for others being the excuse to act hateful. Because they DO have skin in the game, if you want to call the appendage that. And $$$ in child support.


SING it brother! (Or sister not sure which you are)

edit on 8-11-2023 by JAGStorm because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:39 AM
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It is a behaviour and an action that creates the child.

It does not happen spontaneously.

You are conflating a behaviour with a condition that the woman has no control over.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm

It is a behaviour and an action that creates the child.

It does not happen spontaneously.

You are conflating a behaviour with a condition that the woman has no control over.


Yes, and men have gotten off too easy for far too long. Time for them to ZIP IT or SNIP IT
(Not sure if anyone is watching Golden Bachelor, but that SNIP IT SNIP SNIP IT had me dying!)



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAGStorm

It is a behaviour and an action that creates the child.

It does not happen spontaneously.

You are conflating a behaviour with a condition that the woman has no control over.


Yes, and men have gotten off too easy for far too long. Time for them to ZIP IT or SNIP IT
(Not sure if anyone is watching Golden Bachelor, but that SNIP IT SNIP SNIP IT had me dying!)


And the gals should just say "No".


Now before the pro-killing baby crowd starts in on rape, that's a different topic.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




And the gals should just say "No". Now before the pro-killing baby crowd starts in on rape, that's a different topic.


Lots of gals have said “NO!!” If only that worked.. if only that worked..



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: DBCowboy




And the gals should just say "No". Now before the pro-killing baby crowd starts in on rape, that's a different topic.


Lots of gals have said “NO!!” If only that worked.. if only that worked..


If you want to debate rape then go for it.

My response will just be that we are killing the child for the sins of the father.



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: JAGStorm

As I told Threadbare previously in the thread, a lot of us warned that abortion would be the republican party's undoing. I am pro-choice with caveats, so I was among them.




I warned my GOP friends that this roe v. wade cluster **** was going to remove a lot of women from the Republican voter roles.

They mocked me and laughed....who's crying now?

Now what can the GOP do to regain a political advantage? A sane, leader that can ditch the whine would be great. nvm..whine on...

And to think the GOP has no one to blame but themselves. The irony...

Another prediction....as trumps poll numbers drop, trump bails on the election just like debates.


edit on 8-11-2023 by lilzazz because: you mad bro?



posted on Nov, 8 2023 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: FarmerSimulation
a reply to: JAGStorm


Let's start with mandatory DNA testing to verify paternity.
This as a standard before anything related to child support is ever granted.
Abortion should not be a form of contraception.

I personally believe late term abortions should not be allowed at all unless it can be done up to 18 years of age when they become legal adults.
The parents should be able to hold this power.
Both birth parents required for consensus. Some old testament legalities make sense in today's narcissistic upside down justifications.
If we are going to accept abortions as "rights" then let's go full Monty.
Abortions allowed up to 18 years of age


This is precisely the problem. Your beliefs make you not believe in abortion as contraception.
Someone else has another belief and they don’t believe there is a personhood and therefore OK to
Abort up to a certain point. I think most middle ground people will say 16 weeks or such.

Also if you don’t believe in abortion, don’t have one.

I have never had an abortion and only suspect 1 girlfriend to have done to me but never admitted it.

And I am not joking about the 18 year old abortion limit.


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Leviticus 20:9 - For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.

Colossians 3:20 - Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 - If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:   (Read More...)

Exodus 21:15 - And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

Proverbs 30:17 - The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it.

Ephesians 6:1 - Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

Matthew 15:4 - For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.

Proverbs 13:24 - He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Mark 7:9-10 - And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.   (Read More...)

Exodus 21:17 - And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

Proverbs 20:20 - Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure darkness.

Hebrews 10:26 - For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

1 John 2:1-29 - My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:   (Read More...)

John 14:1 - Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

1 John 4:4 - Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Romans 13:1 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.




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