Israeli Politician calls for Gaza to be erased from the face of the Earth

a reply to: Leviathan4

Hamas operates a vast and diversified apparatus to indoctrinate children from a very young age to love jihad and devote their lives to fighting the Jews, and to seek martyrdom as the ultimate glory that is highly rewarded in Paradise. This indoctrination is complemented and amplified by parents, especially mothers, who express joy over their children's dying for jihad.

Here is a tv show for children aired last year advising children to kill Israelis. So using the argument that kids can't be a threat doesn't really work does it?

www.memri.org...

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Leviathan4

Hamas operates a vast and diversified apparatus to indoctrinate children from a very young age to love jihad and devote their lives to fighting the Jews, and to seek martyrdom as the ultimate glory that is highly rewarded in Paradise. This indoctrination is complemented and amplified by parents, especially mothers, who express joy over their children's dying for jihad.

Here is a tv show for children aired last year advising children to kill Israelis. So using the argument that kids can't be a threat doesn't really work does it?

www.memri.org...

I don't doubt this.
I meant the indoctrination of some children of a given age and above.

But similarly some Jews are indoctrinated to hate other Arabs.Here you have a classical example of an indoctrinated adult who makes some disturbing remarks i.e an Incitement to genocide.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Leviathan4

Hamas operates a vast and diversified apparatus to indoctrinate children from a very young age to love jihad and devote their lives to fighting the Jews, and to seek martyrdom as the ultimate glory that is highly rewarded in Paradise. This indoctrination is complemented and amplified by parents, especially mothers, who express joy over their children's dying for jihad.

Here is a tv show for children aired last year advising children to kill Israelis. So using the argument that kids can't be a threat doesn't really work does it?

www.memri.org...

You really had to dig deep for that propaganda.

MEMRI's work has been criticized on three grounds: that their work is biased; that they choose articles to translate selectively so as to give an unrepresentative view of the media they are reporting on; and that some of their translations are inaccurate.

en.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=MEMRI's%20work%20has%20been%20criticized,of%20their%20translations%20are%20 inaccurate.

a reply to: quintessentone

Do your saying they lied and that was not broadcast by hamas in July of last year? See you don't gave to dig very far when Hamad admits they want to exterminate the jews and drive them into the sea.

Now what does take a lot of digging is trying to make a terrorist organization into any thing other than that.l

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: quintessentone

Do your saying they lied and that was not broadcast by hamas in July of last year? See you don't gave to dig very far when Hamad admits they want to exterminate the jews and drive them into the sea.

Now what does take a lot of digging is trying to make a terrorist organization into any thing other than that.l

The only difference is that Hamas cannot exterminate the Jews even if they want it. They have very limited power, no tanks, no airplanes and no navy. Israel on the other hand does have the power to exterminate the population in Gaza and some of these ministers and officials are just as bad when they argue Gaza needs to be erased from the face of the earth.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: quintessentone

Do your saying they lied and that was not broadcast by hamas in July of last year? See you don't gave to dig very far when Hamad admits they want to exterminate the jews and drive them into the sea.

Now what does take a lot of digging is trying to make a terrorist organization into any thing other than that.l

The only difference is that Hamas cannot exterminate the Jews even if they want it. They have very limited power, no tanks, no airplanes and no navy. Israel on the other hand does have the power to exterminate the population in Gaza and some of these ministers and officials are just as bad when they argue Gaza needs to be erased from the face of the earth.

And yet. Gaza isn’t wiped off the map. And the resultant civilian deaths are not from Israel giving warnings and using Surgical strikes. But Hamas uses human shield, and never list militant deaths. Just lies, and calls them civilians.

Hospital used as Hamas underground terror HQ likely Israel's next big battle challenge

www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: Lazy88

In perception management we call this a primer, and it's preparing us for more casualties because they effectively kill civilians only, which was a predictable outcome due to the strategy they've deployed.
The entire human shield narrative is Israels human propaganda shield, a nice story to tell your kids so they don't have to see the monsters we have become.

On Monday, the Ministry of Health in Gaza reported more than 10,000 people killed — most of them women and children — in the besieged territory. In the West Bank, 155 people have been killed since Oct. 7, the health ministry says.

The death toll in Gaza surpasses 10,000 as the conflict enters a second month

a reply to: Insurrectile

Sign. No. Hamas uses humans shields.

UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields

cufi.org...

The report also confirmed something Israel’s been saying all along: Hamas stored mortars and other weapons in at least three UN schools during last summer’s war and fired rockets at Israel from two of them.

Israel repeatedly made that point during the conflict to explain why it was firing on schools (and mosques and hospitals) where Palestinians had taken refuge.

Because Hamas, desperate to win world sympathy by any means, has always been happy to use Palestinian innocents as human shields — the more casualties, the better.

The narrative that Israel is indiscriminately “bombing” civilians is a lie. They are taking out Hamas militant assets shielded with humans.


Again. Hamas “tells” its civilians to ignore Israeli warnings. Does nothing to evacuate its civilians. Does nothing to shelter its civilians. Uses hospitals and schools for military staging.

Hamas using human shields is a reality.

originally posted by: Lazy88

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: quintessentone

Do your saying they lied and that was not broadcast by hamas in July of last year? See you don't gave to dig very far when Hamad admits they want to exterminate the jews and drive them into the sea.

Now what does take a lot of digging is trying to make a terrorist organization into any thing other than that.l

The only difference is that Hamas cannot exterminate the Jews even if they want it. They have very limited power, no tanks, no airplanes and no navy. Israel on the other hand does have the power to exterminate the population in Gaza and some of these ministers and officials are just as bad when they argue Gaza needs to be erased from the face of the earth.

And yet. Gaza isn’t wiped off the map. And the resultant civilian deaths are not from Israel giving warnings and using Surgical strikes. But Hamas uses human shield, and never list militant deaths. Just lies, and calls them civilians.

Hospital used as Hamas underground terror HQ likely Israel's next big battle challenge

www.foxnews.com...

You have no evidence to claim the death toll has come from human shields when Gaza is bombed continuously from Israel. You mainly propagate Israeli State Propaganda. Nobody takes seriously the human shields argument as the bombs don't discriminate between combatants and civilians and will kill everyone. You can't use a human as a shield in these cases. And it's more likely that Hana's is hiding underneath....

a reply to: Leviathan4

Plainly, you are not understanding how Hamas is using human shields or what that actually means.

Does Hamas wear uniforms?

They hide themselves in civilian apartments, schools and hospitals.
They don't care about civilian casualties.

In fact, they want them to serve their propaganda.

They stop civilians from leaving areas the IDF has warned will be attacked.

So that those who lap up their terrorism can scream at Israel.

Well done.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

Plainly, you are not understanding how Hamas is using human shields or what that actually means.

Does Hamas wear uniforms?

They hide themselves in civilian apartments, schools and hospitals.
They don't care about civilian casualties.

In fact, they want them to serve their propaganda.

They stop civilians from leaving areas the IDF has warned will be attacked.

So that those who lap up their terrorism can scream at Israel.

Well done.

Just as I said in the person above who Keeps apologising for the crimes committed by the IDF

You also have no evidence to claim the death toll has come from human shields when Gaza is bombed continuously from Israel. You mainly propagate Israeli State Propaganda. Nobody takes seriously the human shields argument as the bombs don't discriminate between combatants and civilians and will kill everyone. You can't use a human as a shield in these cases. And it's more likely that Hamas is hiding underneath.......

a reply to: Leviathan4

More repetition?

Copy and paste?

You still don't understand the use of human shields.

A war crime, by the way.

As is taking civilian hostages.

Hiding underneath, what?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

More repetition?

Copy and paste?

You still don't understand the use of human shields.

A war crime, by the way.

As is taking civilian hostages.

Hiding underneath, what?

. Nobody takes seriously the human shields argument as the bombs don't discriminate between combatants and civilians and will kill everyone. You can't use a human as a shield in these cases.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Make sure you condemn the war crimes committed by both sides and especially the IDF as I can see you're still trying to excuse them arguing about 'human shields'

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a reply to: Leviathan4

More copy and paste repetition?

Again, hiding underneath, what?

Please post a non repetitive reply.

a reply to: Leviathan4

"especially the IDF ".

Bias confirmed.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

"especially the IDF ".

Bias confirmed.

Because you haven't condemned its actions. There is no bias from me. Only from you.

Not only you haven't condemned Israel for its war crimes but you're using human shields as an excuse for not condemning them.

a reply to: Leviathan4

War crimes need to be confirmed, by independent investigation, by independent experts, who need to be on the ground?

Remember?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Leviathan4

War crimes need to be confirmed, by independent investigation, by independent experts, who need to be on the ground?

Remember?

You're still trying to excuse the war crimes committed by Israel. I am not arguing against independent investigations and the ICC but the crimes have been committed. It's clear to all of us apart from those who unequivocally support Israel and don't condemn its war crimes, like yourself.

a reply to: Leviathan4

Surely, due process needs to be followed?

Or is it the Court of public opinion you now back?